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Magic: the Gathering - Shadows over Innistrad |OT| Blue's Clues
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I had loam larvae. Fertile thicket. That blighted that fetches to lands for sacing itself and..something else. Probably one of those mana fixing colorless lands.
Maybe my buddy just scared me so much and I need to stop listening to him then.
You're almost right. It's not quite the converted mana cost that is important for what you should splash, but the card's effectiveness at various points in the game. If you have a cheaper card that is only good when cast on curve it probably isn't the best candidate to splash. So like, don't splash a Goblin Guide. But if it's a card that's just as good whenever you cast it, like a Pacifism, it is fine to splash.
Reflector Mage is probably worth it, since it can be good later on.
"God's Beard!"
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Also, if your deck is already good and you don't have a significant amount of fixing, basically nothing is worth splashing.
Should I Splash = (card's power level + mana fixing) / overall deck power level
Should I Splash = (card's power level + mana fixing) / overall deck power level
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
the colorless lands are usually your best bet, unknown shores specifically since it doesn't require a boardpresence. The blighted from my experience is best used to trigger landfall since it costs effectively 5 mana. Fertile thicket is handy but cipt lands do slow you down until played turn 1. Loam Larvae isn't particularly good either and eats up a draw to fix.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";198404497]1/1 Zombie tokens is almost as sacrilegious as Linvala making a 3/3 Angel.
Angels are 4/4s, goddammit! Don't even get me started on 4/4 bear tokens!
[/QUOTE]
3/3 Zombie
2/2 Soldier
4/4 Bear
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";198405255]Also, if your deck is already good and you don't have a significant amount of fixing, basically nothing is worth splashing.
Should I Splash = (card's power level + mana fixing) / overall deck power level[/QUOTE]
Except Dragonmaster Outcast, that's always worth it
Angels are 4/4s, goddammit! Don't even get me started on 4/4 bear tokens!
3/3 Zombie
2/2 Soldier
4/4 Bear
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";198405255]Also, if your deck is already good and you don't have a significant amount of fixing, basically nothing is worth splashing.
Should I Splash = (card's power level + mana fixing) / overall deck power level[/QUOTE]
Except Dragonmaster Outcast, that's always worth it
"God's Beard!"
Member
Loam Larva is a legitimately good card. It's a good blocker against cards like Zada's Commando and it carries counters from your green bolster cards extremely well. Green decks are also the most likely to be three colors, so the ability is often relevant. Green decks aren't great at generating colorless outside of Scions, so getting a wastes for your Stalking Drones is also pretty good. Loam Larva is the sort of card people underestimate until they play the format a lot. It just fits very well for a 2 mana common.
Joe Molotov
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I like how BFZ had 1/1 Plant tokens and then OGW had 0/1 Plant tokens. Get rekt, consistency.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";198409773]Loam Larva is a legitimately good card. It's a good blocker against cards like Zada's Commando and it carries counters from your green bolster cards extremely well. Green decks are also the most likely to be three colors, so the ability is often relevant. Green decks aren't great at generating colorless outside of Scions, so getting a wastes for your Stalking Drones is also pretty good. Loam Larva is the sort of card people underestimate until they play the format a lot. It just fits very well for a 2 mana common.[/QUOTE]
Disagree, in the world of OGW 2 drops it ranks fairly low to me. I'm pretty disappointed if I have to mainboard it personally.
Disagree, in the world of OGW 2 drops it ranks fairly low to me. I'm pretty disappointed if I have to mainboard it personally.
charlequin
Banned
It sat out one set, there are two prowess cards in OGW.
In the case of this particular card, he doesn't grant prowess because he only grants abilities that don't stack.
No True combat Mechanic stacks
Remembrance
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Good point! So that makes it the only evergreen keyword that stacks?
platypotamus
Member
You can't use Arlinn's 0 ability to flip her and then use another ability on her other side on the same turn, can you?
"God's Beard!"
Member
Nope.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
If you could it would mean you could make 3 2/2s and bolt 3 times as soon as you cast Arlinn, making her the brokenest card in the universe lol
Also
Apparently, Pécheurs (Sinful / Sinners) and Pêcheurs (Fishermen).
platypotamus
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That's about what I figured, just wanted to make sure
If you could it would mean you could make 3 2/2s and bolt 3 times as soon as you cast Arlinn, making her the brokenest card in the universe lol
Also
Apparently, Pécheurs (Sinful / Sinners) and Pêcheurs (Fishermen).
