Huh? You can say the same about TFA. Everyone knows bat and sup.
Early impressions start rolling out for Batman v. Superman
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Huh? You can say the same about TFA. Everyone knows bat and sup.
Seems to be pretty damn hard to understand for a lot of people actually.
It's explained in the movie why they're fighting, though. They don't even know each other at this point.
Going to address this because I'm one of those crazy Superman evangelicals you hear about that knock on your door in the mid afternoon over the weekend to ask you if you've heard the Good Word of Jor-El.
So, originally, superman could not fly. "Leaps tall buildings in a single bound" was the thing. It was just a feature of his prodigious strength. In fact, all of Superman's initial powers had much closer to a semi-reasonable sci-fi explanation. For example, his enhanced vision came from Krypton having a thicker atmosphere supposedly, so Kryptonians developed eyes that could see through shit, more or less. That got simplified into "X-Ray vision" for ease of explanation. Eventually, writers forgot that the power was not literal X-Rays coming from Superman's eyeballs and they invented heat vision as a sort of focusing of the X-Rays like he was microwaving dinosaurs and giant robots. Slowly, that developed into actual frickin' lasers shooting out of his frickin' head.
That kind of game of narrative telephone extends to all his powers. Superman could jump really high because the mass of Krypton is much greater and his body is built to resist higher G's than that on earth. I imagine that's where his toughness first came from as well. Jumps developed into kind of an in-between area where he'd leap and change direction somehow in the air (unexplained) and finally, they just gave up all pretense and said, "Yeah, Superman can fly." As a point of comparison, early stories with the Hulk have him leaping in the air and seemingly swooping in to land in a very similar way to that in-between state Superman passes through.
Ok, but all those explanations for his powers? They don't make sense anymore. Krypton in modern comics isn't a super-dense world with pea soup atmosphere. So, the writers retroactively made up some mumbo jumbo about how his incredible powers come from a really quirky interaction between Kryptonian physiology and earth's yellow sun. Some comics have implied that modern comics Kryptonians actually might have an internal organ that (somehow) generates gravitons that they can propel from their body. This might even make sense with a super-dense Krypton as just being enough to keep a normal humanoid up and walking around and gets supercharged under the yellow sun.
So anyway...
TLR - His powers don't make sense anymore because no one's powers make sense after fifty years of retcons.
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I can't keep track of who in this thread has seen the movie... but I feel like if you had seen it you would know exactly the type of stuff I'm referring to.
I haven't seen it. I've read a ton of spoilers though
Stuff will go over casual viewers heads and they won't realize they missed anything, which is exactly what happens in MCU films and even the later Harry Potter films.
Sibersk Esto
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Going to address this because I'm one of those crazy Superman evangelicals you hear about that knock on your door in the mid afternoon over the weekend to ask you if you've heard the Good Word of Jor-El.
So, originally, superman could not fly. "Leaps tall buildings in a single bound" was the thing. It was just a feature of his prodigious strength. In fact, all of Superman's initial powers had much closer to a semi-reasonable sci-fi explanation. For example, his enhanced vision came from Krypton having a thicker atmosphere supposedly, so Kryptonians developed eyes that could see through shit, more or less. That got simplified into "X-Ray vision" for ease of explanation. Eventually, writers forgot that the power was not literal X-Rays coming from Superman's eyeballs and they invented heat vision as a sort of focusing of the X-Rays like he was microwaving dinosaurs and giant robots. Slowly, that developed into actual frickin' lasers shooting out of his frickin' head.
That kind of game of narrative telephone extends to all his powers. Superman could jump really high because the mass of Krypton is much greater and his body is built to resist higher G's than that on earth. I imagine that's where his toughness first came from as well. Jumps developed into kind of an in-between area where he'd leap and change direction somehow in the air (unexplained) and finally, they just gave up all pretense and said, "Yeah, Superman can fly." As a point of comparison, early stories with the Hulk have him leaping in the air and seemingly swooping in to land in a very similar way to that in-between state Superman passes through.
