FINAL FANTASY XV - Niflheim Base Battle Footage

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I'd be surprised if COD doesn't have a LE and it's a damn sight more popular than FF sales wise. Though first console FF in a while it could maybe swing a limited NA run.
 
I'd be surprised if COD doesn't have a LE and it's a damn sight more popular than FF sales wise. Though first console FF in a while it could maybe swing a limited NA run.

Yeah I mean it very well could happen. I just don't see it happen IMO but I don't have anything to really base it on other than sales numbers from the franchises named.

I could see a TLG console if that comes out this year. Maybe a Horizon one?
 
These are two of the Techniques I just know I'm gonna spam over and over because of how awesome they look:

Ghosting:
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And this fire grenade/Pokeball thing:

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You sure? If you slow it down it looks like he's squeezing it and the "magic" flows throw his body(hence the blue particles when he hand waves) and he unleashes it thru his own means.

Looks like he does throw something. A small orb thing that detonates near Prompto. I could be totally wrong though, but that's what I see.
 
You sure? If you slow it down it looks like he's squeezing it and the "magic" flows throw his body(hence the blue particles when he hand waves) and he unleashes it thru his own means.

Pretty sure this is correct. Slow motion looks at the Niflheim base footage show Noctis crushing the item and then casting more conventionally. He's not throwing the magic orb, he's directing the magic.

Not fond of this system, though, as for the reasons stated above he might as well just be throwing a grenade since the magic comes from an item. It's just so uncool. Like all spells are one use items like bomb arms, rather than power contained within the player character. Even just making the magic expendable charges rather than physical grenades would make it feel a lot better to me.
 
Pretty sure this is correct. Slow motion looks at the Niflheim base footage show Noctis crushing the item and then casting more conventionally. He's not throwing the magic orb, he's directing the magic.

Not fond of this system, though, as for the reasons stated above he might as well just be throwing a grenade since the magic comes from an item. It's just so uncool. Like all spells are one use items like bomb arms, rather than power contained within the player character. Even just making the magic expendable charges rather than physical grenades would make it feel a lot better to me.
Yea I thought I was right. And yea I can understand where you're coming from. Hopefully ring magic makes up for it though.
 
You sure? If you slow it down it looks like he's squeezing it and the "magic" flows throw his body(hence the blue particles when he hand waves) and he unleashes it thru his own means.

Ahh I see, yep my bad the gif doesn't show it but the actual footage does. Indeed it does look like a pokeball.

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Image for reference.

Also when he lights up the mech he uses it again, maybe this is how he uses magic? Via some form of elemancy through objects much like his other weapons?

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Ahh I see, yep my bad the gif doesn't show it but the actual footage does. Indeed it does look like a pokeball.

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Image for reference.

Also when he lights up the mech he uses it again, maybe this is how he uses magic? Via some form of elemancy through objects much like his other weapons?

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Yup they stated magic exists for normal people in the form of these items. Supposed to be crafted from the earths energy or something like that. What we see here is basically noct absorbing that energy,mana or whatever they are calling it into his body, then unleashing it.

Then theres ring magic which we haven't been told much about yet.
 
Ahh I see, yep my bad the gif doesn't show it but the actual footage does. Indeed it does look like a pokeball.

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Image for reference.

Also when he lights up the mech he uses it again, maybe this is how he uses magic? Via some form of elemancy through objects much like his other weapons?

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Yeah ;_;

Lol at Colin always being pessimistic XD

I get where he is coming from but at least he does realize that he is know in the minority when it come to how he wants FF. I should say the less accepting minority of the changes. We all love turn based for the most part but I feel like a lot of people have very different ideas of what an FF actual is and for him it is turn based for the most part it seems.

Also I have to call out Tim for saying he hasn't been hyped for this in 6 years? Did he not watch the E3 2013 trailer? Like c'mon man :lol

But I am quite interested where FF goes from here.
 
Maybe it's that what made previous FF so great was its old school gameplay and graphics, a bit of a mystical feeling when you play, now its guys driving cars and using high tech technology in modern times, doesn't resonant the same feeling.
 
Maybe it's that what made previous FF so great was its old school gameplay and graphics, a bit of a mystical feeling when you play, now its guys driving cars and using high tech technology in modern times, doesn't resonant the same feeling.

You're aware that modern times, high tech, cars and etc aren't thing new to the series, right?
 
Maybe it's that what made previous FF so great was its old school gameplay and graphics, a bit of a mystical feeling when you play, now its guys driving cars and using high tech technology in modern times, doesn't resonant the same feeling.

Gameplay is the only thing you have a point, but the world and characters are as FF any of the other ones.
 
I think they would have been better off not calling this FF. I don't see the magic that was in FF7-FF13.

Awesome post, reminds me very much of 1996-1997 when some hardcore FF fans were looking at FF7 previews and saying "They're calling this FF? I don't see the magic that was in FF1-FF6." The fanbase had its fair share of narrow-minded purists even back then! Dat nostalgia.
 
