Hillary is going to take Trump's soul imho.
The South Carolina Primary & Nevada Caucuses |Feb 20, 23, 27| Continuing The Calm
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Hillary is going to take Trump's soul imho.
SenjutsuSage
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Hillary supporters voting without registering.. What in the world.
"They will register after" HRC supporters caucusing w/o registering. #NVDemsCaucus @BernieSanders @NationalNursesU https://t.co/5DZT8A3dzp
"They will register after" HRC supporters caucusing w/o registering. #NVDemsCaucus @BernieSanders @NationalNursesU https://t.co/5DZT8A3dzp
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I also think he probably would have been more electable, though. Hillary's unfavorables are quite high with non-Democrats, and she's only a strong candidate by virtue of the fact that the Republicans aren't smart enough to nominate Kasich.
After the last Benghazi hearing, I am not worried at all about Hillary at a debate. All she has to do is not lose her cool and keep calling Trump on his bullshit.
Michael F. Assbender
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I wish I were as confident as you on this, but things are different this time around. Sanders supporters don't just dislike Clinton, they actively hate her. While the worst thing most Clinton supporters say about Sanders is that he's unelectable or joke about his age, Sanders supporters call Clinton a cheater, liar, criminal, flip-flopper...basically every Republican talking point about her from the last decade. They're literally working as an additional arm of the Republican Party.
It's tough to see Sanders supporters turning so hard against the probable Democratic Presidential nominee. The cynic in me wants to say it's what you should expect from people who support a man (Sanders) who also turned against the Democratic Presidential candidate in 2012. Hopefully I'm wrong and these people swallow their pride and fall in line. Because you can be damn sure Republicans will be doing that no matter who their nominee is.
The future of the Supreme Court and the progress we've fought for all these years is literally at stake here. Don't fuck it up, kids.
Yoda
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I'm watching the same stream and they did not say either of the last two things you listed.
If the Bernie Subreddit deletes threads on this because they deem it blergh you shouldn't even start to post it here. I think it has something to do with the long queues.
BoboBrazil
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This is really troubling considering Republican turnout is at all time highs. This isn't a good sign going forward.
And Biden has been a career politician for over 40 years. How is that not an establishment figure?
As Obama's vice president, he would be as much if not more of a status quo president than Hillary.
Manmademan
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this is consistent with what we've seen in prior states though. Sanders isn't Obama.
And I said that all of this will be forgotten come the general. Not that it was okay.
I think she will lay in the cut and let trump go full nut job but she will stay on message. And she will will ready if Trump get too froggy
Yoda
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Err, that can't be normal no? Is there an article about this?
RPGCrazied
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How much longer until we know what is going on the other side? That is what scares me the most.
I can get behind Sanders or Clinton, but none of the GOP nuts.
I can get behind Sanders or Clinton, but none of the GOP nuts.
It's too bad Hillary isn't either.
Michael F. Assbender
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Sanders has been in Congress for 30 years. That's not establishment?
Totally legit source.
This is the shit I'm talking about.
Oh yeah they are. Cenk Uygur is naturally like that I believe and it could be why his show on MSNBC did not last long at all. He's even more so today.
SenjutsuSage
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Sorry, I don't take marching orders from a subreddit. I saw it on Twitter, thought it was important to highlight if there's any truth to it. That's wrong if that's what really happened. It's as simple as that.
Manmademan
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I think she'll be ok. But its clear from the republican debates that typical debate strategy simply does not work on that guy or his supporters, she'll have to take a different approach.
Not worried about Hillary vs Trump at all. If I had to be honest, I was a bit worried about Sanders vs Trump. Hillary is used to the kind of crap Trump will be pulling. I just think with her experience she is better suited to take on Trump one on one. Not to say that Bernie couldn't, just I like Hillary more.
His audience at the moment is entirely composed of the Republican nutso base, that's been heavily groomed with fox news propaganda over the years though. He'll need more than that for the general, and I still have a little confidence that the electorate will look at what he says instead of eating it up.
Don't talk about your abuela like that!
You're asking if a socialist is establishment?
This is to be expected after a democratic president is leaving office
Just a series of 'Please proceed governor' moments.
Well I heard it dude. They are being completely gross the way they talk about her right now.
Unless they're being actively turned away by repressive voter ID laws, then a voter who doesn't vote is entirely at fault.
A Human Becoming
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As an independent from Vermont. He's not the former spouse of a president, a senator from a major party, and secretary of state. He's not part of the club.
