Greenberg: Quantum Break is not coming to Steam
- Thread starter chadskin
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It's not a store issue.
They can have their 30% for all I care.
It's about this:
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Not to mention name mangling install directories and requiring registry editing just to work with the files in those directories.
Honestly, someone aught to make a thread enumerating and expanding upon all the issues so people can just link to it in these sort of threads. It's going to come up and up again.
Samurai G0SU
Member
Not surprised
Icedburden
Member
Fair enough. And I believe, as I hope you do, it will happen.
We just need to be patient. Let's not burn down the house before it's built.
Edit: I didn't realize SLI didn't work, and yeah, that's pretty dumb.
8-Bit Sunset
Banned
Oh Christ not this Windows Store bullshit all over again.
Did they learn nothing last time around?
Everyone and his cat knows that Steam is the PC gamer's motherhub and they want to disrupt and fragment gamer's thinking they can have a slice of the pie?
I don't want multiple accounts, I like my personal information spread out as little as possible, all neat and tidy.
And when the Win10 store goes down in a few years (it will) we have to deal with all of the migration to Steam nonsense again!
Not gonna work!
*Hrrrumph*
Erm, wasn't his concern that Windows would only run signed software and apps like what happened with Windows 8 RT? That's not at all the case with Windows 10.
This is a content publisher putting their content on their own store.
If we're going to talk about this how about we don't twist it into something it's not?
Fuz
Banned
Yeah, not gonna install W10 for this. I've got no problems with windows store, but installing an OS I don't trust? Not gonna happen.
And it's actually a good thing, I have so damn many games in my backlog that one less is actually convenient for me
And it's actually a good thing, I have so damn many games in my backlog that one less is actually convenient for me
You didn't mention steam. My man.
LostDonkey
Member
I really am having a hard time understanding the complaints.
Is Half life or Dota on Origin?
Is Battlefield or Fifa on Uplay?
Is Half life or Dota on Origin?
Is Battlefield or Fifa on Uplay?
flaxknuckles
Member
It would help things if Microsoft would actually indicate if they ever plan on adding these features.
Lots of people can't read or understand it durante and by that i mean they do now know why it is all limited and bad very very bad.
You're missing the part where PC gamers don't really trust Microsoft after GFWL. If this was a genuine effort where they'd taken the time to assess how gamers felt about digital distribution platforms and what they expect out of the functionality of a PC game, they wouldn't be doing this.
It's a blunt effort by going "If you want it you have to play by our rules" where historically doing that has failed miserably for Microsoft. Who cares if it's their game? They're killing their efforts on PC in the womb by thinking they can just dictate to the market.
Actually, that is exactly what "Universal Apps" are.
For now, it's still possible to run Win32 programs on Windows, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them referred to as "legacy" sooner or later.
Of course he was right to be careful.
LostDonkey
Member
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
You should read the thread. Windows 10 apps are heavily restricted compared to normal apps.
Look at the posts above you, or continue to be willfully ignorant
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
yes
...and don't forget ea publishes valve games physically
http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_CA/pd/productID.332027500/Battlefield-4-Premium-Edition
http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_CA/pd/productID.332031700/FIFA-16
This is ridiculous. You can't dismiss the points people are already talking about as their reason for not wanting a product or to get involved with the ecosystems so incredulously, and claim that MS will reconsider. We have seen the history of MS with GFWL, and we are seeing yet again that they are far behind the expectations of what PC gamers not only want, but expect.
PC gamers looking for features they have had for decades without the restrictions Universal apps provide, should vote with their wallets and not support those games till things change, not the other way around.
yeah keep being ignorant and naive.
Kurt Russell
Member
How is that not the point? Mind explaining what you mean with that? Because it IS the point.
FarFromAnyGame
Banned
Sorry. Not gonna buy it. I have SLI.
Feel_The_Pain
Member
The problem here is,being tied to the windows store, if the game has performance issues, Durante can't fix it.
