Dash_Riprock
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MoS had a huge 2nd weekend drop if I remember right.
Early impressions start rolling out for Batman v. Superman
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MoS had a huge 2nd weekend drop if I remember right.
Spanish language reviews are coming in early at RottenTomatoes. Their Mexican site is putting them up early.
They're rotten:
They're rotten:
That's every blockbuster since Jaws.
word of mouth is a killer
Discotheque
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I am perfectly fine with this film being sacrificed with the burden of all that clunky set up as long as other movies are more free from it.
I just hope suicide squad is as focused on its own insular shit as the trailers imply. That would be nice.
I just hope suicide squad is as focused on its own insular shit as the trailers imply. That would be nice.
That was up earlier
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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You were born in 2008?
I'm a little worried about reviews, since I don't think I've seen anybody here on GAF yet (and correct me if I'm wrong) give a universally positive review. And these people at early screenings are obviously big comic book movie fans. So if none of them outright loved it, what's a critic going to think?
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That was my point, keep him around for JL1 and maybe move on after that? Whedon was tired af after two Avenger movies, Snyder starts shoooting his third blockbuster in a row. Must be exhausted and bringing in someone could freshen it up. Question is who.
I bet they call Nolan every night, crying and begging him to take over.
Screaming Meat
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CRAZY PREDICTION HERE: it's slightly above mediocre
thehypocrite
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It seems you have a problem with all that will come after the movie, but that's cool. I also did found the TFA to be an enjoyable movie but far from flawless or without structure problems as you are trying to present it in your posts. I also have no idea what it has to do with this movie.
I appreciate your opinion on why it's a bad movie and why the trailers have shown the whole movie and whatnot. Looking forward to forming my own opinion on it.
AmaterasuOni
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I seriously doubt it, but let's see. These days word to mouth internet chatter means huge wins (Deadpool) and terrible flops (Allegiant).
Most people I've seen walked away enjoying the movie. Nobody had out of body experiences though. I have seen people say they loved it though. Is it a perfect movie? Of course not.
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And it will, even if the reception is similar to MoS.
Word of mouth will have to be toxic for it to have any effect, and that seems unlikely
people on GAF and others online have been praising it though....even those who had been criticising it before the release
There just seems to be some cherry picking in this thread
Sibersk Esto
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Knocked down to #3 in a 64% drop to Monster University and World War Z
Had me legit shook.
PartlyCloudlike
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Feel the same way. Obviously I would have preferred a movie that did not have the pacing issues or complaints about "trying to do too much." I'll probably feel the same sting of disappointment I felt after my first viewing of MoS because it did not live up to my expectations. But MoS, as flawed as I considered it to be, kept drawing me back and I liked it more each time I viewed it. Hopefully BvS will do the same.
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My hype levels are at an all time low.
But that is good.
But that is good.
Dash_Riprock
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I think Allegiant flopping was less WoM and more the target audience being too old and having moved on.
IMO a better example of word of mouth killing a film is X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Internet chatter has been positive as well. For me if anyone is holding out on a review or a RT score to tell them to see a movie just isn't all that interested in the first place.
If you want go see it. WOM good or bad goes from there. but a WW release and with really no comp until Civil War I see it at least getting near a billion.
Some really hardcore marvel cherries who wants this movie and the entire DCU to fail.
We're talking a consensus of reviews here, not the occasional spazz reviewer
I think that the Allegiant trailers were enough to make that movie flop.
I doubt it'll be toxic, but I bet it'll be divisive. That's almost worse to me, because that's neither so good to vindicate the believers or bad enough to be an enjoyable disaster. It'll be... MoS. Average. Highs and lows cancelling each other out to a net zero.
But we'll see. Whether it soars or plummets, we'll all know very, very, VERY soon. I'm extremely eager to see how this one ultimately lands.
That movie leaking super early also really killed its chances. People knew it was garbage weeks in advance.