Ok, but all those explanations for his powers? They don't make sense anymore. Krypton in modern comics isn't a super-dense world with pea soup atmosphere. So, the writers retroactively made up some mumbo jumbo about how his incredible powers come from a really quirky interaction between Kryptonian physiology and earth's yellow sun. Some comics have implied that modern comics Kryptonians actually might have an internal organ that (somehow) generates gravitons that they can propel from their body. This might even make sense with a super-dense Krypton as just being enough to keep a normal humanoid up and walking around and gets supercharged under the yellow sun.
So anyway...
TL
You forgot to mention mild tactile telekinesis.
AmaterasuOni
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Yep. I haven't read Superman that much. Snyder wasn't explaining things to a viewer like me. I guess they had to work JL into the script very fast, so it left the whole script that incoherent.
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''There is a storm coming, Mr. GAF''
You guys ready? It's gonna get bloody. Think I'll lower my score even more; 45%. on RT.
You guys ready? It's gonna get bloody. Think I'll lower my score even more; 45%. on RT.
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How the hell did this thread become the Heresy Olympics?
You think my love of Knock Knock is heresy?
What is this!
Oh and I will say this.
Tables will be flipped if Wonder Woman can't fly. I've had an inclining they'd do that for some time now.
It's the end times. Fuck it, 29%!!!!
Is this the one where Spider-man shows up? Or the one with the TV spin-off?
... I'm still shaking my head that DC hasn't the slightest desire to unify their movie and TV media in any way, whatsoever, especially since WB is one of the few companies that could actually do it and do it right.
That was only ever flirted with in the John Byrne era and never really fully implemented. Only Conner Kent's Superboy is a full-on tactile telekinesis guy.
And I went crazy enough...;-P
Well, when you have Batman as a Main in your movie you need to do a movie of Batman and Robin levels of terrible to make it flop, and I think Batman and Robin technically wasnt a BO flop.
Superman is Super-flawed!
Fun video to watch until the shitstorm shits. Returns Superman was considered creepy, but seems he was straight up rapey in the 80's! (according to the vid)
Fun video to watch until the shitstorm shits. Returns Superman was considered creepy, but seems he was straight up rapey in the 80's! (according to the vid)
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
So do we have the two crow-eating threads ready, depending on the outcome?
Ouch
Same. It was dangerously high before.
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Germain Lussier of io9 weighs in:
edit: Weird that the IGN review is being touted as a negative when the subhead flat out compares it to Watchmen.
Also, why would you go in expecting Avengers anything? What a fuckin' dumb frame of reference.
edit: Weird that the IGN review is being touted as a negative when the subhead flat out compares it to Watchmen.
Also, why would you go in expecting Avengers anything? What a fuckin' dumb frame of reference.
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ViewtifulJC
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Germain Lussier ‏@GermainLussier 1m1 minute ago
Batman V Superman is a huge letdown. It's bloated, unfocused & dull with serious character missteps. A few good moments can't save the rest.
it begins boyz
Batman V Superman is a huge letdown. It's bloated, unfocused & dull with serious character missteps. A few good moments can't save the rest.
it begins boyz
AmaterasuOni
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Well about that. BvS's script is even worse than MoS.
Dash_Riprock
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BronsonLee
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Welp.
Colonel Nasty
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What a bummer, I dislike MoS but DC deserves better.
Strangelove77
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At the very least I hope we get some good gifs from it.
The Pa Kent wave is still one of the greatest gifs ever. I hope something in this movie can live up to it.
The Pa Kent wave is still one of the greatest gifs ever. I hope something in this movie can live up to it.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Oh god, it's happening isn't it
I liked MoS so I dont know how to take that, is it worst than Batman and Robin?
Sibersk Esto
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Is that an instant positive though?
The link says telegraph. But then again I would expect much different from Peter Bradshaw either.
Bobby Roberts
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Interesting in that the critic there really likes Man of Steel, apparently.
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But...what if I actually like Watchmen?
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