DrROBschiz
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It did and it was actually worse becuase of how it swung the camera and how the lock on worked
Final Fantasy XV: Platinum Demo Thread
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It did and it was actually worse becuase of how it swung the camera and how the lock on worked
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
You may only be sensitive to sub-30 framerates but not microstutters. PS4 demo has some pretty bad issues with it, see here on the right side scale. Xbone has it sometimes but not as bad when it does; it struggles more with framerate as things are loading in new scenes, likely because of its lesser RAM. PS4 seems to have higher res hair and slightly different lighting, so my guess is that it's related to some framebuffer issue with the lighting and its interaction with the AA method.
I agree, especially with the unskippable cutscenes.
Story spoilers:
Yeah, there's a plate that spawns like 10 soccer balls, and you get a message from Carby talking about how Noctis got a ball as a gift, and alluding that all he wants is to be with his dad more, but he's never around to play with him. It makes the car appearing at the end as his "safe place" hit even harder.
DrROBschiz
Member
The cutscenes are skippable actually
Yep, agreed.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
How? I kept pushing all the buttons including start and menu. I can't even skip when Carbuncle is talking to me.
I finally will get to spend some time playing this after work today. I only booted it up for 2 minutes yesterday and one thing I immediately noticed is how close the camera is to Noctis. It looked kind of irritating. Maybe I will get used to it. I thought they moved the camera back a little for Duscae 2.0 which I didn't try after completing 1.0 so I asumed this demo had the camera a little further back, too.
Whompa02
Member
The camera pulls back a little more when you're in more open areas, but If I had one thing to gripe about, I wish it was a little pulled back in the initial segment.
DrROBschiz
Member
i dont remember!!!
I was able to get the prompt to show up but I didnt do it cuz it was my first playthrough
hit options/start
lower right corner hit triangle/y
some scenes require a little to be played before you can pause to skip
PRjumpman124
Member
As someone who didn't play the Duscae demo, is there more to combat than alternating between holding down the dodge and attack buttons? The only other thing I accidentally discovered was the warp strike but other than that the combat in the platinum demo fell flat. Magic seems really iffy to aim too.
Yeah you are right just tried it heh.
DrROBschiz
Member
Hey at least magic is aimable
It was a little awkward but its awesome having complete control
I hope that spells have different setups. (Line spells, Aoe from Body, etc..)
If every spell is just move a bubble that could get boring
Abstruse Moose
Member
Showed off some visuals while giving a sample of the combat without giving away any of the story. Totally good with that. Had no issues with graphics or performance.
if you are locked onto a target you can just tap the magic button and it will cast it at the current position of monster when you pressed the button for on the fly magic.
It's not as accurate but if you have a decent AoE spell or one that is accurate like flare it usually always hits even on quick cast.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I really dislike the outside area (please tell me this style and feel for the game won't be there often)
Much more liked what I saw i the house and on the streets and mostly seemed like a Kingdom Hearts game
but
WHY do textures suck? No very high resolution at all and it seems to lack a lot of AF which are two major things that turn me off. For theirr time I felt ps2/ps3 FF games just looked better.
The soggy frame rate that is everywhere, turning etc is worry some. PS4K version neede?
Much more liked what I saw i the house and on the streets and mostly seemed like a Kingdom Hearts game
but
WHY do textures suck? No very high resolution at all and it seems to lack a lot of AF which are two major things that turn me off. For theirr time I felt ps2/ps3 FF games just looked better.
The soggy frame rate that is everywhere, turning etc is worry some. PS4K version neede?
DrROBschiz
Member
UmbraeCruxis
Banned
You can string things together pretty well. like Warp Strike + aerial combo with the short sword + switching to big sword for a final big strike.
You can teleport while in the air doing an aerial combo by expending a little bit of mp. This can make for some awesome and satisfying combat where you're dancing around in the air while teleporting to dodge his strikes. (Works on ground to an extent too, but I found it cooler in the air
)Warp strikes from high points deal massive damage, so if you get higher up on buildings and lock on, you can deal massive damage.
The other weapons add a lot more variety and should be there from the beginning.
Weapons do have special attacks too. I think the big sword can do a spin attack if you do the ground combo while rotating the left stick.
Pressing Square at the right time rather than just holding it doesn't expend MP while holding it would.
All in all, I found it very fun, and I think it has a bit more depth than a lot of people breezing through it once will prolly find. What it really needs is a good tutorial to show how to do the cool stuff with it.
AmethystEnd
Member
The music is so goddamn good. This waltz-ish theme in particular. I've wanted to hear more of it since we heard it in one of the trailers.
UmbraeCruxis
Banned
Didn't Duscae imply that there would be? Unless that's changed, then yeah, I think so.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I personally LOVE the soft look. Really works to create a cohesive aesthetic with the characters and variety of environments. Feels more like a fantasy place or a film than a digital rendering. I love how you can have lots of foliage and leaf shadows cast on the ground and no shimmering. They actually look like plants and a natural scene instead of a shitty mass of pixels. Usually you have to mess with advanced high end PC methods of AA for that and still sometimes the engine itself won't let you. I actually think RotTR could have benefited from this style to address shimmering, pushing it a bit closer to TR Underground. Unfortunately it seems from this demo they still haven't worked out how to get it working fully for the wooden cabinets with gold details, so you still get some pixels popping out awkwardly there, but I can't think of a single game that has been able to get that to work right. I feel it will probably look better at "normal size" though, closer to AC Unity rooms. For example the hallway before the last area was pretty nice.
Edit: BTW it was hard to tell from the comparison video. Does this ice stuff look nicer in the PS4 version? I think it may be a good example of greater distance detail.
