Hundreds of Protesters and Supporters Clash Outside Trump Utah Rally

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"WTF I was trying to drop my kid off at school but the National Guard was there 'integrating', why can't they quietly wait their turn?"
"I'm just trying to get to work on time, but this woman wants to hold up the bus for the rest of us? Like damn, just sit in the back & get over it."
 
Shit guys it's almost as if those practicing civil disobedience to bring attention to the issue spurs discussion on both sides of the problem. Welcome to the thread discussing the problems brought about by blatant racist sentiments.

Not everyone agrees with the solution but that's not the point anyway.
 
I'm not saying and didn't say they shouldn't protest. Holy shit.
People in this thread like reading between lines and adding their own thoughts as projection which are completely unrelated to what you may have said.

Just to start shit. To throw shit and see if it sticks. To label you.

Just happened to me a few posts up from some ignorant poster who threw shit at me I never said or even REMOTELY implied because they have a preconceived bias of anyone that has an alternative view.

Its either all or nothing with them. There is no rational middle-ground.
 
Uh people blocking traffic makes you want to vote the way they want you to vote? I've never wanted Trump to win so badly in my life.

Agreed. These people should get a permit to protest when someone who classifies their ethnic group as rapists and thieves is running for president.
 
I consider people blocking traffic much less deadly and damaging than a man and his supporters who want to build a wall around the US and ban an entire religious group from entering the United States.

Not to mention wanting to go after the familes of said religious group. And by "go after", I mean kill.
 
Imagine this thread back in the day:

"WTF at these protestors sitting in and blocking the lunch counter! I'm trying to go about my life. Fuck your protest. Seriously, I just want a sandwich, go protest out of my sight."
"I support civil rights, but it's lunch time and I need to be back at work in 30 minutes. This may change my stance."
 
People in this thread like reading between lines and adding their own thoughts as projection which are completely unrelated to what you may have said.

Just to start shit. To throw shit and see if it sticks. To label you.

Just happened to me a few posts up from some ignorant poster who threw shit at me I never said or even REMOTELY implied because they have a preconceived bias of anyone that has an alternative view.

Its either all or nothing with them. There is no rational middle-ground.

The middle ground is responding with your words.
There has been no reply from either of you about how history literally illustrates your error in logic. But please, continue.
 
Treat people like shit, have a person running for office that encourages, legitimizes, and endorses it. Get upset at those people who've had enough of being treated like shit. Suggest that them being upset is the problem.

America, since 1776™

When they're directly effecting people that have nothing to do with Trump? Yeah, they're not protesting the right way. And to be clear, I support what happened in Chicago.

You do know that the two 3 roads in Chicago that were blocked due to the protesting are frequently used roads right...
 
Comment on twitter "gonna have to put protesters in a designated area".

This reminds me of the free speech zone in Ferguson. Disgusting.

I think this is the main issue with starting these protests so early before the general election. It's going to cause major cities to preemptively plan for the disruptions during the GE. There will be "right way to protest" plans laid out before anyone shows up, and it will dilute protests efficacy or lead to violence.
 
I really do hate the fact some have once again equated protesting against a racist man and his platform, supporters with well, racist people who hate the rest of us for merely existing.
 
"I'm just trying to get to work on time, but this woman wants to hold up the bus for the rest of us? Like damn, just sit in the back & get over it."

"How ignorant to use a diverse symbol like the black power fist at the Olympics, you are an American act like one"
 
Again. If a day of block traffic makes you vote for Trump but after months of Trump's xenophobic and racist rhetoric and supporters, you were some how still on the fence, you were beyond help.

I mean all of the republican candidates do that they are just less blatant about it.
 
I don't see the point of silencing political rallies. Even if Trump just spews nonsense let them have their place and make your own voice heard at the ballot box. Totally backword in my opinion and I doubt Obama would support this.

Nobody's silencing anything. There's no government entity forcing Trump rallies to shut down. Protest and civil disobedience are forms of the free exercise of political speech. This is your fellow humans talking to you about what they believe in, not The Man telling you what to do.

It's really troubling and disingenuous how people draw an equivalence between the constitutionally-protected actions and speech of individuals and the constitutionally-restricted actions of the state.
 
If Trump loses and Cruz gets the nomination, is that a victory?

That's what I don't get about this. They should want Trump to be the nominee, since he's guaranteed to lose unless Clinton is arrested or dies before the election. Cruz is polling even or ahead with her and holds essentially the same views that Trump does, even if he isn't so blunt when expressing them.
 
Is that supposed to be scary?

You said, and I quote again, "Both sides are idiots, IMO. Supporters for being racist, xenophobic assholes to the protestors for stifling individual liberty."

You also said, "Both parties scraping the bottom of the barrel here and look like fools."

If you weren't equating anything, you were doing a bad job of expressing your thoughts.

Call any mod you want, bro, I don't give a fuck.

I did say those things. You said I said:

yep both sides are the same

we are talking equal amounts of ignorance here, yep

blocking traffic to a rally and inciting racism and violence are equivalent actions

Nowhere did I say any of that. I never said they were EQUAL which is why i purposefully cited the DIFFERENT ways each side are fools.

Nowhere did I mention traffic, violence or race.

Are you daft?
 
Apparently this is against the law?

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/02906.htm

13-2906. Obstructing a highway or other public thoroughfare; classification

A. A person commits obstructing a highway or other public thoroughfare if the person, alone or with other persons, does either of the following:

1. Having no legal privilege to do so, recklessly interferes with the passage of any highway or public thoroughfare by creating an unreasonable inconvenience or hazard.