Am I right?
Am I right?
But Windows 10 isn't ONLY running signed software and apps like Windows RT did. If you don't want any part of the UWA world you can still use Windows 10 for everything else you want to do just like you always could.
Keep spreading that FUD Durante....
GHG
Member
I'm sorry but if they genuinely cared about PC gamers then they would make sure those things are up and running from day 1. The fact that they weren't just shows how out of touch they are with PC gamers.
If you're ok with those things being absent/blocked then more power to you but I guess but I wouldn't put up with it.
LostDonkey
Member
But don't they still launch through the Origin client?
If windows 8 didn't completely blow up in MS's face we would be halfway there. QB isn't anywhere near that scale obviously, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't continue to complain about efforts in that direction.
QB will only be available as UWA, that's why people are complaining.
"I dont understand the complaints!"
*posts list of complaints, mostly technical limitations and issues*
"That is not the point"
pls
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
I've yet to see anyone prove his points here incorrect
don't move the goal posts. ea games ARE sold on uplay, and ea distributes valve titles physically.
Right. FUD.
With Tomb Raider on the WIndows store, many gamers got their first taste of Universal Apps and the new face of the Windows platform, and I think the results speak for themselves.
RealityCheque
Banned
Add actual full-screen, full graphics options and don't bury the .exe behind endless hidden folders (so I can add it as a steam shortcut) and then I'll consider it.
As it's stands, steam, origin, uplay and GOG are streets ahead of the win 10 store.
As it's stands, steam, origin, uplay and GOG are streets ahead of the win 10 store.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I understand where you're coming from. But it should surprise no one that they're locking their games down to their store.
Maybe you could draw attention to it with an article in PC Gamer? You have the ability to bring attention to this.
My favorite post of the thread so far.
Digital store begging too. "Retail store begging" would actually make sense in cases in which a game is only available at a store that isn't in someone's area.
Edit: Wanting more customization options makes sense though. I didn't put that into consideration (mainly since I'm not a PC gamer).
Free Roaming Chicken
Neo Member
I run SLI so that alone and not even taking into account all the other restrictions makes it a deal-breaker for me.
roadrunn3r
Member
Ofc it's not, it's about pc gamers being entitled and whatnot.
"Look gamers Microsoft is taking away yours rights!"
Win32 isn't going anywhere...suggesting it is going anywhere is FUD pure and simple
Haunted
Member
READ
Any type of executable-level modification or injection, as well as changes to data files in some cases.
So, say goodbye to
Performance analysis overlays.
Graphics injectors.
Integration of useful external applications like Mumble.
Community fixes or feature extensions.
Freesync.
In-depth modding.
Support for popular peripherals like the Steam controller. (!)
Some GPU features such as SLI or adapter switching.
Actual exclusive full screen mode.
Yes it is. You need to read the thread, again if already read it.
I can understand the frustrations Durante and others have posted here, valid and should be expressed to get the point across. But I wonder if such things were amended and implemented in future iterations of the Store, would these criticisms hold?
Personally if the game works when I double click, sorted. I'm no power user unfortunately, if it works I'm happy along with all the functionality the Xbox system brings with it. But MS should cater to this need, they need to win hearts and minds if they want to gain momentum. I say bring on the negatives, see what they do under the new leadership.
Personally if the game works when I double click, sorted. I'm no power user unfortunately, if it works I'm happy along with all the functionality the Xbox system brings with it. But MS should cater to this need, they need to win hearts and minds if they want to gain momentum. I say bring on the negatives, see what they do under the new leadership.
Kurt Russell
Member
The amount of people that post in this thread without reading the actual complaints is amazing.
I highly doubt PC gamers would be up in arms if it was on steam.
That's not the same as what Gabe was afraid of with Windows RT.
We're talking about a content publisher's game/app accessible only through their store. You can still use Windows 10 just like you could Windows 8 or 7.