Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen

buying tvs down under is quite different to whats been on offer overseas, how ever i have been eying off the oleds for quite a wili we only just got the flat 2015 models now with some refreshed ? 2016 models coming later in the year i think , with the pricing the way it is will probbly be a wili before i grab one as they currently sit at over 4k for the new models the premuim models are out of my budget, at this point trying to work out when we might see some sets with less than 33 MS using OS3 ( thats a given) and with alot of the uniformity problems sorted , if those premium models replace them it will take some time for the other models to drop off like middle of next year at the earliest......
 
I'm asking this for a friend of mine. He saw the Sony W829B TV at a friend's place, the 50 inch version and he loves it. He's a big Sony guy for pretty much everything, so he's definitely going for a Sony TV. What he liked most about the W829B is the picture quality and he said it's all thanks to its X-reality pro engine thingy.

The thing is, this TV is not for sale anymore. What Sony TV's are pretty much similar to that (more recent, and affordable) in terms of picture quality?
 
Reviewed OLED burn in article

Left a blu-Ray menu up for 20 hours on an LG55EG9100.

Here I am just waiting around for LG to release pricing on the rest of their line and an article comes up that's perfect for my needs. I'd be using this as a computer monitor too, so burn in and image retention have been a bit scary.
 
20 hours? That's brutal lol. You have to intentionally try to hurt these displays if you want to have any serious issues.
 
Jigolo said:
20 hours? That's brutal lol. You have to intentionally try to hurt these displays if you want to have any serious issues.
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They have a voltage compensation cycle that can be run to clear up uniformity issues and probably deals with image retention as well.

If you’ve read our review of the Panasonic CZ950/CZ952 OLED, you’ll remember that we combed through LG Display’s OLED patents to learn more about the performance of these still-mysterious screens, and learned that for all their other strengths, producing uniform luminance across a high-res OLED panel is no easy feat: the panels must employ a voltage offsetting process in order to produce a uniform image. On the LG G6, users can choose to run a panel measurement process, which takes over an hour (and is therefore best run overnight while the user is asleep – and indeed, the menu allows for this convenience) and measures the current flowing through pixels at various locations across the panel surface. This uniformity correction process isn’t entirely new – LG’s previous OLEDs run it in standby after accumulated usage of more than three hours, but the 2016 models mark the first time that LG has acknowledged its presence by putting it in the user menu, and as far as we understand, it’s also the first time the panel has been allowed this length of time to better correct uniformity issues.

We’re very glad that LG has made this process more accessible, and this, coupled with the improving yields and manufacturing processes, surely accounts for why the uniformity has improved to the extent that it has.
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LG G6 First Impressions

G6 stock was supposed to start going out this week but that has been pushed to next week now. The E6 is scheduled for late March according to Value Electronics.
 
Kelegacy said:
...picture quality is out of this world. I don't think I could ever go back to LCD. It really does feel like a game changer.
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It really is. It's on it's own level for viewing. I'm in the same boat, except there are no reasonable OLED monitors out there and had to get a ASUS VG248 today because my old trusty monitor kicked it today and needed another asap. Dell is out of their minds. LG is focused on super small and large OLEDs right now, wish they'd turn their focus to some monitor action.
 
So I am content with my TV set for movie viewing but I am ready to move my gaming setup to a monitor.

1) I don't like taking up the main TV when people want to watch TV.

2) I don't have a particularly good TV with a gaming mode.

I am thinking 27" max for a monitor. Does gtg matter anymore for response time on modern displays? ie: will I see 1ms vs 8ms? I am going mostly PS4 exclusive as my GPU is starting to date itself and I am not going to upgrade for new releases. This means 60hz is probably enough. I guess I am also thinking 1080p will be enough considering modern consoles are here for awhile. Also, I am used to a 21.5" IPS as my computer setup and I was picky at the time because I liked the rich colors. Is there such thing as gaming IPS?

I know the "pro's" seem bent on TN.