2. Intentionally activates a pedestrian signal on a highway or public thoroughfare if the person's reason for activating the signal is not to cross the highway or public thoroughfare but to do both of the following:

(a) Stop the passage of traffic on the highway or public thoroughfare.

(b) Solicit a driver for a donation or business.

B. Obstructing a highway or other public thoroughfare is a class 3 misdemeanor.
 
What in the world are you talking about? What liberal values go against this?

Trump has a right to hold his rallies.

Protesters have the right to protest.

Protesters DO NOT have the right to shut down or block rallies. It is blocking freedom of mother fucking speech. its the first amendment.
 
No I didn't, but alright, fuck it. You guys are right, I'm just a racist who hates MLK. You got me pegged.

Nope. That's a silly conclusion.

History proves the effectiveness of protest. And the point. You keep dodging that to feign being a victim due to your flawed logic and or understanding of what a protest is.

I suggest you look into why protests happen. Then check back in later.

Stop exaggerating what is being said about your comments about protests. They are far off the mark of reality. And just speak to your lack of understanding.
 
Can someone post a link of the new york protest please?

The protest is back by several activism groups, including ICE-FREE NYC, International Women’s Day Coalition, Millions March NYC, Queer DEtainee Empowerment Project, Revolutionaries Against Gendered Oppression Everywhere [RAGE], among others.

Meanwhile, hundreds of immigrant rights advocates are also protesting in Arizona, where Trump is currently campaigning ahead of their upcoming primary.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/03/19/donald-trump-protest-manhattan/
 
My only problem with this is that the protests are just gonna make Trump that much more likely to get the nom.

Then again, Trump is still better than Cruz, so I guess.....It's a win-win?
 
Trump has a right to hold his rallies.

Protesters have the right to protest.

Protesters DO NOT have the right to shut down or block rallies. It is blocking freedom of mother fucking speech. its the first amendment.
The first amendment is about the government policing you for your speech. It protects the people from the government, not the people from ourselves.

The first amendment literally allows protests like this. Read carefully:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
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I initially thought they were just blocking traffic to be obnoxious and get attention for their cause, but if they are doing it to stop people attending Trump rallies to hear what he has to say, that is pretty bad.
 
That's what I don't get about this. They should want Trump to be the nominee, since he's guaranteed to lose unless Clinton is arrested or dies before the election. Cruz is polling even or ahead with her and holds essentially the same views that Trump does, even if he isn't so blunt when expressing them.

Are you somehow blind to the kind of racism Trump is bringing into the open right now? Someone being able to use that to get a major party nomination will obviously influence further political campaigns whether Trump loses or not.

Trump is a precursor to just how bad political discourse might get in this country as his supporters become more and more marginalized.
 
The middle ground is responding with your words.
There has been no reply from either of you about how history literally illustrates your error in logic. But please, continue.

What error in logic?

I'm dying to know how NOT stifling individual liberty is an "error in logic"

I'm talking about forcing people to listen to YOU when they don't want to - that's it. Fuck traffic - that's not my argument because its PETTY.

Forcing people to do anything against their will is not right, IMO.

How is that an "error in logic"? Seriously. How?

I'd honestly like to know how THAT is wrong?
 
Trump has a right to hold his rallies.

Protesters have the right to protest.

Protesters DO NOT have the right to shut down or block rallies. It is blocking freedom of mother fucking speech. its the first amendment.
Lol "I have no idea what freedom of speech is."
No I didn't, but alright, fuck it. You guys are right, I'm just a racist who hates MLK. You got me pegged.
Who said this?
 
Trump has a right to hold his rallies.

Protesters have the right to protest.

Protesters DO NOT have the right to shut down or block rallies. It is blocking freedom of mother fucking speech. its the first amendment.
Goodness! I do declare, you sound hotter than a gator's snatch on a Florida summer..

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Trump has a right to hold his rallies.

Protesters have the right to protest.

Protesters DO NOT have the right to shut down or block rallies. It is blocking freedom of mother fucking speech. its the first amendment.

The First Amendment means protection from government action, not from protesters who think you're a dangerous asshole.
 
If this Is your sound logic. Then that's even more reason to shut down hate rallies. If people are on the fence with hate, and traffic convinces them to support a group yelling go home nigger after assaulting a man.

America is more broken than I thought.

Again:

Shut it down.

We have Trump and Cruz as the republican front runners, I'd say America is pretty broken.
Trump does best with people that are angry, this makes more people angry its not that hard to think it will help him in the Primary at least.
 
Physically stopping people from attending a speech or physically stopping a speech from occurring is going too far in my opinion.

What would the tone be in here if Trump supporters physically blocked Sanders supporters from attending his speeches?

Not like this Calamari. Not like this 😞
 
I mean all of the republican candidates do that they are just less blatant about it.

That's what I don't get about this. They should want Trump to be the nominee, since he's guaranteed to lose unless Clinton is arrested or dies before the election. Cruz is polling even or ahead with her and holds essentially the same views that Trump does, even if he isn't so blunt when expressing them.

I'm curious as to why you think they aren't interested in protesting Cruz or any other repub as well. As Trump has the most media coverage, he has the widest push back response. If Cruz gets the nomination and focus on him finally surpasses Trump, his ideals will be called into question and protested against.
 
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