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The South Carolina Primary & Nevada Caucuses |Feb 20, 23, 27| Continuing The Calm

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crimsonspider89 said:
Different bases.

Hillary's supporters were baby boomers and generation Xers who show more loyalty in the long run.

Millenials feel like shit with the current status quo that seems to be going nowhere.

Hillary has to start appealing to them and the working group.
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She's already been pushed pretty far to the left so that to me, a Berning Sanders supporter, wouldn't feel bad about voting for her, and Sanders is going to endorse and fight for her in the GE.

Besides, Trump will drive millenials to vote against him if nothing else.
 
I was busy listening to Trump cut a wrestling promo.... his gums are still flapping.

wait? 2 minutes in and... Hillary wins

how do you can't so fast in two minutes? LOL
 
pigeon said:
I think it's pretty reasonable to stand by Sanders until he drops out, but honestly I expect him to drop out after Super Tuesday.
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Ehh? Sanders is expected to lose Super Tuesday by a large margin, but a lot of the later states will go for Sanders. Sanders isn't dropping out any time soon.
 
royalan said:
In my opinion, if Bernie wanted to stay in this race, he should have fought as hard in SC as Hillary did in NH. Because the truth is he DID have a path to the black vote, through young black voters who don't have those ties to the Clintons that older blacks do and who are HEAVILY skeptical of Hillary.

If he fought harder, broadened his message more outside of "racism exists because of money" and interacted with the black establishment more instead of using Killer Mike and Cornell West as puppets, he could have gained some serious inroads here.

But after Nevada he just gave up on the black vote. So not only will he not win and get clobbered on Super Tuesday, but I can't honestly say he deserves to win.
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Bingo. His anti-establishment tip went absolutely wrong when it came to black voters, and he'll pay for it soon enough.


Many black people remember 08. They remember the tough on crime stuff. Obama beating Clinton wasn't a fluke.


But Bernie's ground game was colorblind.
 
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GoldenEye 007 said:
It's probably more important this time to rely on blacks, latinos, and other minorities rather than the young vote. If she locks those groups up at least, the GOP won't have a shot.
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She already has minority votes.

No minority in there right mind would vote for Trump.

However Millenial Caucasian and the fallen middle class(aka former working class) could.
 
Kid Kamikaze10 said:
Bingo. His anti-establishment tip went absolutely wrong when it came to black voters, and he'll pay for it soon enough.


Many black people remember 08. They remember the tough on crime stuff. Obama beating Clinton wasn't a fluke.


But Bernie's ground game was colorblind.
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And nonexistent.
 
Flai said:
Ehh? Sanders is expected to lose Super Tuesday by a large margin, but a lot of the later states will go for Sanders. Sanders isn't dropping out any time soon.
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There's Maine, off the top of my head. Probably some other caucus states.

A lot seems a stretch, and the amount of delegates they award probably isn't sufficiently consequential. I guess Washington is relatively large.

The larger primaries in places like NY, Ohio, Illinois, Florida still favor her based on polling.
 
Flai said:
Ehh? Sanders is expected to lose Super Tuesday by a large margin, but a lot of the later states will go for Sanders. Sanders isn't dropping out any time soon.
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There's no reason for him to stay in if he loses Super Tuesday by a large margin.

Sanders isn't just running for fun. He's either running to pull the election to the left or he's running because he honestly thinks he can win. (Or some combination of the two.)

If the former, then he's pretty much done all he can and he's just waiting for the right moment to quit.

If the latter, then it's pretty unlikely he'll think he can win after Super Tuesday, for the same reasons that people in this thread don't think he'll be able to win after Super Tuesday.

Sure, he might win some later states, but who cares? There's no prize for second. If he's mathematically eliminated, then it's in his best interest to quit, so he probably will.
 
I wonder how my county votes at least. Here in Anderson, on the democtratic side, I have only seen Bernie signs. I haven't seen a single Hillary sign I promotion at all.

That may be because her supporters already figured it's not worth it. I don't know, but I look forward to seeing how it plays out here.
 
Clinton snagging 84% of black vote in exit polls

Winning both under- and over-45s

Edit: alright we've got like a dozen people watching NBC/MSNBC here we don't need updates from me, hahaha
 
pigeon said:
There's no reason for him to stay in if he loses Super Tuesday by a large margin.

Sanders isn't just running for fun. He's either running to pull the election to the left or he's running because he honestly thinks he can win. (Or some combination of the two.)

If the former, then he's pretty much done all he can and he's just waiting for the right moment to quit.

If the latter, then it's pretty unlikely he'll think he can win after Super Tuesday, for the same reasons that people in this thread don't think he'll be able to win after Super Tuesday.

Sure, he might win some later states, but who cares? There's no prize for second. If he's mathematically eliminated, then it's in his best interest to quit, so he probably will.
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Yeah I really hope he does, if he takes a beating Tuesday. No sense drawing it out really.
 
Even considering the low expectations those numbers are FAR worse than I think anyone expected.

Those minority numbers for Bernie are catastrophic. A complete rejection.
 
rjinaz said:
Yeah I really hope he does, if he takes a beating Tuesday. No sense drawing it out really.
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To be honest, and not to hurt anybody's feelings, I think there's a non-zero chance he drops out tonight. 37 points is a pretty stiff loss for him to weather and still be confident that the later primaries are going to go enough better for him to get ahead.

But since Super Tuesday is literally in four days, I'd probably stay in if I were him, because yolo, so I don't really expect him to quit yet.
 
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