Superman in the cartoons (especially in the Justice League cartoons) is a really poor sampling of the character. He was really brought down. Him and Martian Manhunter were shown very little respect to their comic counterparts.
Batman V Superman TV Spot 1
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Superman in the cartoons (especially in the Justice League cartoons) is a really poor sampling of the character. He was really brought down. Him and Martian Manhunter were shown very little respect to their comic counterparts.
Strangelove77
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Well, on the bright side(maybe), it introduced Martian Manhunter to people like me. I had never heard of him before the cartoon, but he's definitely one of the best characters on the show and I cant possibly imagine the Justice League without him now.
I had never heard of Hawkgirl either. She's cool too.
Sibersk Esto
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In the silver age Superman was often portrayed as an inventor and scientist. These qualities pop up here and there but they've largely been abandoned.
Bronze-Age and onward he's been portrayed at mostly average intelligence, focusing primarily on journalism (obviously). He's shown as processing information at supercomputer speeds, but obviously he's never dedicated himself to accumulating knowledge like Batman.
I love this one. The one with Patton Oswalt as The Penguin is another favorite.
MDSLKTR
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Trying way too hard dude. Stick to this
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190820444&postcount=37
Nice to know you can't back up your shit post. Instead you just try to imply I like shit shows.
Yeah. Reveals started cool but everything looks bad.
This movie is going to rt 70s at best and possibly be another batman and robin level movie.
WadiumArcadium
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A Rotten Tomatoes score in the 70s would suggest it's a little better than Batman and Robin.
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Lord Virgin
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Got a better one than that:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71074556&postcount=134
Well, nothing wrong with that. If that's his thing; great. But posters like him have been shitting on this movie from the start. Affleck casting, Gadot casting, Luthor casting, the first teaser, the SDCC trailer, the last trailer, the pictures released and whatnot. What Marvel has been doing isn't exactly my thing, so I just stay out of those threads (except Cap because those movies I like) and let people talk about it normally instead of drive-by shitposting.
In defense of Currygan, I think he's usually an equal opportunity hater.
It simply looks flat as fuck, when i heard that line in the first trailer (which instead looked pretty good) i was expecting a pretty epic scene.
This clip was terribly boring in the way it was shot, and the set/lighting didn't really impress me either, though it's a bit too short to properly complain about that.
Saying it looked like a TV show was obviously in jest, but if you consider stuff like Daredevil, it's not like it looks much worse.
And obviously i'm not talking about the movie as a whole.
It's obvious WB is gonna pour however many million dollars in this, i'm talking about the "Do you bleed" clip in the trailer.
The DC/Marvel angle someone brought up made me laugh though, because it's funny how serious this consolewar-style bullshit gets taken.
I'm not a fan of either Marvel nor DC, though i watch superhero movies and enjoy them, from time to time.
As for Torchwood quip, the budget and production values of the show, isn't compareble to stuff like Daredevil, Vikings, Game of Thrones and what have you (same would go for stuff like Arrow, i guess).
Which is why when i mentioned "TV Show" i obviously wasn't thinking of stuff like that.
Hopefully, that is exhaustive enough.
PhantomZone
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It's going to make the new Ghostbusters reboot look like the movie of the century in comparison (and that too will be a dog's breakfast when released!).
The comics always show him as pretty intelligent, but it's just not presented in an "OMG Supes is a GENIUS!!" type way. It's a lot more subtle.
Forming a thundercloud
Analyzing a submarine in seconds
Listening to radio frequencies with his super-hearing
Analyzing Martian Manhunter's skin
Picking up distinct audio signature 2000 feet below ground from outer space.
Rewiring Brainiac's machinery in seconds
Speaking Hindi
Finding Deathstroke by listening to his heartbeat
Scanning Cyborg's machinery in seconds
Doomsday robot that Superman built in the event that he dies.
Superman introducing Batman the advanced machinery he builds in the Fortress.
