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ElBoxyBrown said:
Freddy Vs. Jason was the last time I saw a movie where two iconic figures fought and someone actually won instead of a cop out plot of having them putting aside their differences and working together.

#TeamJason
#GetFuckedFreddy
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Aren't the Aliens vs Predators film newer and pretty sure those have a real winner.

(I'm sure folks would rather forget em)
 
SuperStiltzkin said:
And introduce Wonder Woman and set up that Justice League movie.
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Those are essentially both the same thing, and both naturally come out of "team up to fight Doomsday."

Again, it's not complicated. That's not to say Snyder/Terrio won't still fuck it up somehow. But suggesting "Batman v. Superman" is going to be a plotty mess seems weird, to me.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Those are essentially both the same thing, and both naturally come out of "team up to fight Doomsday."

Again, it's not complicated. That's not to say Snyder/Goyer won't still fuck it up somehow. But suggesting "Batman v. Superman" is going to be a plotty mess seems weird, to me.
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Stop. Mentioning. Goyer. That hack has been long gone and you know it.

It's funny that the mere mention of his name makes me mad lol
 
Bobby Roberts said:
How many plot points you think we're dealing with here?

Just based off the trailers:

Superman doesn't like Batman
Batman doesn't like Superman
Lex Luthor doesn't like either of them, and is setting up their fight via his anti-alien rhetoric
Lex Luthor is also turning Zod into Doomsday
Batman & Superman figure this out and team up to go after Doomsday/Luthor

That's five basic plot points. There are more poseable joints on Superman's action figure than there are on this film's story.
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That's actually really two plots:

-Batman/Superman conflict which includes Clark Kent v. Superman
-Lex Luthor's evil machinations which would include creating Doomsday and the eventual fight.

The only other third plot we don't know much about is how much time is devoted to setting up the JL.
 
KalBalboa said:
... You can have a good amount of subplots and a wide variety of characters in a ~2 hour film. It's been done endless amounts of times, even in comic book films within the last two years.

Bobby is spot on. Come on now.
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I'm waiting for a Superman movie with the structure of Ben-Hur/Forrest Gump. I shit you not. Forrest Gump for covering his life over the decades. Ben-Hur because it had more fantastic stuff like ship battles and chariot races.

Supes is perfect for it. It could be him traveling the DC Universe over the span of 20-30 years (if not his entire 70-80 year history) meeting all sorts of heroes and villains in a couple 2 or 3 hour movies. Entire lives/hero careers are born and dead over the course of the story. The Man of Steel series could still be that with all sorts of spin-offs coming from that one foundation. It won't though. :P Wonder Woman seems to have taken the epic history angle.

Is that a weird dream?
 
The Icon said:
Regardless of that trailer the movie would still play out exactly the same. What you got in the first CC trailer and the 2nd trailer all came from the same movie.
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I know this but the problem is that showing the Doomsday reveal FOLLOWED by the team up reveal kinda undermines the BvS conflict. We all knew they would team up at the end but we didn't need to be shown exactly how or why it happens.

Without much context it almost seems like the first half of the movie is just two superheroes huffing and puffing each other (especially with the few bits of dialogues they have shown between the two) before they come to their senses to fight the real baddie.
 
SuperStiltzkin said:
And introduce Wonder Woman and set up that Justice League movie.

Batman needs no reintroduction. People know Batman, even if he's not the Batman from the past 3 batman movies that people have seen. But I do want a good set up for why they are physically fighting each other than "they don't like each other."
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What do they need to set up the Justice League movie really?

"Maybe, we should recruit."
 
Dahbomb said:
I know this but the problem is that showing the Doomsday reveal FOLLOWED by the team up reveal kinda undermines the BvS conflict. We all knew they would team up at the end but we didn't need to be shown exactly how or why it happens.

Without much context it almost seems like the first half of the movie is just two superheroes huffing and puffing each other (especially with the few bits of dialogues they have shown between the two) before they come to their senses to fight the real baddie.
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To be fair we still don't know how it's resolved. I don't think Doomsday interrupts their fight, I'm guessing they figure out Lex has been manipulating them and make plans to go after him.

Anyway I wasn't aware so many people watch these team movies for twists. I'm excited to see the Batman and Superman fight itself, I'm sure Doomsday fight will be insane as well. When's the last time a team movie had a crazy showdown against one opponent? Ultron & Loki were jobbers, Ronan was a joke. If I had to take a guess, I'm going to say it's going to be a hell of a finale.
 
Schweinehund said:
To be fair we still don't know how it's resolved. I don't think Doomsday interrupts their fight, I'm guessing they figure out Lex has been manipulating them and make plans to go after him.

Anyway I wasn't aware so many people watch these team movies for twists. I'm excited to see the Batman and Superman fight itself, I'm sure Doomsday fight will be insane as well. When's the last time a team movie had a crazy showdown against one opponent? Ultron & Loki were a jobber, Ronan was a joke. If I had to take a guess, I'm going to say it's going to be a hell of a finale.
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Every Marvel movie has had a tepid final boss showdown that is for sure.

That's at least one thing Man of Steel did right.
 
Avengers had the superheroes fighting a bunch of fodder enemies. Loki got smacked around like a rag doll...

I give you the Incredible Hulk fight though. Somehow I always seem to forget the movie.
 
I think the problem here is that the fight isn't going to be the final climax of the movie, and that we won't have a clear *outcome to which ideology will win out. And we already know both of these before the movie is released.

*by outcome i dont mean a death
 
Batman doesn't need it. Superman will win the fight, but will #MakeBatmanLookStrong.

Batman will win in the sense that he'll equally trade respect with a god.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
How many plot points you think we're dealing with here?

Just based off the trailers:

Superman doesn't like Batman
Batman doesn't like Superman
Lex Luthor doesn't like either of them, and is setting up their fight via his anti-alien rhetoric
Lex Luthor is also turning Zod into Doomsday
Batman & Superman figure this out and team up to go after Doomsday/Luthor

That's five basic plot points. There are more poseable joints on Superman's action figure than there are on this film's story.
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Bobby preachin' truth as usual.
 
BadAss2961 said:
I thought Jason won that? He's the one standing with Freddy's head at the end.
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Beating Marvel to the punch with this is a smart move. Or at least whoever gets the fan argument machine in full swing first.
 
I've read up some about the comic Irredeemable and the more I read about it, the more Batflecks fears make even more sense. I have to get around to reading it some time.
 
Sweet TV spot.

We'll see how it turns out. I just do not have a lot of faith in this after being spoon-fed the story in that last trailer but... it could be cool. We'll see.
 
TV Spot #4 has that cold, angry logical Batman I've been wanting to see in live action for my entire life.

Whether or not this movie is good, I think Battfleck is going to be the best Batman.
 
In addition to being a coward (saying 'You will' after supes flies away, and not directly to his face), this batman is also a fucking hypocrite.
He's ready to destroy Superman, but somehow the Joker is still alive and kicking. This movie just makes it looks as though Batman is just jealous of Superman's powers.
 
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