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The Most Commonly Spoken Foreign Languages in Each State (Besides Spanish)

Steejee

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Portuguese for MA doesn't surprise me. Lots of Brazilians in Boston area (east somerville, everett I think, other places), and yelling, arguing, and cursing in portuguese at my soccer games is only less common than yelling, arguing, and cursing in english.
 
Is there a huge foreign French population in North Carolina?

And wth is the article talking about saying Tagalog is the "second" official language of the Philippines. Filipino and Tagalog are the same thing..

As someone from a region named "Southern Tagalog", Tagalog is more of a regional dialect spoken in Luzon, while Filipino is the national version of it without the regional quirks and more English influence. I don't know if that's the article's intentions, but there is a distinction for Filipinos about it.
 

Laekon

Member
What exactly is Hmong? Quick search says it covers Southern China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc. Those countries have different languages with some large differences.

In the Northeast the Portuguese speakers are from Portugal.
 
Can Spanish and German really be considered foreign languages? Spanish is a second language like French in Canada and German was spoken widely before the First World War and large numbers of Amish still natively speak Pennsylvanian Dutch.


Or can any American Indian/Alaskan Native/Hawaiian Native language be considered foreign either?
 

Luxorek

Member
More Polish speakers than I expected. Now, Illinois was a given since there is a big Polish diaspora living in Chicago, but Idaho is a bit surprising.

Wonder what attracted my countrymen to that place.
 

linko9

Member
I wanna know what's up with all the german. Would have never guessed it would be so common. Are these people living in communities that have spoken german for generations? Or just because it's a popular second language?
 
I think a lot of posters are right in that "German" includes dialects that aren't modern Standard German, like Pennsylvania Dutch or Plautdietsch.

What exactly is Hmong? Quick search says it covers Southern China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc. Those countries have different languages with some large differences.

In the Northeast the Portuguese speakers are from Portugal.

Hmong is an ethnic group from that region. They largely emigrated as refugees after the wars in Vietnam (where they were allied with the U.S.) and the Laotian civil war. A lot of VOLAGs helped bring them to the country. I think there are still technically more in CA but are more spread out, whereas in MN they are all concentrated in the Twin Cities.

My guess is Somali will surpass Hmong very soon, if it hasn't already. I think there are now more Somalis in the state than Hmong, although the numbers are still pretty close.
 

Zoe

Member
It might not be. Almost everyone in the Azores has family that has moved to the USA back in the 50s-80s. In the 80's almost 200.000 Azoreans left for the USA.

The article broke down Massachusetts as a 3:1 ratio in favor of Portugal.

Feels different in Texas though. I know of a Brazilian presence, but I never hear anything about Portugal.
 

Chris R

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Saying "Aleut-Eskimo Languages" for Alaska is kinda bullshit.

It would be like saying "Asian" for states when it is Chinese or something, because there are some people who speak Korean who live there too.

And it kinda isn't foreign either, non-English sure, but whatever.
 

lyrick

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Zoe

Member
Saying "Aleut-Eskimo Languages" for Alaska is kinda bullshit.

It would be like saying "Asian" for states when it is Chinese or something, because there are some people who speak Korean who live there too.

And it kinda isn't foreign either, non-English sure, but whatever.

That's because of the census (starting page 80):

Code:
985 .Other Indo-European languages
986 .Other Asian languages
988 .Other Pacific Island languages
989 .Other specified African languages
[B]990 .Aleut-Eskimo languages[/B]
992 .South/Central American Indian languages
993 .Other Specified North American Indian languages
994 .Other languages
996 .Language not specified

Though if it were made more granular, it's possible none of them would have ranked high enough to appear on the list.
 

Kisaya

Member
Where in Tennessee are there Arabic speakers? My parents lived in Cookeville in the late 80s and didn't connect with any Arabs in the five years they were there.
 

_Ryo_

Member
This is anecdotal and mostly from time spent in libraries but in VA I've noticed many people speaking Asian languages. A lot of Japanese speaking peoples I've encountered in different libraries, though I don't know if they're tourists or immigrants.
 

Zoe

Member
Going back to the Tagalog vs Filipino thing, the census only gives Tagalog as an option.

I've never heard of Filipino as being distinctly different, but my father was born in the 30's and the change happened in 1959.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_language
In reality, however, Filipino has been variously described as "simply Tagalog in syntax and grammar, with no grammatical element or lexicon coming from ... other major Philippine languages,"[13] and as "essentially a formalized version of Tagalog."[14] In most contexts, Filipino is understood to be an alternative name for Tagalog,[15][16] or the Metro Manila dialect of Tagalog.