The Avengers immediately followed Thor and Captain America, two films that were far less successful at the box office than Man of Steel. Neither of which were universally loved or praised by fans.
BvS has some cynicism around it that the Avengers didn't, but it also deals with much more popular characters.
Donner's Superman gets Superman's personality right and almost nothing else.
Superman 1 was a solid movie for it's time period, but doesn't belong in the conversation with modern comic book movies.
In happiness, over insane tracking numbers?
Iron Man didn't even really have a script when they went to film that thing. Avengers was out 4 years later.
Batman Returns didn't hold up in 1993.
Colonel Nasty
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This movie will be huge. Transformers consistently is and has no where near the marketing budget.
thehypocrite
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Everything is divisive on the internet.
Bobby Roberts
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How the hell did this thread become the Heresy Olympics?
I said this earlier but whatever reception MoS has it hasn't stopped people from being excited for this movie
Schweinehund
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Tim, Verendus and Penguin all liked it (if not loved).
BronsonLee
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T-Minus Ten Minutes, Stand By For Titanfall.
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BROTHER.
CaviarMeths
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Jeff Robinov no longer works for WB.
Glass Shark
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The other big thing I keep thinking about with this movie is how much of it is going to make zero sense to people who aren't super into comics.
Right, that's what I'm saying though. Nobody (that I can see, but obviously I haven't looked everywhere on the forum) even in the target demo like the people on GAF during an early screening outright loved it. That's a little worrisome.
people know who batman and superman are, they're fighting. what's to understand?
AmaterasuOni
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And I honestly thought the same about BvS trailers. Until I saw the whole thing.
Going to address this because I'm one of those crazy Superman evangelicals you hear about that knock on your door in the mid afternoon over the weekend to ask you if you've heard the Good Word of Jor-El.
So, originally, superman could not fly. "Leaps tall buildings in a single bound" was the thing. It was just a feature of his prodigious strength. In fact, all of Superman's initial powers had much closer to a semi-reasonable sci-fi explanation. For example, his enhanced vision came from Krypton having a thicker atmosphere supposedly, so Kryptonians developed eyes that could see through shit, more or less. That got simplified into "X-Ray vision" for ease of explanation. Eventually, writers forgot that the power was not literal X-Rays coming from Superman's eyeballs and they invented heat vision as a sort of focusing of the X-Rays like he was microwaving dinosaurs and giant robots. Slowly, that developed into actual frickin' lasers shooting out of his frickin' head.
That kind of game of narrative telephone extends to all his powers. Superman could jump really high because the mass of Krypton is much greater and his body is built to resist higher G's than that on earth. I imagine that's where his toughness first came from as well. Jumps developed into kind of an in-between area where he'd leap and change direction somehow in the air (unexplained) and finally, they just gave up all pretense and said, "Yeah, Superman can fly." As a point of comparison, early stories with the Hulk have him leaping in the air and seemingly swooping in to land in a very similar way to that in-between state Superman passes through.
Ok, but all those explanations for his powers? They don't make sense anymore. Krypton in modern comics isn't a super-dense world with pea soup atmosphere. So, the writers retroactively made up some mumbo jumbo about how his incredible powers come from a really quirky interaction between Kryptonian physiology and earth's yellow sun. Some comics have implied that modern comics Kryptonians actually might have an internal organ that (somehow) generates gravitons that they can propel from their body. This might even make sense with a super-dense Krypton as just being enough to keep a normal humanoid up and walking around and gets supercharged under the yellow sun.
So anyway...
TL
R - His powers don't make sense anymore because no one's powers make sense after fifty years of retcons.Bobby Roberts
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You telling me you don't believe that Batman wouldn't have that level of advanced tech back in 1992?
You go back about 5 years and that's the weapon of choice for about 85% of all club DJs in the world.
BronsonLee
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That's exactly why it doesn't make sense to them. They're supposed to be friends dammit!
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