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[Movement]

Trump is the living embodiment of the american rights' hypocricy and what we've known all along
*Small Government (for the poor, disenfranchised, and minorities)
*Religious freedom (for their religion)
*Adore sexist and adore patriarchal figures
*Scared of outsiders and change

It's the living embodiment of what Fox News, talk radio, and political figures have been creating for 30 years. The bottom half of the party has split, they have done what they've been told.
*

 

[inner-G]

Trump is the living embodiment of the american rights' hypocricy and what we've known all along
*Small Government (for the poor, disenfranchised, and minorities)
*Religious freedom (for their religion)
*Adore sexist and adore patriarchal figures
*Scared of outsiders and change

It's the living embodiment of what Fox News, talk radio, and political figures have been creating for 30 years. The bottom half of the party has split, they have done what they've been told.
*

Pretty much, GOP. You reap what you sow.

 

[Sysgen]

I assume you're trying to say Clinton is worse than Trump, to which I have to ask you how in the world you see that.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ump-and-bernie-sanders-were-inevitable-213685

 

[j_k_redtail]

You're not alone, OP:
Psychologists and massage therapists are reporting ‘Trump anxiety’ among clients

 

[alpinestars1980]

Scared of Trump but cool with Clinton? Ok, that's dumb. They both suck.

 

[Movement]

Scared of Trump but cool with Clinton? Ok, that's dumb. They both suck.

You can honestly say that Clinton wouldn't be a better leader than Trump? I know Clinton is a neocon but the comparison is outlandish.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ump-and-bernie-sanders-were-inevitable-213685

Oh please. Trump is not what happens when politics brush people aside. Trump is what happens when politics lets crazy in.

 

[alpinestars1980]

You can honestly say that Clinton wouldn't be a better leader than Trump? I know Clinton is a neocon but the comparison is outlandish.

No, I can't. Just like you can't say that Clinton is decisively better. They're both garbage human beings. Stop acting otherwise.

 

[Tesseract]

Year 2021, morning alarm sound

Trump on screen

Trumpets siren

Rip

2027

Great innovation and technological advancementz

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

No, I can't. Just like you can't say that Clinton is decisively better. They're both garbage human beings. Stop acting otherwise.

Clinton isn't for banning Muslims and forcing our military to commit war crimes.

 

[Bruce Springsteen]

I don't understand how Cruz isn't an equally terrifying choice


At least Trump says he will be flexible

 

[alpinestars1980]

Clinton isn't for banning Muslims and forcing our military to commit war crimes.

Oh, she's interested in committing her own crimes. Nice.

 

[Movement]

No, I can't. Just like you can't say that Clinton is decisively better. They're both garbage human beings. Stop acting otherwise.

I don't think Hilary is a garbage individual. Actually, I'm not even sure what that means to you.

 

[Bruce Springsteen]

Oh, she's interested in committing her own crimes. Nice.

Like what?

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I'm not too worried.

 

[Dr. Feel Good]

Politics is so fucking broken I'd rather him get in there and make people wake up and fix this shit.

 

[alpinestars1980]

Like what?

We're just gonna conveniently forget what she is in trouble for?

 

[Bruce Springsteen]

We're just gonna conveniently forget what she is in trouble for?

The email which hunt that has yet to yield anything?

OK

 

[Movement]

We're just gonna conveniently forget what she is in trouble for?

Benghazi! Oh wait, the other one.

 

[User1608]

The false equivalency stuff people here are saying here is so intellectually lazy.

 

[Risette]

The email which hunt that has yet to yield anything?

OK

Or Benghazi, which hasn't yielded anything for the near 4 years it's been a "thing"

 

[foxuzamaki]

The problem with trump becoming president isnt him himself, but what it means for what the majority of the country is actually ok with, if trump wins the election it would say that most americans are for racism, are against immigration and all the stuff around it, let themselves as a whole, fear and hate muslims, that they dont like other countries, etc. etc.

 

[Movement]

Clinton is garbage. Trump is worse than garbage.

Take your pick.

