Wkd Box Office 04•01-03•16 - BvS has 'worse legs than Barbara Gordon' -- Sibersk Esto

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Dash_Riprock said:
You lost me a Superman representing "Christian Morality"

The "Supes is Jesus" thing only occurs because directors like Routh and especially Snyder aren't talented enough to go deeper so they just go with the easy, boring symbolism.

Fun Fact: The original creators of the Superman comic were Jewish.
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Pedant alert: Bryan Singer directed Superman Returns. Brandon Routh only played the character.
 
Sorry, was this posted anywhere?

‘Batman v Superman’ Seen Earning Less Profit Than Superman Alone
“Batman v Superman,” one of the most expensive films ever made, is on pace to produce a $278 million profit for Warner Bros. once home video, TV and merchandise proceeds are tallied, according to SNL Kagan analyst Wade Holden. That’s less than the estimated $300 million the studio earned from “Man Of Steel.” It’s also evidence that Warner Bros. has more work to do to make its DC Comics division the unbreakable superhero movie business it needs.
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Rymuth said:
Sorry, was this posted anywhere?

‘Batman v Superman’ Seen Earning Less Profit Than Superman Alone
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Man of Steel had strong home video sales.

Home video sales in general are pretty interesting. Hotel Transylvania 2 handily beat The Good Dinosaur at the box office last year. However, The Good Dinosaur's first week of DVD/Bluray sales in the US was higher than HT2's 10 week LTD total.
 
One critic who loved BvS is trying to spin the numbers as hard as he can.

Perhaps the Justice League-ish movies, in any form, isn’t fated to go toe-to-toe with Marvel’s Avengers team-up pictures. We won’t know for a year-and-change, and I’d prefer to be optimistic in terms of artistic and financial success. But not every franchise can be the kind that pops out $1 billion-worldwide hits every time out. Maybe audiences aren’t necessarily going to flock to the fifth modern live-action Batman and the third current Superman in record numbers any more than they (relatively speaking) flocked to the second version of Spider-Man. As Colin Hay sings, perhaps this is as good as it gets.
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The $250 million-budgeted comic book superhero sequel is seen as a disappointment because A) $1 billion worldwide has unfortunately become the new arbitrary benchmark for tentpole success, B) audiences aren’t rejoicing and the film is falling quickly, and C) we would like to believe in the idea that a better movie would have made even more money because otherwise why bother? But the presumption that a better/more crowd-pleasing Dawn of Justice was magically fated to top $400m domestic and $1.2b worldwide may be an inherently false one.
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And as far as domestic numbers, the only reason an over/under $350 million total feels disappointing is because Deadpool was so unexpectedly successful just a month earlier. But let’s step back a moment and offer another possibility: The Justice League franchise may be less like The Avengers and more like the Harry Potter or Twilight films. In other words, they have something of a ceiling, and at-this-point are merely playing to their die-hard fans to the relative exclusion of everyone else.
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Speaking theoretically, the DCEU having a “ceiling” of $350 million domestic and over/under $1 billion worldwide would be a very great thing indeed. But if they were mistaken to presume that Batman + Superman + Wonder Woman = $1.25-$1.6 billion on concept alone, then we may be just as mistaken to believe that a moderate course correction for Justice League Part 1 will then make up that extra few hundred million bucks.

Maybe the DCEU, in its current form, just isn’t going to end up among the top-tiers of franchise filmmaking because it was never going to. Not every would-be blockbuster hits $1 billion globally. This isn’t remotely the first incarnation of Batman or Superman that we’ve seen onscreen in recent years. Regarding comic book superhero movies, Dawn of Justice is still near the top of the pile.
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Some of the greatest spin I've ever read.
 
Knew it was gonna be Mendelson before I even clicked it.

edit: shit, right next to GOB's avatar, it's like he's the Bizarro-world version. Mirror Universe shit.
 
Every week day has had like a 65-78% drop off for BvS I feel like it's gonna be another bad weekend. Could it drop 70% AGAIN?
 
That article also preemptively excuses Justice League were it not to hit $1B (dat ceiling), but if it does, then it surpasses all expectations somehow.

Is $1B really that arbitrary a measure? Especially when 2 Batman movies already did that and we are talking about 2 of the most recognizable brands in a world where other stuff keeps sneaking into the $1B club?
 
Mendelson is like a guy who drinks the kool-aid, gets severely sick and spends months in the hospital but just survives, and then tells everyone else how good the kool-aid is.
 
What Mendelson is trying to say is that movies can only be so big. We can't expect audiences to spend the sort of cash on the first ever on screen team up of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman as they would on the Avengers, or Star Wars, or Zootopia, or Minions, or all of the Hobbit films, or the Fast and Furious films, or Iron Man, or Transformers, or Jurassic World, or Frozen, or even the last two Batman films for 4-8 years ago. That sort of money is clearly once in a generation.

Manmademan said:
Yep. Paid for clicks, not on the payroll
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They use him for all of their box office stuff.
 
Shocking news in the world of Deadline box office predictions!

It's looking like early Friday numbers are not aligning with the $27-28M (45-47% drop) that they were claiming as industry projections!?!

They are now saying $23.1M-25.6M (50-55% drop) is more likely, but without listing the Friday numbers, that is sort of useless.


I called $23M last Sunday, so I will stick with that.