I know about the "EVO Monitor" was a VH236 Asus 23" which was the defacto setup for fighting game tournaments and this was done afaik without help from Asus.

I know EVO switched to BenQ, and MLG also have an official monitor now, MLG's got the RL2755HM. EVO swapped to the RL2460HT. Also MLG was using GL2450HM for fighting games. I am guessing all of that is sponsorship based more than "best".

So what is a person to do?

Things I don't necessarily want or need: 144hz, G-sync, 1440p+.

Things I don't know about: Brand? Model? IPS or TN?
 
CrashPrime said:
So I am content with my TV set for movie viewing but I am ready to move my gaming setup to a monitor.

1) I don't like taking up the main TV when people want to watch TV.

2) I don't have a particularly good TV with a gaming mode.

I am thinking 27" max for a monitor. Does gtg matter anymore for response time on modern displays? ie: will I see 1ms vs 8ms? I am going mostly PS4 exclusive as my GPU is starting to date itself and I am not going to upgrade for new releases. This means 60hz is probably enough. I guess I am also thinking 1080p will be enough considering modern consoles are here for awhile. Also, I am used to a 21.5" IPS as my computer setup and I was picky at the time because I liked the rich colors. Is there such thing as gaming IPS?

I know the "pro's" seem bent on TN.

I know about the "EVO Monitor" was a VH236 Asus 23" which was the defacto setup for fighting game tournaments and this was done afaik without help from Asus.

I know EVO switched to BenQ, and MLG also have an official monitor now, MLG's got the RL2755HM. EVO swapped to the RL2460HT. Also MLG was using GL2450HM for fighting games. I am guessing all of that is sponsorship based more than "best".

So what is a person to do?

Things I don't necessarily want or need: 144hz, G-sync, 1440p+.

Things I don't know about: Brand? Model? IPS or TN?
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Sounds like a BenQ EW2740L is right up your alley.

BenQ and Asus are trustworthy brands. The Asus MX259H and MX279H could also fit your needs. IPS is generally safe for gaming and I prefer the better colors of IPS and VA panels -- you can find IPS panels in high-end G-SYNC monitors now.
 
Depends if you want pretty colors or good response time and input lag. Pretty color, you're going IPS. I'm the opposite of my TV viewing and input lag is a bit of concern for my pc gaming, thus it was a 144hz TN panel.

I echo the BenQ and ASUS recommendation. AOC and Acer make some OK monitors as well. Dell makes pretty but overpriced stuff.
 
Wow, so the MX279H ticks like every box. Anything I will regret not getting over it? Anything going to have a better IPS panel for gaming? displaylag.com has it at like near top of the list.
 
For a few days now I have this weird thing when I try to power on my EC930v/EC9300 with the remote, that nothing happens. I have to press the damn power button on the remote like ten times before it powers on. It used to be instantly......

Anyone else have this too?
 
I'm in the market for a new TV, but can't decide which one.

1080p OLED (55EC930V)

or

4K UHD LED like a Samsung SUHD TV

I'll use it for both movies and gaming.
 
Jigolo said:
20 hours? That's brutal lol. You have to intentionally try to hurt these displays if you want to have any serious issues.
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20 hours isn't really that brutal. Consider the fact that burn in is cumulative. Stick a discovery logo on the screen for the equivalent of 2 hours a day for a year and tell me what happens.
 
TerryLee81 said:
I'm in the market for a new TV, but can't decide which one.

1080p OLED (55EC930V)

or

4K UHD LED like a Samsung SUHD TV

I'll use it for both movies and gaming.
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I will always say no way to 4k if you have the option to get a 1080p OLED.

It's your choice, but it was no debate for me. I have a 4k tv too but the 1080p oled BLOWS it out of the water in picture quality.
 
Is anyone looking into purchasing the new Sony 4K LCDs coming out next month? The X930D/940D series?

Seriously debating on the 940D.