On December 13, 1937, Presisis of the new 'national language,' Quezon issued Executive order No. 134, s. 1937, approving the adoption of Tagalog as the language of the Philippines', and declared and proclaimed the national language so based on the Tagalog dialect as the national language of the Philippines.[26] On December 31 of the same year, Quezon proclaimed Tagalog as the basis of the Wikang Pambansâ (National Language) based on the following factors:[25]

In 1959, the language became known as Pilipino in an effort to dissociate it from the Tagalog ethnic group.[27]

The 1973 Constitution, in both its original form and as amended in 1976, designated English and Pilipino as official languages and provided for development and formal adoption of a common national language, termed Filipino, to replace Pilipino. However, neither the original nor the amended version specified either Tagalog or Pilipino as the basis for Filipino.
 

IceCold

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Didn't knew there was such a strong Portuguese diaspora out in the US. Wonder if there's a Portugaltown.

For sure. There's a lot of Portuguese people in the east coast. Many started as fishermen (New Bredford for example). Then you have California which has many Portuguese people in San Jose and the Central Valley (I don't know if this is still the case, but there was a time where most dairy farmers in Cali were Portuguese owned). A lot of farmland in Cali is Portuguese owned too. Some in Silicon Valley, was sold to tech companies. Also you had a lot of Portuguese whalers in San Diego (fun fact: Cabrillo was Portuguese). Hawaii also has many Portuguese immigrants.

In US most of the Portuguese diaspora comes from the Azores, except for Hawaii, which has a lot of Portuguese people from Madeira. The Ukulele is based on a Portuguese instrument that was introduced by Portuguese immigrants.

Also this is different, but the first Jews in the US came from Portugal and they founded the first synagogues. They were expelled from Portugal due to the Inquisition.
 
What exactly is Hmong? Quick search says it covers Southern China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc. Those countries have different languages with some large differences.

In the Northeast the Portuguese speakers are from Portugal.

We don't exactly have a country. We were nearly wiped out earlier in history. Then we spread out to south and south east of China. The only reason there are so many Hmong folks in the US is because of our involvement during the Vietnam War. We also have different dialects that adapted to each country - Hmong Green, Hmong White, etc.

Came in for Minnesota, Wisconsin - Hmong. Not shocked. Minnesota should be overtaken by Somali though.
 
I think it's more from Brazil rather than Portugal...

While some are, the ones in New England are from Portugal due to the country's political instability before the Depression and the rise of Salazar's Estado Novo, its repressiveness during Estado Novo, and uncertainty afterwards.
 

morningbus

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Portuguese for MA doesn't surprise me. Lots of Brazilians in Boston area (east somerville, everett I think, other places), and yelling, arguing, and cursing in portuguese at my soccer games is only less common than yelling, arguing, and cursing in english.

Also Fall River/New Bedford and, to a lesser extent, Provincetown have extensive Portuguese immigrant histories.
 
The hell at all the German?

I know historically some states had huge numbers of Germans settle there, is this just a relic of that? People still speaking it generations on?
German culture was a big part of the U.S. German was the second most common language in the U.S in a lot of places it was common to speak both. Then WW1 happened and German everything was abandoned. There are still some places where it's still strong but now Spanish is the new second language
 

big ander

Member
Only way I'd've been shocked was if Illinois wasn't Polish.
Where in Tennessee are there Arabic speakers? My parents lived in Cookeville in the late 80s and didn't connect with any Arabs in the five years they were there.

Not to be glib, but could it maybe possibly be that that was thirty years ago

Immigration to the US South from the Middle East increased slowly after the immigration act of 1965 but didn't really gain a lot of steam until the 90s and 00s. So it's just that your parents were there 30 years ago, not 20 years ago.

There's a pretty good number of them in the Omaha and Lincoln areas.
Yeah seriously. The obvious conclusion is that people just haven't been to Nebraska. But that doesn't surprise me, even most Americans tend towards distorted cliche ideas of the midwest as being solely irish-german-english blends. I mean immigrant populations are often have tight-knit and the midwest undeniably has a segregation problem but they're here.
 

iamblades

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Larger than British? I thought British roots were hugely prevalent, albeit obfuscated as people tried to distance themselves following Independence?

Depends on what you mean by British.

If you count all the Irish(given that most of that immigration was prior to Irish independence) and Scots-Irish(who largely just answer 'American' on census questions), yes probably, but not by a huge amount.

If you subtract out those groups then German probably jumps over British.
 
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Boogie9IGN

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Def would've thought Vietnamese/Mandarin would be more than Tagalog in CA

Was gonna say wtf at Vietnamese in Oklahoma/Nebraska but I seem to remember my gf's parents lived in one of those two states after arriving from Vietnam in the 70s lol
 
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