That's actually hilarious, who spellchecks these cards?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
If you could it would mean you could make 3 2/2s and bolt 3 times as soon as you cast Arlinn, making her the brokenest card in the universe lol
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Apparently, Pécheurs (Sinful / Sinners) and Pêcheurs (Fishermen).
whoops
Because one drop mana dorks are problematic and would basically make a lot of stuff have to be overcosted to compensate.
charlequin
Banned
Yep, because it's the only one that's a triggered ability. Lifelink used to and a number of block combat mechanics (Flanking, Exalted, etc.) stack the same way.
i mean, in a perfect magical christmas scenario, sure.
fact is it dies to sweepers, wraths, removal, is a bad topdeck, is slower in a format of tapped lands, doesn't generate non-green mana etc. etc.
Hecatonchires Custom
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If you could it would mean you could make 3 2/2s and bolt 3 times as soon as you cast Arlinn, making her the brokenest card in the universe lol
Also
Apparently, Pécheurs (Sinful / Sinners) and Pêcheurs (Fishermen).
Card can also translate to Melt on the fishermen.
Joe Molotov
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Sounds like red sideboard tech against Merfolk.
Eh, can't really blame them for messing up the accents. It can happen with French.
On the other hand more expensive mana dorks are not exactly super popular.
On the other hand more expensive mana dorks are not exactly super popular.
Have you noticed the fact that sweepers/wraths are more expensive than they used to be? Even burn sucks these days.
That was inevitable with a move to a more creature-based game though. Same with nerfing counter spells and draw spells.
Remembrance
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Remember when not having both Llanowar Elves and Birds of Paradise in the core set at the same time was the worst thing people could imagine?
Having to play Utopia Tree?
Having to play Utopia Tree?
languish is four mana and there are two playable burn spells for one mana. i don't see what the problem is. turn three siege rhino would suck but luckily it's about to rotate. four copies of llanowar elves in a given deck would not break the format, guys.
I think it might be problematic in Limited if you have a 1CC mana dork at Common, maybe even Uncommon. In Constructed? Maybe not. I could see it push certain decks a bit too much though.
charlequin
Banned
It's like something like Lightning Bolt: it doesn't break the format, and you can have it around occasionally without ruining everything, but it's so significant that how other cards interact with it quickly becomes one of the biggest factors in determining their quality. If you have Llanowar Elves, every other mana dork is immediately bad, and every green creature basically costs one less.
People played Sylvan Caryatid, people play Rattleclaw Mystic, they'll play two-mana ramp guys.
keeblerdrow
Member
Not having a 1-mana dork in the format pretty much killed Whisperwood Elemental from being a viable card.
Not that I'm cross about it 'er nuthin
midrange would play those guys, not aggro.
if they go the 2cc route, i'd hope they have the guts to push them. noble hierarch and deathrite shaman are basically the peak of mana dorks. why not have creatures that can produce mana and attack. something like:
mana dude 1G
t: add g to your mana pool. transform.
1/1
werewolf
trample
3/3
Well, if we want to be pedantic, the word werewolf is not on the card.
Birds of Paradise will always have my heart. I dearly loved equipping it with swords and swinging in.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Flanking?
EDIT: Beaten earlier by charlequin, should've read up to the end of the thread first
that's exactly why i say ugin isn't a dragon!
arlinn can be killed by victim of the night if you somehow turn her into an artifact with march of the machines in play lol
You just wait until Ugin turns out to be on the side of the Eldrazi. Can't trust (colorless) dragons. But yeah, a one-time mana dude with transformation would be interesting.
On a sidenote, I really like To The Slaughter. It's a 2-for-1 in the right deck at Instant Speed and reasonably priced.
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So I wanted to take a look at the delerium effects cards get and try to parse what cards were actually worth chasing the mechanic for. I didn't look at any flip sides so if they had it I would have missed it
Descend upon the sinful - need it for card to work very strongly
Angel of.deliverance -if it doesn't win, it's effect will
Topplegiest- free tap each of your turns
Tooth - free -1/-1 each turn so good
Soul swallower - becomes a massive win condition
So 5 cards I see so far
So I wanted to take a look at the delerium effects cards get and try to parse what cards were actually worth chasing the mechanic for. I didn't look at any flip sides so if they had it I would have missed it
Descend upon the sinful - need it for card to work very strongly
Angel of.deliverance -if it doesn't win, it's effect will
Topplegiest- free tap each of your turns
Tooth - free -1/-1 each turn so good
Soul swallower - becomes a massive win condition
So 5 cards I see so far
You missed me making the No True Scotsman troll argument
Dark Knight or Tom Goes to the Mayor?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I really liked Sylvan Caryatid. Ironically, being good enough to get cast in a format that also has Elvish Mystic can probably tell you that Sylvan Caryatid is too good.
CarpeDeezNutz
Member
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but I got like hundreds of old magic cards I bought in the 90s is there a place to evaluate their worth or should I dump them? Gonna fish them out and see what I got.
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