I looked into OLED for awhile, but have decided against it for now. There are too many issues right now with it that I don't like. Higher risk of burn-in, high input lag, issues with judder, soap opera effect and vignetting, just to name a few.

I think OLED is the future, but not where I want it yet.
 
Hobbun said:
Is anyone looking into purchasing the new Sony 4K LCDs coming out next month? The X930D/940D series?

Seriously debating on the 940D.

I looked into OLED for awhile, but have decided against it for now. There are too many issues right now with it that I don't like. Higher risk of burn-in, high input lag, issues with judder, soap opera effect and vignetting, just to name a few.

I think OLED is the future, but not where I want it yet.
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even with issues there is no LED on the market as good as the 4K OLEDs, and input lag seems to have been decreased for 2016 models it seems, judder was fixed in latest update. I would put motion equal to or greater than Samsung panels, though still a bit below Sony

also Burn In is a non factor
 
Dead said:
even with issues there is no LED on the market as good as the 4K OLEDs, and input lag seems to have been decreased for 2016 models it seems

also Burn In is a non factor
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And there are still the issues with judder, soap opera (blurring in trying to alleviate the judder) and vignetting.

I'd have to see more evidence on burn-in not being a factor and numbers on input lag for the 2016 models.

However, in looking into the Sony 930/940 line, it is supposed to be the top end LED television, and without those other issues and much lower input lag.

It may not have as bright a screen or as deep of blacks as an OLED, but I'm not just looking at the best picture here.
 
Vignetting is non existant on my panel, but even considering that, LED Blooming or clouding (which based on early talk, the Sony 930D might be a complete fail in this regard) is a far more egregious issue than the vignetting if it's there.

I dunno. If input lag is your end all be all purchase decision sure, but looking at the big picture there's literally not a single LED that can hold a candle to the EF9500 when it comes to overall picture and performance. And honestly the input lag is more than manageable. Been gaming on it nonstop the past few weeks with no issues.

I just cant imagine spending between $3-5K (what 930/940D will cost) on an LED when OLED is here now. All I would say is wait for the full range of 2016 OLEDs to be released before making a purchase.
 
Dead said:
Vignetting is non existant on my panel, but even considering that, LED Blooming or clouding (which based on early talk, the Sony 930D might be a complete fail in this regard) is a far more egregious issue than the vignetting if it's there.

I dunno. If input lag is your end all be all purchase decision sure, but looking at the big picture there's literally not a single LED that can hold a candle to the EF9500 when it comes to overall picture and performance. And honestly the input lag is more than manageable. Been gaming on it nonstop the past few weeks with no issues.

I just cant imagine spending between $3-5K (what 930/940D will cost) on an LED when OLED is here now. All I would say is wait for the full range of 2016 OLEDs to be released before making a purchase.
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Vignetting has been hit or miss for people, but it is usually there to some extent still. It's been present much more than I have liked.

And I agree, the 930D has not had good reviews, it is due to the Slim Backlight Drive, which is a new technology for the D (930) series. However, I am looking at the 940D, which uses well established FALD.

And blooming/clouding is not as much of an issue than what I've seen with the vignetting of the OLEDs, but that is why I am going to be looking closely with reviews (including users) on their experiences with the 940D.

And no, it isn't just input lag that I am looking at, it is all the factors I have listed why I've decided to wait on OLED. But what is your input lag rated at? At best, I've seen in the high 40s ms for OLED, I am looking at no more than mid 30s and preferably at 30 or a little below.

As I said, I agree with you that OLEDs have the best overall picture (can't say I agree on performance, as performance for me is more than picture) and black levels, but I am looking for more than that right now.

But, I will keep OLED as an option when the 2016s release, and see how much they improve. However, I just don't see all (or the majority) of the issues I've seen with the 2015 models to be resolved.
 
Hobbun said:
Is anyone looking into purchasing the new Sony 4K LCDs coming out next month? The X930D/940D series?