Stealthy Giant
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LMFAO Currygan got people so steamed they're digging into his posting history.
Schweinehund
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Some incarnations have him as a scientist (All Star Superman predominantly). Generally in team books he's not a genius (few DC heroes are actually geniuses in comparison to Marvel where it seems like a secondary trait), but he can process information much faster than a normal human. I'd consider him a few notches above people in intelligence but not in top 10 lists or anything.
Those remind me of a cool moment in Superman Unchained
which is Superman trying to figure out how to stop a building from falling mid-battle.
Man of Steel's Superman just gets a kick out of hearing the screams.
You can't compare an experienced Superman with expert knowledge of his abilities with a rookie Superman who's never had to deal with anyone even remotely on his level (and thus negating any possible risk of such a situation). I hate those comparisons.
evil solrac v3.0
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People outside of forums are very much looking forward to it. Comic book and video game websites and forums are an echo chamber of one upsmanship to show how "sophisticated" you are by being able to break down a 30 second ad and proving that a movie and all movies forward will be of low quality. It's insanity multiplied. There's no discussion to be had at that point.
Super-intelligence is still listed as one of his powers, but most modern writers, for some reason (lack of imagination?), refuse to show it. About the only writer today who shows Superman using his intelligence is Grant Morrison.
Poodlestrike
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It varies. Sometimes he's as super-smart as he is super-everythingelse, sometimes he's just regular clever, sometimes he's just a big bruiser. 75 years of comics, you're gonna get some variation
Man, are we still doing this?
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Lord Virgin
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He kicked it, car didn't bounce off.
Whatever happened, she thought it looked dumb.
My wife saw it too and thought it was great. Your move.
Mengy
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The Batmobile doesn't actually bounce off of Superman, he kicks it away, it's just very hard to tell that from the way the scene is shot at such a low light level and the wrong angle. It should have been choreographed much more clearly.
Ninja Scooter
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What did your mailman think of it?
The way it's shot and edited, it almost looks like Batman didn't even see Superman standing there until he was right in front of the headlights. Now I'm imagining Bruce is in the batmobile distracted with a massive hoagie or something he's eating while driving, yells "OH SHIT" and makes a mess everywhere when he crashes.
And hence the rivalry is born.
And hence the rivalry is born.
ThatCrazyGuy
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My 1st cousin saw it and thought it was dope.
Joel Was Right
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Still dont see a kick
Is your first cousin perhaps Korean?
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Lord Virgin
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BadAss2961
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Joel Was Right
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Hax.
So he kicks it to his right and it heads right....but in the next shot the car moves by his left, and he turns left to see it crash.
I'll leave a note in my mailbox and ask. Chances are they'll think it's dumb.
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Lord Virgin
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What exactly is dumb about it? Might as well have a conversation about it.
It just looked cheap as the car was bouncing along. Not the fact that the event happened, but maybe the way it was choreographed? Or the effect itself was poorly done? Maybe they should have made it roll off.
Scene was probably flipped for some reason. I've seen it happen in trailers plenty of times.
The whole thing makes Batman look too much like a scrub imo. Less like two titans fighting and more like a guy in a mask who is completely out of his depth.
I doubt Snyder will fail though at making Batman look like a beast in the fight scenes.
The Batmobile is a heavy armored low sitting tank though, why would it roll?
broncobuster
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It was. Same scene is mirrored in a previous trailer. Black levels are darker in these TV spots as well. Who knows how the final product is, or if and why marketing is altered.
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Lord Virgin
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Hmm, okay. See what you mean. I see it as: Batman is already at a high speed, probably tried to brake at the last moment, Superman as strong as he is and with his superspeed, kicking it sideways at the last moment is what caused the car to turn and crash into that gas station or whatever it was. Seems fine to me.
Maybe it will play better for you once you get the full scene on a big screen.
Hopefully. Maybe it wasn't the best clip to pick to show people with little context.
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