Yeah but all of those are HUGE franchises. Yes FF is a massive franchise but in terms of sales those games really outsell them and Batman and SW at least aren't solely gaming IPs. CoD always sells a fuck ton and Destiny had a massive original launch and is still a huge game.

You could be right. But a new mainline FF is still a big deal. So i'm looking at this from the perspective that Sony really hasn't had the co-marketing for any big RPG's this gen. The Witcher 3, Fallout, and DAI have all been marketed by MS. This will be the first big RPG that Sony will presumably have a shot at. And Sony's LE's really do seem to be made in limited quantities. It seems like they're all gone a week or so after they release. So it's not like they'd have any issues selling them.

At this point I see FFXV, GT Sport, and Horizon as the games most likely to get a US LE. And if all three got one it means they'd be equal to how many Sony made last year.

I'd be surprised if COD doesn't have a LE and it's a damn sight more popular than FF sales wise. Though first console FF in a while it could maybe swing a limited NA run.

I don't see them doing a CoD LE every year unless it's something that Activision put in as a requirement in the contract. Last year made sense as it was Sony trying to link the brand to it. I think they'll still do a basic bundle, similarly to the TLoU:R or Uncharted Collection, where it's just the basic console with a copy of the game. But i'd be sorta surprised if they do another LE. Well, unless it's some sort of Modern Warfare reboot since this is going to be IW's game. That'd be a different story. Ghosts 2? Nah. :P
 
Maybe it's that what made previous FF so great was its old school gameplay and graphics, a bit of a mystical feeling when you play, now its guys driving cars and using high tech technology in modern times, doesn't resonant the same feeling.

In FFVII, which is unquestionably the most famous FF, Cloud drives a motorcycle and the team drives a pickup truck.
 
I feel like change is what makes Final Fantasy what it is.

Totally. Each game tries to be its own thing, from gameplay to art design. Only the first five games were very similar, and that was only in the art design.

In FFVII, which is unquestionably the most famous FF, Cloud drives a motorcycle and the team drives a pickup truck.

Also, one of the main characters has a gun for an arm and might as well be Fake Ice Cube.
 
I think they would have been better off not calling this FF. I don't see the magic that was in FF7-FF13.

Yeah, it only has chocobos, airships, summons, magic, moogles, classic monsters, recurring music, magitek armor, crystals, Cid and various other things from the franchise. It bears no resemblance at all to the franchise.

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You could be right. But a new mainline FF is still a big deal. So i'm looking at this from the perspective that Sony really hasn't had the co-marketing for any big RPG's this gen. The Witcher 3, Fallout, and DAI have all been marketed by MS. This will be the first big RPG that Sony will presumably have a shot at. And Sony's LE's really do seem to be made in limited quantities. It seems like they're all gone a week or so after they release. So it's not like they'd have any issues selling them.

At this point I see FFXV, GT Sport, and Horizon as the games most likely to get a US LE. And if all three got one it means they'd be equal to how many Sony made last year.

It is still a big deal, obviously quite agree but I think they are going to go for more exclusive tie ins. I think it would be cool if we get a console but I just don't see it happening. I agree that GT for sure could get one but I think TLG will get one over FF and I think that comes out this year is my main reason. Now I don't have much to base it on but now I am backtracking here, SE wants this game to resonate and be bigger than JRPG fans and RPG fans in general, part of the reason why Greg Miller is part of the Uncovered event so we very well could see a partnership!
 
I feel like change is what makes Final Fantasy what it is.

Pretty much. I didn't understand when Colin from Kinda Funny Games was arguing that every FF after FFIX was "not Final Fantasy". IX was a huge departure from VIII. VII was a huge departure from VI as VI was from V. I guess you could say I-IV were similar but I feel those were only similar because of the technology at that time limited Square.

Here's SE's definition of what makes a FF game:
http://kotaku.com/5963157/what-square-enix-says-makes-a-final-fantasy

1. magic
2. summoning
3. gorgeous beauty
4. refinement
5. change and challenge

...which essentially means FF is whatever Square deems FF to be.
 
Pretty much. I didn't understand when Colin from Kinda Funny Games was arguing that every FF after FFIX was "not Final Fantasy". IX was a huge departure from VIII. VII was a huge departure from VI as VI was from V. I guess you could say I-IV were similar but I feel those were only similar because of the technology at that time limited Square.

Here's SE's definition of what makes a FF game:
http://kotaku.com/5963157/what-square-enix-says-makes-a-final-fantasy

1. magic
2. summoning
3. gorgeous beauty
4. refinement
5. change and challenge

...which essentially means FF is whatever Square deems FF to be.

I guess Final Fantasy isn't a Final Fantasy if summoning falls under the criteria.
 
Yeah, it only has chocobos, airships, summons, magic, moogles, classic monsters, recurring music, magitek armor, crystals, Cid and various other things from the franchise. It bears no resemblance at all to the franchise.

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Indeed.

Many of the trappings of this game seem like direct callbacks to FF8 I'd say, another fantasy that was, in some ways, based on reality.

Edit, and even pre-7, VI was full of tech, as were parts of IV.
 
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