Seriously debating on the 940D.

I looked into OLED for awhile, but have decided against it for now. There are too many issues right now with it that I don't like. Higher risk of burn-in, high input lag, issues with judder, soap opera effect and vignetting, just to name a few.

I think OLED is the future, but not where I want it yet.
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My short list is down to the X940D and OLED E6. With the input lag on the G6 at 34ms I expect the E6 to be the same. If the production issues have been greatly reduced as stated by LG with the new panels then the E6 will be mine. The X940D launching at $8,000 didn't do it any favors with me but if there are still issues with the OLEDs where owners are doing two or three exchanges then it is other option once the price comes off full retail.
 
Hobbun said:
Is anyone looking into purchasing the new Sony 4K LCDs coming out next month? The X930D/940D series?

Seriously debating on the 940D.

I looked into OLED for awhile, but have decided against it for now. There are too many issues right now with it that I don't like. Higher risk of burn-in, high input lag, issues with judder, soap opera effect and vignetting, just to name a few.

I think OLED is the future, but not where I want it yet.
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I'm looking at the 930D as an option since I most likely can't afford a FALD or OLED display. People on AVS seem to be disappointed with the 930D somewhat prematurely, but I think it's only a disappointment compared to the FALD set they were wanting it to be. It could still be competitive with what Samsung, etc. offers for edge-lit sets.
 
MrJames said:
My short list is down to the X940D and OLED E6. With the input lag on the G6 at 34ms I expect the E6 to be the same. If the production issues have been greatly reduced as stated by LG with the new panels then the E6 will be mine. The X940D launching at $8,000 didn't do it any favors with me but if there are still issues with the OLEDs where owners are doing two or three exchanges then it is other option once the price comes off full retail.
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That is one of the reasons why I've been hesitant with the OLED, where people are exchanging it multiple times, nevermind the other issues I already stated above. But I will look at the 2016 models and see if anything has been resolved.

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I'm looking at the 930D as an option since I most likely can't afford a FALD or OLED display. People on AVS seem to be disappointed with the 930D somewhat prematurely, but I think it's only a disappointment compared to the FALD set they were wanting it to be. It could still be competitive with what Samsung, etc. offers for edge-lit sets.
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I don't know, I haven't heard good things about the 930D, besides what has been said on AVS. Here is part of an article I read last month that troubled me a bit on this model:

The X930D’s main picture quality story is its use of a new backlight design dubbed the Slim Backlight Drive. While Sony was reticent about sharing exact details of how this works, what it does, essentially, is use some sort of grid light control system to enable an edge-mounted LED array to deliver much more localized lighting than any edge-based system before.

How many zones?

Sony also wouldn’t talk about how many actual zones of control were possible with the Slim Backlight Drive – or if my zonal analogy even really applies! But one thing I can say for certain is that I’m not at all sure the system works very well.

I watched a lot of different demo content on a number of X930D screens dotted around the Sony CES stand, and on every one of them it was really easy to see – even under the bright CES lights – clear blocks of light around bright parts of predominantly dark pictures.

For instance, with a shot featuring a lit tower block on the left and a brightly lit building running along the bottom with a night sky behind, the night sky appears as a distractingly definite black square with a straight-edged vertical grey stripe appearing around the tower and a straight horizontal black stripe appearing around the low building. It’s pretty hard to become immersed in what you’re watching when you can see such glaringly obvious reminders of the X930D’s backlight machinations.
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Here is the full article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc...cklight-master-drive-4k-hdr-tvs/#4b31615914de
 
Hobbun said:
Vignetting has been hit or miss for people, but it is usually there to some extent still. It's been present much more than I have liked.

And I agree, the 930D has not had good reviews, it is due to the Slim Backlight Drive, which is a new technology for the D (930) series. However, I am looking at the 940D, which uses well established FALD.

And blooming/clouding is not as much of an issue than what I've seen with the vignetting of the OLEDs, but that is why I am going to be looking closely with reviews (including users) on their experiences with the 940D.

