PhoncipleBone
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Oh, I am not expecting it to hit those levels. But it will still do very well.
Wkd Box Office 0401-0316 - BvS has 'worse legs than Barbara Gordon' -- Sibersk Esto
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Oh, I am not expecting it to hit those levels. But it will still do very well.
I'm just remembering some people going crazy with their Hobbit predictions here, and how it was going to blow Avengers out of the water overseas (even after we had Avengers numbers).
And the Hobbit films had more connecting them to LOTR than Fantastic Beasts do to HP.
Beasts needs to be very much its own thing to succeed, no shoehorned HP links would help it in the long run. Personally I think it's got enough fresh things to feel both familiar and original to everyone. It will still be marketed as a "new HP movie", but these characters need to instantly connect to the audience, and I think they will
MHWilliams
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Harry Potter, no. But, beating Dr. Strange? Likely, unless Strange is super surprising.
PhoncipleBone
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Strange is Kevin Feige's baby. It could be very surprising because he may not have moved on it unless he was extremely happy with the script.
It will most likely beat Doc Strange, but I wouldn't call it a lock for breaking $1B, or beating BvS at present.
I think that Doc Strange has the same sort of goals as Ant-Man did last year. Get people on board with the character. If it can hit $500M, that would be solid.
WB is obviously expecting more than that from Fantastic Beasts. since it's their only tentpole film between Suicide Squad in August and Lego Batman next February.
PhoncipleBone
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In the end, BvS will probably make enough to break even or come in just over or below the profitability line, so no one will lose their shirts over it. But, the box office and the combination of the critics and weekend drops will make WB seriously rethink their future plans for the DCCU.
PhoncipleBone
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LOL. That is good.
I don't think we know yet.
Most of their solo introduction films have been in the $130-150M range though. Guardians being the big exception. Though with Ike gone, I wonder if Doc Strange will end up being more expensive than what we saw previously.
Oh I get it... you continue to be a dick. Funny part is my comments have absolutely nothing to do with the movie lol but you somehow complaining about some random hashtag when theirs more important stuff in the world... but it's okay, someday you'll understand how reading works right? Well, if not, it's fine too...
Don't even want to bother with whatever planet or pool you're living on or in but might want to try reading my original post again...
Bobby Roberts
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I think the combination of Ike being gone and Strange being Feige's favorite is gonna lead to a bigger budget. They were chasing after Joaquin Phoenix for awhile there, and word was before he pulled out they were throwing some serious money at him.
So The Force Awakens will break $935M domestic. I thought Disney would give it more of an expansion at the end, but I suppose $935M or $940M doesn't really matter at this point.
Amazing domestic run.
I don't think that the opening weekend record will last through this decade, but I can't see anything topping the second or third weekend records for awhile. Even if Ep 8 or 9 opens larger, they will likely have less staying power (as is pretty much always the case for sequels).
The Domestic box office record tends to be a pretty long lived one as well. We may be waiting a long while for our next $900M+ film.
Amazing domestic run.
I don't think that the opening weekend record will last through this decade, but I can't see anything topping the second or third weekend records for awhile. Even if Ep 8 or 9 opens larger, they will likely have less staying power (as is pretty much always the case for sequels).
The Domestic box office record tends to be a pretty long lived one as well. We may be waiting a long while for our next $900M+ film.
PhoncipleBone
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Shit, we might be waiting a long time to have something even hit $700m again, much less $900m
Maybe, but I doubt it. We have another 4 Star Wars films coming out before Ep9, and the excitement of having Han Solo and Chewie back after 30 years isn't something future films will be able to replicate.
I don't know about that. The first movie in each SW has historically been the biggest, but even with a 25% dropoff subsequent films could reach $700 million. With inflation, $700 million could soon become the baseline for numbered SW films if it isn't already.
Were they? Oh man, this might be the most unpopular post in the history of GAF but I'm glad that didn't happen. I can't stand JP at all. That would've killed the movie for me.
I was surprised when they got Cumberbatch. He didn't strike me as the kind of guy who would want to get pinned down with a 6+ movie contract. Maybe it was that bit with Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner that made me think he felt a bit above it. Well, maybe he does (who cares, lol) but he can't argue with the exposure and money I guess.
I think we are on the cusp of $500M becoming the new $400M, and seeing more films break into the $600-700M range. We might not be there yet, but surely soon. I agree that Ep8 has a pretty good shot at $700M+ even with an expected sizable drop. An Age of Ultron drop is still $690M.
$900M on the other hand will require another perfect storm.
$900M on the other hand will require another perfect storm.
BadAss2961
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Well damn, can't say i'm surprised by the celebratory reaction -- even after it's already been a couple days to digest these results.
Anyway, the DCEU has begun.
