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[studyguy]

Someone think of the hypothetical children!

 

[EdibleKnife]

He doesn't even have the nomination yet. It's stupid to be doing this right now.

Why exactly do they need to wait? This time last year no one thought Trump would even still be around but now he's one of the final people in the running for the nomination. The US should be embarrassed that someone who built his foundation on hate speech even made it this far.

 

[commedieu]

ITT:Must be nice.

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[GitarooMan]

Geez. American politics seem so angry.

It's not just America.

 

[gutter_trash]

every candidate should have the right to have their rally and have their message heard


we need Operation Chaos to procede as planned

 

[Jacksinthe]

yep both sides are the same

we are talking equal amounts of ignorance here, yep

blocking traffic to a rally and inciting racism and violence are equivalent actions

Hey, genius.

Don't start this bullshit with me, bub.

Not once did I make any equivalence of the kind.

Stop fishing, dude.

I said both sides look like fools, one for supporting Trump and the other for stepping on he rights of others. Nowhere did I say they were the same.

Get your head out of your ass. You are barking up the wrong tree. I don't appreciate you throwing shit my way I never said.

Are we clear? I will ask a mod to handle this if you don't get it. Just let me know.

 

[theignoramus]

http://www.cbs5az.com/category/214022/cbs-5-news-livestream

Livestream of a different road block by protesters

 

[SapientWolf]

Good. There should be more protests like this. If you think this isn't working, you're out of your mind. Need the proof? We're talking about it. That's all that needs to be done to pull off a successful protest. There's news coverage, and it's being rightly associated with the backlash against Trump. When I look at this, I see people who are tired of hate and violence being touted as virtues and are actually doing something to raise awareness.

It's not about courting theoretical line-riders. And if this makes you want to vote for Trump, you never gave a shit anyway.

Oh, also, let's keep on pretending that helicopters don't exist for medical emergencies, or that there aren't alternate routes for ambulances to take, or any of the other solutions cities and towns already have in place in case there's a bottleneck on the highway. What do you think ambulances do when there's just tons of traffic? Hang out and hope for the best? Good lord.

No, not really. If it doesn't change the vote it's not going to help much. Not sure about Utah but I think AZ is pretty much a done deal.

Voter registration rallies might actually help, but young people don't really care enough.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Oh look, someone with some reason.

This isn't progressive, GAF. This is about as regressive as you can get.

Protest and disruption is literally how every major turning point in our history happened.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Why exactly do they need to wait? This time last year no one thought Trump would even still be around but now he's one of the final people in the running for the nomination. The US should be embarrassed that someone who built his foundation on hate speech even made it this far.

The rest of the republican nominees are no better.

 

[Kusagari]

He doesn't even have the nomination yet. It's stupid to be doing this right now. They are going to cause someone to die by blocking traffic too. They already said people are crossing into ongoing traffic to pass them.

The only way he's not getting the nomination is if the GOP itself screws him. The actual voters of one of the two major parties in the country clearly want Trump to be the nominee.

That is something that is worthy of protesting whether he has a real chance at becoming president or not.

 

[Ooccoo]

Did you somehow miss the picture of the protests happening in Brazil? Puts anything seen here to shame.

USA is divided, unlike Brazil.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Christ, here we go again with the "They're not protesting the right way" bullshit.

 

[radios shipping overview]

I understand how infuriated I'd be if I was simply trying to go visit some family and a bunch of dickheads I don't support were protesting another dickhead I don't support by forcing me to not be able to see my family.

If you were apathetic about an issue and a protest blocking traffic got you to notice what was going on, then it worked. That's the point.

Unless you live in a rural area or on an isolated island, there are always alternate routes. Nobody's dying because of an inconvenience.

 

[commedieu]

Protest and disruption is literally how every major turning point in our history happened.

Why isn't he aware of that? It's like jsharp has the luxury to be ignorant of this fact.

 

[Necromanti]

I bet Trump sees this as free advertising.

 

[Big Baybee]

Protest and disruption is literally how every major turning point in our history happened.

Lol fuck history tho

 

[Lothar]

They're not trying to annoy people. They're trying to stop a bigot from becoming president.

Then they're stupid because annoying people who haven't made up their minds isn't going to make them join your side. It's going to make people want to do the opposite. They are actually helping Trump out.

 

[LiquidSword]

Protest and disruption is literally how every major turning point in our history happened.

Yeah this exactly. I can't believe some of the posts in here

 

[Ooccoo]

Is it me or the commentator for the live feed is abysmal? Doesn't seem to be able to connect two sentences in a row.

 

[haxamin]

Wow, people are really going to keep supporting the protesters blocking traffic. Nice.

I really hope there aren't any pregnant women or injured folks trying to get to a hospital. That way you're only supporting commerce, tourism, and other banal things like that be halted.

Fucking idiots.

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[EdibleKnife]

The rest of the republican nominees are no better.

They aren't any better but only one has the bulk of media attention these days. By protesting Trump, they're aren't suggesting Cruz is any better.

Then they're stupid because annoying people who haven't made up their minds isn't going to make them join your side. It's going to make people want to do the opposite. They are actually helping Trump out.

If you haven't made up your mind to not vote for Trump no matter what after his ban Muslims, Mexican rapists, etc. debacles, there wasn't much anyone could do to convince you in the first place.

 

[Jacksinthe]

Oh look, someone with some reason.

This isn't progressive, GAF. This is about as regressive as you can get.

Blocking traffic is the least of it, dude.

Everyone has rights and nobody should be stepping on them. If people don't want to hear you they shouldn't be forced to.

Even if those people are insufferable racist, homophobic, bigoted assholes. You can't force them to listen.