And no, it isn't just input lag that I am looking at, it is all the factors I have listed why I've decided to wait on OLED. But what is your input lag rated at? At best, I've seen in the high 40s ms for OLED, I am looking at no more than mid 30s and preferably at 30 or a little below.

As I said, I agree with you that OLEDs have the best overall picture (can't say I agree on performance, as performance for me is more than picture) and black levels, but I am looking for more than that right now.

But, I will keep OLED as an option when the 2016s release, and see how much they improve. However, I just don't see all (or the majority) of the issues I've seen with the 2015 models to be resolved.
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The new g6 has 33ms input lag. They stated less vignetting (an issue my EF9500 doesn't have). Judder is gone in 24p/60i since firmware update .75. OLED isn't going to come close to the brightness of LED, just look at the requirements for LED vs OLED. It's the contrast that doesn't need the brightness that an LED needs.

The G6 sounds like a minor upgrade to the EF9500 where it addresses the input lag issue, and many stated the EF9500 was the best picture yet, so, I assume the G6 is going to be the best again.
 
Kelegacy said:
I will always say no way to 4k if you have the option to get a 1080p OLED.

It's your choice, but it was no debate for me. I have a 4k tv too but the 1080p oled BLOWS it out of the water in picture quality.
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What makes me hesitate is that the ec930v/9300 doesn't get as good reviews as the ef9500 for example. Which costs double, which I can't afford.
 
J-Rzez said:
The new g6 has 33ms input lag. They stated less vignetting (an issue my EF9500 doesn't have). Judder is gone in 24p/60i since firmware update .75. OLED isn't going to come close to the brightness of LED, just look at the requirements for LED vs OLED. It's the contrast that doesn't need the brightness that an LED needs.

The G6 sounds like a minor upgrade to the EF9500 where it addresses the input lag issue, and many stated the EF9500 was the best picture yet, so, I assume the G6 is going to be the best again.
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Ok, I will keep the G6 in mind. But there are already input lag numbers for the TV? It’s not supposed to be out until middle of the year, correct?

That’s good to hear the vignetting isn’t a problem now, but I still want to see user remarks (first time buyers for the TV) and see what they are experiencing. Everyone thought it was fixed from the EG9600, then it was popping up with the EF9500, as well.
 
Jigolo said:
G6 is out next week
E6 shortly after

B6/C6 Summer
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Next week? That’s sooner than I anticipated. Wasn’t the EF9500 only released around October of last year?

But that’s good. I can start monitoring the first users and their experiences with the TV.
 
TerryLee81 said:
EC9300 for $1700 or EG9100 for $1950?
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All the reviews I have read suggested getting the 9300 if you can get it a few hundred cheaper. Both are almost the same performance-wise. They are practically perfect tvs image-wise, so you get that with both models.

I think you said you are outside the US, as I have seen the 9100 go for $1400 or less periodically which is a steal IMO. The 9100's retail is still $2000, and since I am a deal-hunter I hate paying MSRP. :) If I was spending $2000 I may hold out for the 4k model. I saw those going for $2300 on special sale in this very thread over the weekend.
 
Kelegacy said:
All the reviews I have read suggested getting the 9300 if you can get it a few hundred cheaper. Both are almost the same performance-wise. They are practically perfect tvs image-wise, so you get that with both models.

I think you said you are outside the US, as I have seen the 9100 go for $1400 or less periodically which is a steal IMO. The 9100's retail is still $2000, and since I am a deal-hunter I hate paying MSRP. :) If I was spending $2000 I may hold out for the 4k model. I saw those going for $2300 on special sale in this very thread over the weekend.
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Ordered the 9100. The 4k are all $3k+ here outside of the US.

Can't wait!
 
TerryLee81 said:
Ordered the 9100. The 4k are all $3k+ here outside of the US.