Anyway, the DCEU has begun.
Gordon Shumway
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No chance. It being a third Avengers film makes that all but impossible. Quality or otherwise. You need the 75 year olds who pretty much never see movies theatrically as well as the 5 year olds to hit those kind of 900 mil numbers. There just isn't that sort of audience for a third Avengers film this deep into the MCU.
I think it had more to do with the fact that Star Wars fans watched the movie a ton of times each than it did with TFA reaching some huge swath of audience that doesn't exist for comic films.
Bobby posted an article about the third weekend being something crazy like two thirds repeat viewings. That's $60M in one weekend from fans catching the film for a second, third, or more time.
I don't think that any currently announced comic film will come close to $900M, but I also don't think TFA's audience was radically different.
That's true. That shows the importance of making a movie the audience actually really really likes. A lesson BvS is learning the hard way it seems. Name alone can get you opening weekend numbers. But if you make a fanboy movie fanboys actually like? That's the ticket right there.
I wouldn't count it out.
If they market it as the conclusion to all the films in the MCU thus far, and hype all the characters coming together from Guardians and both New and Original Avengers it will be a major, major event.
Add in some talk that Downey and a few others might make it their final bow in the MCU and that'll just add even more interest.
I'm really, really psyched for Infinity War, and if Civil War turns out great like I think it will the anticipation will only grow.
Has there been a single instance where that wasn't the case? Two films gross more than one of course but it always seems to cap the final total of each individual film lower than what one big film would do.
Potter
The one major exception that I can think of, but a good chunk of that was driven by the 3D/IMAX bump.
Being Part 1 of a two part movie hurt Deathly Hallows Part Part 1's gross I would say. It grossed less than Half-Blood Prince.
Didn't hurt Part 2 but if it was one big Deathly Hallows movie I think it could be argued it may have done better than part 2 did on its own.
Part One grossed more than HBP. Part Two grossed way more than both.
Its still the only exception period. Even films that split books seems to take a hit, like The Hobbit, which had zero growth in money to the original trilogy. Even with everything from inflation, 3D, and Imax taxed on.
broncobuster
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Strongest play is keeping the GotG crossover for Part 2
Another issue with Marvel is that running 2-3 films a year doesn't allow them to really stop and build up Infinity War as a big culminating arc of their universe.
We'll already be getting pre-production and filming hype for the first handful of Phase 4 films before Infinity War 2 even drops.
EDIT: It would be getting reports of the first few episodes of Game of Thrones S7 right now, even though S6 is weeks away.
We'll already be getting pre-production and filming hype for the first handful of Phase 4 films before Infinity War 2 even drops.
EDIT: It would be getting reports of the first few episodes of Game of Thrones S7 right now, even though S6 is weeks away.
I think it would be better to just call them two different movies instead of Part 1 and Part 2.
And have the intro consists of Groot, Starlord and Hulk dancing.
Doesn't seems to work for Divergent.
HBP grossed more. Double checked, 301 vs 295.
He was using WW numbers.
Escape Goat
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As long as Infinity War are 2 complete movies Im okay with it. Hunger Games tried to trick everyone and made 2 incomplete films.
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Works much better for Star Wars, LOTR, Pirates, and others. When the movies are direct sequels with very clear cliffhanger endings meant to resolve the previous films. It just seems like its a more tried and test method rather than Part 1 and Part 2. Which has really only succeeded for one film.
I also think its about the quality of the content. Detergent doesn't have any.
We were talking the context of Infinity Wars chance at 900 mil with it being split. It wouldn't have any relevance though.
Hunger Games suffers from bad source material though. The final book was such a colossal disappointment in the direction it took that I was hoping the movie would took a different route altogether. Sadly that didn't happen.
To be fair, a 2-3% variation between the late Potter films isn't all that significant. Competition, Summer vs Autumn and other factors explain the dips are rises. I don't think that DH1 was actually hurt by being the first of a two part finale. It just didn't get any big push.
Infinity War 1 may bounce back a bit from Age of Ultron if the reception is there, but I don't see how it grows the audience 50% over the first film. Ditto for Part 2.
My bad.
I think it can make that. It's already at $650 or so after two weeks.
RBelong2Us
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Yeah but it dropped a ridiculous amount between the two weeks. Like 69% in the states and over 65 international.
If it does it'll barely squeeze by
If it does it'll barely squeeze by
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The Divergent Series was never a big hit per se, not a good comparison, barely reaching $300M with the first entry doesn't give much wiggle room to Lions Gate if other entries falter (Allegiant - the book, wasn't well received either by fans).
Nah, word of mouth is crushing this movie. This thing is going to have no legs at all. Week 4 it'll be lucky to be in the top 3.
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