She still slays Trump, even though she is trash.

That's how American politics usually is, as the United States is still so far behind.

Who would you rather have nominate supreme court justices?

Their picks would be radically different. Look at how much influence the conservative picks of the 70s-80s had and how much damage they did.

 

[Sysgen]

Oh please. Trump is not what happens when politics brush people aside. Trump is what happens when politics lets crazy in.

See what you want. If you don't see the reasons for the Sanders or Trump movements then I don't know what to tell you. Never mind the FBI criminal investigation, Hillary is a hawk, she has ties to Wall Street and has been paid millions for speeches, she has a foundation that accepted millions while she was in office. There is so much money flowing around her, that in itself is a huge middle finger to the Occupy Wall Street movement. She is the establishment and the establishment is not just the republican or democratic establishment but thee establishment where the watering hole is flush with money and they've all been feeding from the trough.

For different reasons, some enumerated here I am very uncomfortable with both Trump and Bernie but I will vote for either before letting another Wall Street insider become Secretary of the Treasury.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/08/investing/hillary-clinton-wall-street/

 

[perfectchaos007]

I have faith in the balance of powers should he become president

 

[BennyBlanco]

I don't understand how Cruz isn't an equally terrifying choice


At least Trump says he will be flexible

Cruz is a religious zealot and scary as fuck politician but I don't think he would have the chance in the general that Trump has.

Trump is extremely media savvy and knows how to work a crowd, probably from years of experience as a TV personality. He's a total fucking wildcard.

At least the policies Trump has put out there seem reasonable, but everything else he's been saying is so balls to the wall crazy that what he would do if he actually got in office is a question mark to me.

I don't think he would drag us into WW3 or anything really dramatic happening at all. Checks and balances exist for a reason. I'm not even opposed to his wall, it's already a guarded border. What difference does it really make?

I wouldn't be happy with a Trump presidency but I don't think it would be the total disaster people are making it out to be either. We'll see how much he dials back the crazy shit he's been sticking to during general season.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

See what you want. If you don't see the reasons for the Sanders or Trump movements then I don't know what to tell you. Never mind the FBI criminal investigation, Hillary is a hawk, she has ties to Wall Street and has been paid millions for speeches, she has a foundation that accepted millions while she was in office. There is so much money flowing around her, that in itself is a huge middle finger to the Occupy Wall Street movement. She is the establishment and the establishment is not just the republican or democratic establishment but thee establishment where the watering hole is flush with money and they've all been feeding from the trough.

For different reasons, some enumerated here I am very uncomfortable with both Trump and Bernie but I will vote for either before letting another Wall Street insider become Secretary of the Treasury.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/08/investing/hillary-clinton-wall-street/

So you're honestly going to tell me that you'd vote for a man spewing fascist dogma, stoking the fires of bigotry and prejudice to the extent that people are assaulting others at his rallies, as a president?

A guy who has no experience. A guy who has said he wants to build a wall around Mexico. That wants to ban foreigners. That has publicly said he is going to use terrorist actions and order the military to break the law. That "isn't sure" about the KKK?

You seriously think this guy would make us safer than Hilary? Make a better president than Hilary's experience? I'm not voting for Hilary but this is honestly what you're saying?

I have faith in the balance of powers should he become president

It's so fucking depressing that this is where we are in this election cycle.

 

[Skellig Gra]

We have 3 branches of the government for a reason. The republican establishment hates him too so he will have almost no power to do anything.

 

[User1608]

See what you want. If you don't see the reasons for the Sanders or Trump movements then I don't know what to tell you. Never mind the FBI criminal investigation, Hillary is a hawk, she has ties to Wall Street and has been paid millions for speeches, she has a foundation that accepted millions while she was in office. There is so much money flowing around her, that in itself is a huge middle finger to the Occupy Wall Street movement. She is the establishment and the establishment is not just the republican or democratic establishment but thee establishment where the watering hole is flush with money and they've all been feeding from the trough.

