Nintendo's FY 2016 has officially begun - The Year of NX

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Spirit Icana said:
Now, to bring this to topic about NX. I hate to say it, but Studio Ghibli is not that mainstream. Not to blockbuster level, at any rate. I say the probability of Final Fantasy XV outperforming Zelda NX is high, based on presentation and not just the fact that PS4 is already a solid hit. FF XV will help keep the PS4 running. Will Zelda NX help NX get off the ground? I doubt it, unless the tone shifts to something more akin to LoTR/OoT/TP's reveal trailer, or some kinda of breakthrough elsewhere.

I'd argue NX could very well be a hit, and Zelda NX could very well sell no better than SS did, while having NX's whole life span to sell.

Summary: Masses wanted TP. Masses didn't care much for SS. Masses don't care much for Zelda U/NX at this time.

I still think Zelda has potential to grow bigger than TP/OoT though. If it ever will remains to be seen.
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Saying Zelda U doesn't appeal to the masses with its artstyle while FFXV does with its boy band looking protags seems ironic. I think both will end up selling between 4-7 million copies.

LegendofLex said:
Zelda no longer being especially inspired by Western fantasy/RPGs doesn't change that that's where the series came from, and moreover "Zelda stopped doing ______ a long time ago" is a really weird argument to make when even the creators of the series are behaving as though they need to change what they've been doing lately.

I mean, that's like looking at Wii U and saying "Nintendo stopped trying to compete in consoles a long time ago" and then trying to pass that off as though Nintendo should be praised for making consoles that are unappealing. I don't think anyone is thinking about NX in any other terms than how well it succeeds at fixing all the problems that Wii U had; likewise, I'd imagine Nintendo is trying to think about Zelda in terms of how well it succeeds at fixing all the problems people had with the other recent games - including outright disinterest.
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I had a response halfway typed up but after eating supper and watching some basketball, I lost my train of thought and cannot even see what you are arguing here so I'm just going to try and stop you from continuing this stupidity. Zelda has never been Tolkien-inspired like the series you want it to copy and that's never going to change. Doing so would not make the series better or pump out sequels faster or bring it back to the forefront of the gaming industry which was the entire crux of your argument until I replied to you. The only 3D game that had outright disinterest was WW and we will never get a game with that cartoony style again. SS was a different situation that had way more going against it than its artstyle so it shouldn't be brought up unless you want to be openly disingenuous.

The series needed to make some changes to keep from becoming stale which was bound to happen after being on the market for 30 years. Copying every other adventure game/RPG with a sword is not going to help the series in the long term.
 
FFXV is totally not coming to any Nintendo hardware in 2016 (calling it) and even if it doesn't quite meet expectations, Nomura's designs have time and again been proven to sell in the West in the past 20 years.

Talking about turn of the millennium band styles won't affect anything, Nomura designs can sell. Zelda designs can too as we've seen over and over again as well.

Maybe we're just trying too hard
When really it's closer than it is too far
 
Angry Chair said:
The only 3D game that had outright disinterest was WW and we will never get a game with that cartoony style again. SS was a different situation that had way more going against it than its artstyle so it shouldn't be brought up unless you want to be openly disingenuous.
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Four Swords? (+Adventures?) (Not 3D)
Minish Cap? (Not 3D)
Phantom Hourglass?
Spirit Tracks?
Triforce Heroes?
Hyrule Warriors Legends? (Okay, that's just an homage)

The art style isn't dead, and continues to get used.

The only "3D" Zelda games (to the point I know you're getting at) that shared graphical assets or similar styles were Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. They have taken a different art direction for every Zelda game in that gameplay style, with the argument that MM was more of a thematic art style than graphical direction. It doesn't mean they won't use that style again for a main console entry. It just means they'd rather continue to experiment, as they always do. I wouldn't put the success or failure of a Zelda game on why it changes its art style.
 
Hard to believe the Nintendo/IBM era was announced almost 17 years ago.

https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/2181.wss

Funny that it says 400 MHz. I do remember reading rumours that IBM went above and beyond what Nintendo was expecting with Gekko, and of course it was a lot easier for devs than the R4300i in the N64.

It's an era that needed to end at some point though, especially since Nintendo never used any of their more modern designs.
 
Spirit Icana said:
Oh, so N Sync then! : P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQMlWwIXg3M
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Pfffffffff this one is much better!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZcmuKsyvzg

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ReyVGM said:
And once we do hear about it, we still have to wait 3-5 months for the system to come out.
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That's not as bad though. Waiting to hear any type of info of this top secret NX is way harder than it will be waiting for it to release.