Can't wait!
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You'll have to let us know how you like it when it shows up. I can't wait for your impressions, especially if you are coming from LED/LCD.

Buy some diapers, you are going to poop.
 
Hobbun said:
That is one of the reasons why I've been hesitant with the OLED, where people are exchanging it multiple times, nevermind the other issues I already stated above.
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Trust me. Those same types of people have probably exchanged LCDs multiple times as well because the quality control and consistency on those is just as shit thanks to banding, DSE, light leakage, and yes, vignetting. The picky people who want great PQ are moving to OLED. We are the only ones willing to pay the premium. Yes, that means a lot of complaining online and multiple exchanges, but it is in no way worse than the situation with LCDs amongst this same crowd. I've returned many LCD TVs over the past five years and still haven't found one that doesn't have some distracting visual defect.
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
Trust me. Those same types of people have probably exchanged LCDs multiple times as well because the quality control and consistency on those is just as shit thanks to banding, DSE, light leakage, and yes, vignetting. The picky people who want great PQ are moving to OLED. We are the only ones willing to pay the premium. Yes, that means a lot of complaining online and multiple exchanges, but it is in no way worse than the situation with LCDs amongst this same crowd. I've returned many LCD TVs over the past five years and still haven't found one that doesn't have some distracting visual defect.
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Hate seeing shit like this, and nothing against you. Get so tired of the "no tv is perfect" line. The manufacturers do not need anymore excuses than they already give for non-quality product.

I should be able to purchase a $4000-5000 television and expect 'not' to have any noticeable defect.

The TV I have now I've loved. It is a Sony SXRD. This TV does have a known issue in the optic block fails and you eventually begin to get discoloration of the screen (usually green or yellow) in random areas.

But this is something that happens 'after time', not a continuing problem. When it doesn't eventually crop up, the TV has just been fine. No motion issues, good input lag, no deficiency with the screen. It's been a great TV.

Vignetting, judder, blooming, banding or many of the other problems are CONSTANT issues, and should not be acceptable. And when I hear that line of "No TV is perfect, you are always going to find a problem" is just a cop-out for the manufacturers. If it's been an ongoing problem for a type of TV, then they should have fixed it a long time ago.

As for LED and the Sony X940 series, I've been reading up on it, and I haven't been hearing any of the known issues with LCD/LED yet, so that is why it is on my radar right now.

But if you are willing to purchase one of the high end televisions, you shouldn't have to be worried about playing a panel lottery or 'live with' some kind of deficiency.
 
Hobbun said:
Hate seeing shit like this, and nothing against you. Get so tired of the "no tv is perfect" line. The manufacturers do not need anymore excuses than they already give for non-quality product.
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I agree with you 100%. Please understand, I'm not making excuses for the manufacturers, I'm just telling how it is. Guess what TV I have at home? The one I keep coming back to because every plasma and LCD I've tried over the past 5 years has annoying problems? A Sony 50A2000 SXRD. Like you, I love the TV, but my OB is starting to go (very slight green tinting that goes away after it warms a bit) and I'm really tired of dealing with the overscan and geometry issues inherent in the set. I've tried sets from Sony, LG, Samsung, and Panasonic. All the LCDs have suffered from DSE, tinting, and other uniformity issues I couldn't live with. The 3 Panny plasmas I tried all buzzed like a mofo on bright content. So I keep coming back to the SXRD because the screen is blissfully even AND relatively quiet. The input lag is pretty good too.

You seemed to want to avoid the OLEDs because people are exchanging them a lot to get a "good one", but my point was that the LCDs are likely no better. It's just that most of the people forking out the extra cash for OLEDs at this point are going to be the picky type that read AVSforum and know how to look for/spot problems. Two years ago those types of people were buying and exchanging LCDs the same way, they've just moved on to OLED and the majority of folks buying LCDs are either blissfully unaware of the issues or simply don't care as long as the set is watchable.
 