For different reasons, some enumerated here I am very uncomfortable with both Trump and Bernie but I will vote for either before letting another Wall Street insider become Secretary of the Treasury.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/08/investing/hillary-clinton-wall-street/

So you would vote for Trump, a racist bigoted man, one who has had multiple bankruptcies, engaged in petty feuds, and straight out admitted to bribing politicians? He is corruption. The man is a corporate donor who cut out the middlemen and decided to make a run for POTUS himself. Fuck both the establishment, and the minorities that get hurt here in the US, as a result of him being elected I suppose.

 

[The Silver]

If Trump were to actually win with his hatemongering platform then this country deserves whatever hellfire he brings.

 

[Movement]

Garbage, of course.

Alright.

 

[BiggNife]

I was worried about the possibility of a Trump presidency too, but after looking into it, it's thankfully unlikely unless something drastic (like a major terrorist attack on American soil) happens within the next 8 months.

There's a lot of things going against Trump. Despite having a high floor of voters that are super loyal, he is literally the most disliked nominee ever. Only 49% of Republican primary voters are happy with him as the candidate, as opposed to 76% for Dem voters and Clinton. Trump is very much the kind of candidate where people will vote against him not because they want the other candidate to win but because they don't want him to win. For all of the bitching about how Hilary isn't well liked a lot of people ignore the fact that Trump is disliked waaaay more.

Also, as others have said, he only has the white vote, and he needs a ridiculous percentage of white voters (70%) to have a chance at winning. He has pissed off literally every minority in the country.

On top of all that, he has had a consistently low number of last-minute voters pick him in the primaries, and that trend will probably continue in the general.

Am I worried about Trump and what he means for the future of American politics? Sure. Do I think he needs to be taken seriously? Abso-fucking-lutely. Do I think he'll win? No. Unless something crazy happens between now and November, the numbers just don't add up.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

So you would vote for Trump, a racist bigoted man, one who has had multiple bankruptcies, engaged in petty feuds, and straight out admitted to bribing politicians? He is corruption. The man is a corporate donor who cut out the middlemen and decided to make a run for POTUS himself. Fuck the establishment, and the minorities that get hurt here in the US, I suppose.

YEAH BUT HE SAYS IT LIKE IT IS AND U HAVE TO RESPECT THAT PLUS HE IS DEFINITELY ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT HE WILL SHOW THOSE WALLSTREET FAT CATS WHATS UP

 

[RedSwirl]

So what's this about fears that Trump as president would disintegrate the modern liberal western alliances as we know them?

 

[BigDes]

If at this point you are still comfortable in voting Trump then I am pretty confident in calling you out as the racist you are.

 

[News Bot]

Those thinking he's just trolling need to look at his history, actions and behavior outside of politics. He's a hack and a habitual screw-up, prone to extreme immaturity.

That said, he'll never be President. I hope he wins the Republican nomination, though. The GOP is a joke and doesn't serve any purpose but political instability and a blockade against basic progress.

 

[BlastProcessing]

We have 3 branches of the government for a reason. The republican establishment hates him too so he will have almost no power to do anything.

It's not so much Trump the man that is worrying, it's the fact that he is getting support. The reality that there is a significant percentage of voters that respond to this type of Authoritarian candidate puts the Legislative branch in doubt as well. Not in this election of course, but it is a worrying trend.

The Republican Party is broken and I don't think anybody knows what that really means long term.

 

[BiggNife]

Says the guy who genuinely thinks Trump could win Pennsylvania.

 

[radios shipping overview]

Trump's going to end up like Marie Len Pen which people were scared of awhile ago because they thought her party would get a lot of support in the recent regional elections in france. I wouldn't worry about anything. The democrats will figure out how to deal with him in the GE if he gets there.

If he ends up anything like Berlusconi, we'll have a persistent buffoon who's continually embroiled in scandals, leaves us in bad financial shape, and generally embarrasses us as a nation for years to come.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/28/world/europe/berlusconi-praises-mussolini-as-good-leader.html

Former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi of Italy praised the Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini for having been a good leader in many respects, despite his responsibility for anti-Jewish laws, immediately prompting expressions of outrage on Sunday as Europeans held Holocaust remembrances.