Edit: BTW it was hard to tell from the comparison video. Does this ice stuff look nicer in the PS4 version? I think it may be a good example of greater distance detail.
Aceshighhhh
Member
Considering that we'll be able to toggle between combat styles, do we know if the demo features the "action-oriented" combat mode for the final game?
PRjumpman124
Member
Would've been nice if the demo stated even half of those things, but at least it sounds like combat has more depth to it than I'd thought. I'll try out those aerial combos in my next run.You can string thins together pretty well. like Warp Strike + aerial combo with the short sword + switching to big sword for a final big strike.
You can teleport while in the air doing an aerial combo by expending a little bit of mp. This can make for some awesome and satisfying combat where you're dancing around in the air while teleporting to dodge his strikes. (Works on ground to an extent too, but I found it cooler in the air
Warp strikes from high points deal massive damage, so if you get higher up on buildings and lock on, you can deal massive damage.
The other weapons add a lot more variety and should be there from the beginning.
Weapons do have special attacks too. I think the big sword can do a spin attack if you do the ground combo while rotating the left stick.
Pressing Square at the right time rather than just holding it doesn't expend MP while holding it would.
All in all, I found it very fun, and I think it has a bit more depth than a lot of people breezing through it once. What it really needs is a good tutorial to show how to do the cool stuff with it.
DrROBschiz
Member
DId they specify this cuz im all ears
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Warp to the top of the building,you should see a ledge with two panels to fall on
UmbraeCruxis
Banned
Both are panels on a platform attached to the big middle building in the plaza area where you fight the giant. If you look down the middle and see the point warp, warp to it. Look up, and you should see another point warp above that one. Warp there and then fall. You should see the platform.
Or fall to the ground and see Noctis roll around in pain.
Everything before Adult Noctis is worthless, and is not representative of the actual game. Kid Noctis's section is just a glorified tech demo
What is this in reference to?
Each weapon feels different, it is certainly beneficial to switch between them often, but I have not heard of a lower level system toggle before.
YankeeDonB
Member
You can string things together pretty well. like Warp Strike + aerial combo with the short sword + switching to big sword for a final big strike.
You can teleport while in the air doing an aerial combo by expending a little bit of mp. This can make for some awesome and satisfying combat where you're dancing around in the air while teleporting to dodge his strikes. (Works on ground to an extent too, but I found it cooler in the air
Warp strikes from high points deal massive damage, so if you get higher up on buildings and lock on, you can deal massive damage.
The other weapons add a lot more variety and should be there from the beginning.
Weapons do have special attacks too. I think the big sword can do a spin attack if you do the ground combo while rotating the left stick.
Pressing Square at the right time rather than just holding it doesn't expend MP while holding it would.
All in all, I found it very fun, and I think it has a bit more depth than a lot of people breezing through it once will prolly find. What it really needs is a good tutorial to show how to do the cool stuff with it.
Man, I feel we need a PSA like this. Lots of folks very understandably missing this type of info which would at least allow them to fairly assess the combat as represented in this demo.
AmethystEnd
Member
God forbid people figure things out on their own.
aramanKain
Member
People don't know how damn good they've got it in gaming today. Now get off my lawn.
YankeeDonB
Member
I put quite a bit of time into the giant fight, and I don't think I would have found all that's there if I hadn't previously put quite a bit of time into Duscae 1.0 and 2.0. Some people enjoy fiddling around and trying stuff out, sure, but lots of people, understandably just take what they're told and run w/ it.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I put at least about 40 hours into duscae and im still grateful you guys figured a few things out. Nothing wrong with a lil help.
PensivePen
Member
The game should at the very least have some kind of move list or control explanation in the pause menu. Any good and most mediocre action games inform you of what your inputs do.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Well the demo could be better constructed for encouraging extensive experimentation. Most people will beat the boss and go along with Carbuncle and then it's over, and then if they want to try combat more they have to go through the whole thing. There should just be an endless combat mode from the start menu after you've beaten it once.
Almost should have made the Duscae demo available to everyone at the same time. It does a better job easing you into it (better than nothing at least) and is much easier to see the "RPG" in it than here with Platinum. Duscae does a better job of being the "FF8 demo", which is what people new to the game need.
I finally got to play through the demo and I have to say that I had alot of fun. I was genuinely impressed by the worlds geometry, the extremely varied texture work, object density, and the quality of the lighting. I like that SE wanted to show off by putting buttons everywhere to change the weather and ToD in real time.
I have to admit though, the amazing visuals are really hampered by whatever PostAA solution they have. It's like an extremely poor implementation of FXAA, which already makes images look like they're smeared with Vaseline. I'm guessing there's some sort of heavy TAA going on as well, which would explain why still shots look so bad. Is the demo running sub HD as well?
I have to admit though, the amazing visuals are really hampered by whatever PostAA solution they have. It's like an extremely poor implementation of FXAA, which already makes images look like they're smeared with Vaseline. I'm guessing there's some sort of heavy TAA going on as well, which would explain why still shots look so bad. Is the demo running sub HD as well?
AmethystEnd
Member
You can refight the boss as many times as you want if you just run past the button that ends the demo.
I figured out everything in that long post about combat just through simple experimentation over the course of half an hour.
potatohead
Member
If this is true I don't understand the purpose of the demo other than to be off-putting.
I didn't play either of the previous demos (I didn't pre-order or buy Type-0).
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Episode Duscae makes more sense to be the free demo as it better represents the full game.
Duscae 3.0, with the update combat, should have been the first demo released to the public. The reception would have been so much better. I'm one of the people that bought Type 0 only to play the XV demo, and that was like a year ago. I've had my fill, let everyone else have fun too.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
I agree with this.