EDIT: They currently have the Boss making $8M on Friday, and Hardcore Henry making $2.4M

EDIT2: Looks like Gitesh tweeted about his sources claiming a 60% drop for the film ($20.5M). That would be Watchmen and Green Lantern levels.
 
The only $100M+ openers that have made less than $20.5M in their third weekends were the Twilights, Deathly Hallows Pt 1, X-Men the Last Stand, Mockingjay Pt 2, and Transformers Age of Extinction.

Keeping in mind that BvS opened to $166M, while the last 4 films on that list opened between $100-125M.


BvS' first weekend was the 7th largest of all time.
BvS' second weekend was the 32nd largest of all time
A $20.5M weekend would be the 94th largest third weekend of all time


Granted, the film could end up doing better than $20.5M this weekend.


EDIT: We do sort of get a nice symmetry if we look at the same stats for Zootopia

First weekend was 72nd largest of all time
Second weekend was 31st largest
Third weekend was 9th largest

Zootopia's sixth weekend has a decent shot at topping The Force Awakens' sixth weekend.
 
So BvS will most likely come out 30m or so less than Deadpool in the states....lol


There's a legit chance it doesn't make as much as Spider-Man 3... well if you count inflation it definitely won't make as much.
 
Next time someone says movie X from mega-franchise Y that kills it in the box office only did so well because of its brand and fan hype, just point to BvS and shut them up.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Everything is proceeding exactly as I have foreseen.

Losing to a film called The Boss is rather fitting, though. We're in for a lot of headlines about Melissa McCarthy showing Superman who's boss.
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We just need a gif of her tackling Henry Cavill and we're set.

Does anyone know what The Boss was estimated to do for Friday? It's possible it's beating expectations but between nilephelan and Gitesh's comments I'm thinking BvS just didn't do well yesterday.
 
Afro Samurai said:
Batman vs Superman has a 7.3 User Score on Metacritic? That score seems a bit high.
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It also has 7.3 on IMDB and a 70% Audience Score on RT
Obviously fanboys are in full force. But if I'm true to myself the movie is a 7 or 6 if I were to give it a score. I actually enjoyed it, but it definitely has a lot of problems.
 
"Hundreds of scores" is putting it mildly.

BvS had 110k scores in RT before it was out (thousands in other sites like IMDB as well). It has gained only an additional ~80k scores since then. They are completely unreliable (as are most fanboy driven movies I would guess). It wouldn't surprise me to see similar behavior with Civil War scores.
 
If after this film DC get is together after this and we finally get consistently great films from here on out, will the sins of the past be somewhat forgiven? I just want to honestly know. Because it seems that this could be an interesting world that they could play with. And with the right amount of character development in the overarching narrative, most of the issues with the portrayals with Batman and Superman could be erased.
 
Ross61 said:
If after this film DC get is together after this and we finally get consistently great films from here on out, will the sins of the past be somewhat forgiven? I just want to honestly know. Because it seems that this could be an interesting world that they could play with. And with the right amount of character development in the overarching narrative, most of the issues with the portrayals with Batman and Superman could be erased.
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I think the fans are always willing to forgive sins of the past, especially with beloved characters like Batman and Superman.

The problem is they're pushing forward with Snyder, it seems. So it's not likely any of these "sins" will be addressed. At least not any time soon.

Maybe with the solo Batman film directed by Affleck.
 
Ross61 said:
If after this film DC get is together after this and we finally get consistently great films from here on out, will the sins of the past be somewhat forgiven? I just want to honestly know. Because it seems that this could be an interesting world that they could play with. And with the right amount of character development in the overarching narrative, most of the issues with the portrayals with Batman and Superman could be erased.
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They could've delivered on that tone well. They just didn't.

If Justice League brings the fire, they're all good in my book. Won't wash away the errors here, but it doesn't need to really.
 
Ross61 said:
If after this film DC get is together after this and we finally get consistently great films from here on out, will the sins of the past be somewhat forgiven? I just want to honestly know. Because it seems that this could be an interesting world that they could play with. And with the right amount of character development in the overarching narrative, most of the issues with the portrayals with Batman and Superman could be erased.
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There's nothing to forgive. Just make good movies and people like me will go and ask their friends to go as well. The barrier for us isn't that high it's all about the buzz.

Like I just recently saw Zootopia only based around the buzz and the 1 trailer I saw of that movie in the theater a while back was forgettable and looked pretty stupid to me.
 
Ross61 said:
If after this film DC get is together after this and we finally get consistently great films from here on out, will the sins of the past be somewhat forgiven? I just want to honestly know. Because it seems that this could be an interesting world that they could play with. And with the right amount of character development in the overarching narrative, most of the issues with the portrayals with Batman and Superman could be erased.
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It will be forgotten instantly. They were on top of the world with Nolan because the films were great. Compare that to now.... We will all forgive and move on as soon as the movies get good. I'm expecting Suicide Squad to spearhead that.
 
Cipherr said:
It will be forgotten instantly. They were on top of the world with Nolan because the films were great. Compare that to now.... We will all forgive and move on as soon as the movies get good. I'm expecting Suicide Squad to spearhead that.
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Exactly. No one gives a shit if the movie is actually good. No one watched Batman Begins and thought "it was good but man, fuck them for the Schumacher films"
 
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