Nice! Another SXRD owner, don't see much of them anymore. :)

You say you keep 'going back to them', are you getting at you are purchasing used ones?

The OB is definitely going on mine, I have yellow tinting on the bottom (all the way across about an inch or so up) and in the middle on the top, about an inch down. It's not REAL noticeable right now, but I know it will get worse, so I am looking into a new TV. And yes, hate the overscan issue! Running into that with Rainbow Moon right now, where I can't adjust the screen appropriately enough to have it fit on the screen. But that is for another discussion.

What you are saying doesn't give me much hope on my search for a new TV, if you aren't finding anything as suitable as your SXRD. I'm worried I will go through the same. Right now I just pore through the threads on AVS, as well as trying to get user impressions. And right now, I am not hearing a lot of issues for the Sony LED X940 line. I have also been reading more on the new LG OLED G6 coming out, and it 'appears' to fix a lot of the problems inherent with previous OLED models. I will keep an eye out on this one and hope this is the case.
 
Hobbun said:
You say you keep 'going back to them', are you getting at you are purchasing used ones?...

What you are saying doesn't give me much hope on my search for a new TV, if you aren't finding anything as suitable as your SXRD. I'm worried I will go through the same.
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I've just kept the same TV. When I get a new one, I'll move the SXRD into the spare room and it will sit there until I need it again. I keep hoping I will not need it again but so far I have. The thing with me is that the SXRD has made me very intolerant of uniformity issues. When I buy a new set, there is usually a honeymoon phase where I am very happy with it. After I settle in with it and get all the settings tweaked, I'll start to notice the darker or brighter spots in the image, the bands on panning shots, or the tinting on flatly colored content like animation. Some games, like sidescrollers and first-person games, are really good at exposing these issues. Once I see these I cannot "un-see" them and it starts to annoy me. I will try to talk myself into living with it, but then I think of the couple grand I just spent on this set with a defect, and how I've got a working SXRD in the other room that is already paid for and does not suffer from this particular problem. I return the new set and either try something else or go back to the SXRD, often with a bulb replacement because the bulb getting dim is usually what kicks off a round of new TV attempts.

Every time this cycle occurs, at the beginning I am excited and hopeful, and by the end of the ordeal I have become so dejected and disappointed that I just say "fuck it" and keep dealing with the old set. Maybe I am hypersensitive, or I just have bad luck. I'm pretty much done with LCD tech, though. The next time I try a set it will be OLED.
 
Hobbun said:
Nice! Another SXRD owner, don't see much of them anymore. :)

You say you keep 'going back to them', are you getting at you are purchasing used ones?

The OB is definitely going on mine, I have yellow tinting on the bottom (all the way across about an inch or so up) and in the middle on the top, about an inch down. It's not REAL noticeable right now, but I know it will get worse, so I am looking into a new TV. And yes, hate the overscan issue! Running into that with Rainbow Moon right now, where I can't adjust the screen appropriately enough to have it fit on the screen. But that is for another discussion.

What you are saying doesn't give me much hope on my search for a new TV, if you aren't finding anything as suitable as your SXRD. I'm worried I will go through the same. Right now I just pore through the threads on AVS, as well as trying to get user impressions. And right now, I am not hearing a lot of issues for the Sony LED X940 line. I have also been reading more on the new LG OLED G6 coming out, and it 'appears' to fix a lot of the problems inherent with previous OLED models. I will keep an eye out on this one and hope this is the case.
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Another SXRD owner here. My blue filter is pretty much all gone at this point so I have a heavy yellow/green tint across the entire screen. I had to switch to vivid to get some color out of it.

LG has made quite a bit of progress in improving their OLED panels. The 9600 models that launched last March were the biggest offenders with the vignetting, etc. The flat 9500s were improved but still inconsistent early on. The more recent builds have been better so LG is heading in the right direction. A number of AVS members have preorders in at VE for their first allocation of the OLED G6. It should give us an early sample look at the quality LG is putting out for the 2016 models.