Sound familiar?

 

[Xenus]

But will he attempt to fire Congress the first time they don't agree with him?

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

But will he attempt to fire Congress the first time they don't agree with him?

he will have someone from the armed forces kill them. they have to listen to him

 

[Steel]

All for the candidate that takes the presidency while millions from corps and dictators flow into her husbands foundation as she sucks off Wall Street lobbyists. Trump is the issue? fuck wow.

Funny story, Trump is accepting donations for the GE. Furthermore, the money he already spent on his campaign was "loaned" to his campaign, so he can get it all back.

 

[Beerman462]

I would never vote for Trump, but I get the feeling that 90% of what comes out of his mouth is just to get the Republican nomination. I think we have zero idea what a Trump presidency would truly mean, but wouldn't want to risk it at the same time.

 

[lastplayed]

It's not so much Trump the man that is worrying, it's the fact that he is getting support. The reality that there is a significant percentage of voters that respond to this type of Authoritarian candidate puts the Legislative branch in doubt as well. Not in this election of course, but it is a worrying trend.

The Republican Party is broken and I don't think anybody knows what that really means long term.

There's a very fine line between a civilized society and total Event Horizon-themed chaos. We're just seeing it peek through a bit.

 

[benjipwns]

Check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxJbrAtRp2g

Pretty frightening shit.

Yep. The chanting is absolutely haunting.

Have you never seen protesters ejected from a political event before?

 

[inner-G]

But will he attempt to fire Congress the first time they don't agree with him?

They'll do it if he tells them to. Believe me, they'll do it.

 

[Iron Man Cooking a Crepe]

Thing is, Trump might crush any Dem among black voters specifically because he has actual detailed plans to help specific communities as opposed to both Dem candidates, who use general class-based language, which historically has not helped black people, even though they promised that it will, such as the deportation of illegals would force companies to offer those jobs to poor black people, and make wages rise.

And he may get support from a lot of STEM folks for the face that he wants to pretty much scuttle the H1B program that's been absolutely abused by Silicon Valley, which would help a lot of the women and minorities that can't get jobs because of "culture fit" and other BS reasons.

Some think, why would you want to work in a place you aren't wanted?

Well being black in America is being in a whole country that doesn't want you, and folks have to eat at the end of the day.

If Trump moves more center after winning to nomination and hammered those points, to which Hillary/Bernie has no real response that doesn't involve running to a Congress hostile to anything that helps poor and minorities, then he may steal enough votes from a lazy Dem turnout that's also handicapped by voter ID laws.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Thing is, Trump might crush any Dem among black voters specifically because he has actual detailed plans to help specific communities as opposed to both Dem candidates, who use general class-based language, which historically has not helped black people, even though they promised that it will, such as the deportation of illegals would force companies to offer those jobs to poor black people, and make wages rise.

And he may get support from a lot of STEM folks for the face that he wants to pretty much scuttle the H1B program that's been absolutely abused by Silicon Valley, which would help a lot of the women and minorities that can't get jobs because of "culture fit" and other BS reasons.

Some think, why would you want to work in a place you aren't wanted?

Well being black in America is being in a whole country that doesn't want you, and folks have to eat at the end of the day.

If Trump moves more center after winning to nomination and hammered those points, to which Hillary/Bernie has no real response that doesn't involve running to a Congress hostile to anything that helps poor and minorities, then he may steal enough votes from a lazy Dem turnout that's also handicapped by voter ID laws.

i'm sure black people would be jumping at the chance to support someone who won't denounce the kkk (or wont denounce them and then maybe later he will.... after a backlash). that's trumps whole thing: he is completely full of shit. and to some degree every politician flip flops and lies and whatever but trump is absolutely a scam artist.

 

[Steel]

I can't even.

If he's serious, that must be some strong cool-aid.

 

[User1608]

If he's serious, that must be some strong cool-aid.

Lmao, yep. Utterly delusional.