 

[Visceir]

This will only get more people to vote for trump.

 

[Indicate]

Comment on twitter "gonna have to put protesters in a designated area".

This reminds me of the free speech zone in Ferguson. Disgusting.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I bet Trump sees this as free advertising.

Of course. He will take advantage of this as much as humanly possible but only this time his supporters can't point fingers at minorities.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Then they're stupid because annoying people who haven't made up their minds isn't going to make them join your side. It's going to make people want to do the opposite. They are actually helping Trump out.

But history has shown you're very wrong

 

[Pineapple]

What in the world are you talking about? What liberal values go against this?

I'm assuming he/she is referring to the right to assembly.

 

[commedieu]

Then they're stupid because annoying people who haven't made up their minds isn't going to make them join your side. It's going to make people want to do the opposite. They are actually helping Trump out.

There is a side to hate speech and fascism?

The bullshit in this thread is astounding.

History books aren't avaliable anymore in your town or what?

 

[Basketball]

I don't see the point of silencing political rallies. Even if Trump just spews nonsense let them have their place and make your own voice heard at the ballot box. Totally backword in my opinion and I doubt Obama would support this.

 

[Violater]

The question I have is, why isn't trump held legally accountable when he incites violence?

 

[reckless]

All this does is help trump especially in the primary...

 

[Jharp]

Protest and disruption is literally how every major turning point in our history happened.

I'm not saying and didn't say they shouldn't protest. Holy shit.

 

[GK86]

Protest and disruption is literally how every major turning point in our history happened.

Imagine this thread back in the day:

"WTF at these protestors sitting in and blocking the lunch counter! I'm trying to go about my life. Fuck your protest. Seriously, I just want a sandwich, go protest out of my sight."

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

What in the world are you talking about? What liberal values go against this?

Well, classical liberal values would hold that speech deserves to be fought as speech, by other speech, not brute-forced out of the public sphere. I'm against the "no-platform" tactic for that reason.

 

[Angelus Errare]

You can clearly tell who skipped history classes in primary school...if they even attended.

 

[Stereogatari]

Don't do it America. Don't become like Turkey.

 

[commedieu]

All this does is help trump especially in the primary...

If this Is your sound logic. Then that's even more reason to shut down hate rallies. If people are on the fence with hate, and traffic convinces them to support a group yelling go home nigger after assaulting a man.

America is more broken than I thought.

Again:

Shut it down.

 

[Steel]

Christ, here we go again with the "They're not protesting the right way" bullshit again.

When they're directly effecting people that have nothing to do with Trump? Yeah, they're not protesting the right way. And to be clear, I support what happened in Chicago.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

This will only get more people to vote for trump.

You guys really don't get it. Disruption and protest is meant to be the voice of the voiceless. It's when you have no other viable avenue to get your message out. Do you think people do this shit for fun?

 

[Slayven]

Imagine this thread back in the day:

"WTF at these protestors sitting in and blocking the lunch counter! I'm trying to get about my life. Fuck your protest. Seriously, I just want a sandwich, go protest out of my sight."

"WTF I was trying to drop my kid off at school but the National Guard was there 'integrating', why can't they quietly wait their turn?"

 

[Arkeband]

This will win people round. Clearly the far Left in America has given up on intellectual debate and instead wants the like of Trump to just melt into theme ether.

Its hard to debate the statistically poorly educated, highly religious right.

This is the crowd that boos debate moderators who fact check.

 

[User1608]

Go protestors!!

Christ, here we go again with the "They're not protesting the right way" bullshit again.

These people care more about order than justice.

 

[theignoramus]

Of course. He will take advantage of this as much as humanly possible but only this time his supporters can't point fingers at minorities.

No, they will most definitely blame Hispanics and undocumented immigrants for this one.

 

[Htown]

Hey, genius.

Don't start this bullshit with me, bub.

Not once did I make any equivalence of the kind.

Stop fishing, dude.

I said both sides look like fools, one for supporting Trump and the other for stepping on he rights of others. Nowhere did I say they were the same.

Get your head out of your ass. You are barking up the wrong tree. I don't appreciate you throwing shit my way I never said.

Are we clear? I will ask a mod to handle this if you don't get it. Just let me know.

Is that supposed to be scary?

You said, and I quote again, "Both sides are idiots, IMO. Supporters for being racist, xenophobic assholes to the protestors for stifling individual liberty."

You also said, "Both parties scraping the bottom of the barrel here and look like fools."

If you weren't equating anything, you were doing a bad job of expressing your thoughts.

Call any mod you want, bro, I don't give a fuck.

 

[Jharp]

Unless you live in a rural area or on an isolated island, there are always alternate routes. Nobody's dying because of an inconvenience.

Well, here's the picture that's been posted in this very thread again:

Not exactly a ton of exits for people to simply get off and take an alternate route, now is there?

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Don't do it America. Don't become like Turkey.

Take a look at the Republicans right now, and the fact that Trump(with his 5th grade grammar, according to one study) will have half the country voting for him. It can't sink much lower than that.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

I'm not saying and didn't say they shouldn't protest. Holy shit.

You're asking people to protest in a different way, which means in a way that doesn't actually disrupt anything. Be honest with yourself.

 

[EdibleKnife]

All this does is help trump especially in the primary...

Again. If a day of block traffic makes you vote for Trump but after months of Trump's xenophobic and racist rhetoric and supporters, you were some how still on the fence, you were beyond help.

 

[commedieu]

Its hard to debate the statistically poorly educated, highly religious right.

This is the crowd that boos debate moderators who fact check.

And they deny science. Only in america do you have people pretending the hate mongers are the ones that really want to have a gee ole debate. And these people are simply ruining it.

So fake.