Michael F. Assbender
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No because this is how "Scalia was smothered by someone using a pillow" bullshit conspiracies get started. It's just some dude saying some shit. Do we really want to trawl Twitter's bowels for our "reports"?
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Her outfits are fly as hell.
SolarPowered
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I just want to see more states that do votes already and not just because Bernie won New Hampshire with votes. It just seems like more of a democratic process than the caucus system.
It's like pop-gaf for poli-gaf. What a world we live in.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I would assume it's because, unlike in 2008, there aren't three credible and well-organized candidates each with their own pool of supporters jockeying to nominate them. There's Hillary, who's getting out the Dem faithfuls, and Bernie, who's getting the young and the independents but doesn't seem to have a super-strong ground game. The Republicans have 6 "big name" nominees, all of whom have sold some kind of message about how they have a credible chance to their supporters, thus enthusing them to get out and vote. Once the actual election rolls around, and Rubio or Trump are talking about building border walls and cutting welfare, the Dems will be scared enough to turn out, especially if Hillary uses the same GOTV shit that Obama used back in '08 (and why wouldn't she?).
Bernie is a social democrat, and it honestly depends on what you call establishment.
You will see a camel go through the eye of needle before a trump supporter flips.
captjohnboyd
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Okay I'm about to head into work so I didn't have time to do a thorough read through of this thread but Sanders didn't really lose by much right? Does that really signify the "end" in a state that he trailed by as much as 40 points several months ago? Serious question.
As much as I adore the idea of him being president and would gladly have voted for him I always saw a progressive such as himself as a hard road that America just isn't quite ready for. I think they're getting there but it's just a tiny bit too early. That said he's still in the running technically and I've never heard of Nevada being some bellwether for the rest of the country so I'm just curious why everyone is calling it right now for Hillary when I thought it would at least take another couple weeks
As much as I adore the idea of him being president and would gladly have voted for him I always saw a progressive such as himself as a hard road that America just isn't quite ready for. I think they're getting there but it's just a tiny bit too early. That said he's still in the running technically and I've never heard of Nevada being some bellwether for the rest of the country so I'm just curious why everyone is calling it right now for Hillary when I thought it would at least take another couple weeks
SenjutsuSage
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If you aren't at least 55, invest in some glasses immediately
I kid, she does look nice for her age, though.
Michael F. Assbender
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It's still establishment. Matters of degree are for people who believe semantic arguments are worthwhile. I'm not one of them.
Edit: Also, I'd argue her time in the "establishment" have helped her not look outclassed when debates turn away from discussions about Wall Street.
massivekettle
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This isn't Canadian politics. Besides, I've always said I supported Harper due to fiscal reasons, not social ones.
I agree, but I meant more in the sense that she is thoroughly unlikeable and untrustworthy.
Poll by Quinnipiac found that only 30% of Americans deem her trustworthy. She doesn't do well at all with Independents.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-...y-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2324
Baron Aloha
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To be fair, they showed a similar thing on CNN - I don't know if it was the same location but they decided to get the process started and have people register after because people had to go to work and couldn't wait for everyone to register. This was so the people who registered already could vote and leave asap. Some of the locations were seemingly unprepared.
Starphoenix
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She's had a history of integrity issues. Granted, how that stacks up compared to other candidates I'm not sure, but between her history and what I anecdotally know of her through former members of active duty who have spent time around her, there is not a chance I'd cast a ballot for her. But I also feel the same way about Trump. This is a difficult election because I don't feel I can support either of the presumptive candidates both party will likely put forth.
baxter2231
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I dont get this, whenever the low turnout gets brought up people bring up Bernie not being as exciting as obama. Well that maybe true but he does have excitement. No one thinks about the low turnout for the lack of excitement for Hillary, let not forget that. The turnout is low bc no one cares about Hillary OR the fact that the dnc tries to hand her the nomination so why bother voting in the primary.
Damn the dude on Young Turks is salty as fuck. Sucking his teeth and shit.
Nothing better then watching someone hang themselves with their own rope.
makingmusic476
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Got a link to that story? This has been a similar concern of mine, as much of a Bernie supporter I am, and I have some friends I'd like to share it with.
It wasn't a blow out -- he only lost by 5 percentage points -- but his delegate total is now short of what he needs to be on track for the nomination. Hillary is polling much stronger than him in SC and most of the Super Tuesday primaries, and picking up 10 big wins over him in that five-day stretch will be a huge blow to his momentum.
It's not over, but Bernie needed a win in Nevada, not a modest loss.
So, not in the sense of "she has skeletons in the closet" at all then. :lol
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