Sony has a lot less to improve on going from the X940C to the X940D. I would have bought the C if I could have fit it in my space so removing the side speakers on the D model is a welcome update.
 
Kelegacy said:
You'll have to let us know how you like it when it shows up. I can't wait for your impressions, especially if you are coming from LED/LCD.

Buy some diapers, you are going to poop.
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Yeah I use an edge lit Sony led from 2010 right now, so the OLED should be quite a step up.

Had a Pioneer plasma before that, loved the pq but it had lots of faults (wasn't a Kuro, was a 427xa).

I hope I can pick it up tomorrow.

My plan is to use it for a few years as my main TV and then buy a 4k OLED when they are cheaper, better and when there's actually enough content available.
 
MrJames said:
Another SXRD owner here. My blue filter is pretty much all gone at this point so I have a heavy yellow/green tint across the entire screen. I had to switch to vivid to get some color out of it.
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Yes, yours is pretty advanced. Just curious, how long have you been noticing the issue with your TV? I noticed the yellowish tint back in September of last year, and has gotten a little worse since then. For yours to completely cover your screen, and to have that heavy of a tint, it has had to been going on for quite awhile now.

MrJames said:
LG has made quite a bit of progress in improving their OLED panels. The 9600 models that launched last March were the biggest offenders with the vignetting, etc. The flat 9500s were improved but still inconsistent early on. The more recent builds have been better so LG is heading in the right direction. A number of AVS members have preorders in at VE for their first allocation of the OLED G6. It should give us an early sample look at the quality LG is putting out for the 2016 models.

Sony has a lot less to improve on going from the X940C to the X940D. I would have bought the C if I could have fit it in my space so removing the side speakers on the D model is a welcome update.
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Yes, I’ve heard more than once LG has really improved on the vignetting. I hope that is truly the case, it is a large factor why I was holding off on the EF9500, but not the only one. As I said before, also with judder (and didn’t like the TruMotion solution with the ‘soap opera’ effect), the input lag was never really that good for OLED (but I am hearing the G6 is in the mid 30s, that I can deal with) and burn-in prevention is also supposed to be much better, as well. All were factors on why I was holding off on OLED.

I will be especially curious to see what is said about the judder (or hopefully absence of it), as it’s not talked about as much as the vignetting, but it is something I notice when watching other TVs and it annoys me. I would like to see what kind of ‘solution’ LG offers for the G6, and how it is better now. And I hope it is not TruMotion still, as having the screen blur instead of giving the judder effect is just as annoying.

I was also in the same boat as yourself with the Sony X940C. With the speakers, I just didn’t have the space, but now that they got rid of them for the X940D, it is an option. I will be following the 940D and the G6 closely and see what people (owners) will be saying about them.
 
CrashPrime said:
Wow, so the MX279H ticks like every box. Anything I will regret not getting over it? Anything going to have a better IPS panel for gaming? displaylag.com has it at like near top of the list.
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Quoting myself here. I guess I am a little sensitive on pixel density. 27" 1080p is a little aliased compared to my 21.5" 1080p monitors.

I am thinking maybe I should've gone higher res.

For a monitor using consoles, going higher than 1080p is kind of a no-no right? I was really hoping to have an all-in-one for PC & PS4/Ps3.
 
In the EC9300 thread on AVS i saw a recommendation from a poster to use 1.9 for gamma and not 2.2 or even 2.4. So i tried this while i had Xbox One's dashboard one and i noticed immediately how 2.2 and 2.4 actually crush blacks, i clearly lose detail. All this time i was under the impression that 2.4 was the one to go for, but 2.2 and 2.4 actually make it too dark for my liking. This does make some games look a bit too bright on the other hand, but the game's own brightness slider can help with that.

I just tested it with Rise of the Tomb Raider and using the PC + expert 1 combo. Anything higher than 1.9 makes her skin look like as if she's been in the sun for a rather long time, lol.
 
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