I just want to know about the games and see what new experiences they've come up with. I want to see the brand new 3D Mario and see Zelda U/NX and everything it offers.
 
Dark Cloud said:
That's not as bad though. Waiting to hear any type of info of this top secret NX is way harder than it will be waiting for it to release.

I just want to know about the games and see what new experiences they've come up with. I want to see the brand new 3D Mario and see Zelda U/NX and everything it offers.
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I can't believe we only get 5s of Zelda U/NX since Game Award 2014. It is time to give us a full-blown reveal, Ninty!
 
Neoxon said:
That still doesn't cover the potential for Nintendo to get overshadowed or for there not being enough time to get the hype to permeate the mainstream.
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Yes, I'm aware. In fact I expected this response because you usually do it almost like a copy-and-paste :p

I don't think this is a real problem, actually. The PS4K and the supposed X1.5 are not a sure thing for this year and even if they make an appearance, they're just revisions of existing consoles. I think I read somewhere Sony even won't make PS4K exclusive titles. Besides, those consoles are apparently launching next year, people will hype the closest releases. The PSVR is a closer competitor for this E3 and this is "just" an unproven expensive peripheral and don't forget the people can't experience it if they're not in Sony's booth.

If the PSVR and the new revisions overshadows NX this E3, being a completely new console, supposedly full of new exclusive games, a new brand concept, and the culmination of years of internal work and restructuring at Nintendo, then the NX is not that good and won't matter if they show it tomorrow or at the Expo, IMO.

You also keep saying again and again about the "time to get the hype" and I don't get it, honestly. The hype will get out the roof (if the games are there and they're good) in a matter of hours/days. And then, Nintendo will just need to keep the hype doing mini Directs across the summer. In fact, even if they show the console today, if the product isn't good, the hype won't be there. Keep in mind even the years that Nintendo kinda screws E3, many people believes they're the "winners" just because some games or the presentation. It's easy the get it right: Nintendo just needs to do the opposite of E3 2012 lol.

Anyway, I hope I'm wrong and they show the console and games before E3 and don't do it staged across the summer, but I sincerely doubt it. I'll gladly eat crown though :D
 
zaldrizes said:
You think Playstation and Xbox are lazy?
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"Nintendo Entertainment System" or "NES" is the brand of 80s, the brand of its era. Sure, it's nostalgic, but only in 80s it wasn't out of place to use three-word abbreviations as a name of your product. Even Nintendo got that, beginning to phase out words "Entertainment System" in SNES and getting rid of them entirely with Nintendo 64.

Something along the lines of "GameCube" would work better as a multi-generation brand - it looks and sounds cool, it has two syllables, it's non-specific but unique, and it involves gaming. Although, after Wii U, I don't think Nintendo will be trying to make multi-generation console brand any time soon.
 
DownGrader said:
Something along the lines of "GameCube" would work better as a multi-generation brand - it looks and sounds cool, it has two syllables, it's non-specific but unique, and it involves gaming. Although, after Wii U, I don't think Nintendo will be trying to make multi-generation console brand any time soon.
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I actually think Nintendo may indeed try to make a multi-generation brand again. Wii U was only their only mistake, naming wise, on the home console side. Their handheld branding has been pretty successful though, bar 3DS I suppose.

And with the talk of future systems sharing a similar architecture, I would assume they would go for a multi-gen branding, similar to iPhone and/or Galaxy.
 
LegendofLex said:
If NX really is a "new concept," and really will have a large pipeline of games, I'm not really sure how they can compress both the reveal for the console and the games in an hour-long presentation while doing either much justice.

Forget specs, release dates, etc. - it's going to be important that no one walk away confused by the new concept, and it's going to be just as important that they showcase as many games as possible in the most exciting way possible.
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They don't have to show off all the games in the initial presentation. They have Treehouse Live for that.
 
I know the DS wasn't actually revealed until E3 2004, but surely Nintendo wouldn't do that with the NX. The GBA was only 3 years old at the time which probably played into that decision, because generally Nintendo announces hardware WAY in advance.
 
EleventhHourSuperpower said:
I know the DS wasn't actually revealed until E3 2004, but surely Nintendo wouldn't do that with the NX. The GBA was only 3 years old at the time which probably played into that decision, because generally Nintendo announces hardware WAY in advance.
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the ds was announced in january of 2004 though. up until now, that's been their shortest turnaround time between announcement and launch. second closest might actually be 3ds (march 2010 announcement and february 2011 launch).
 
What gets released on this week's date (apart from the Q&A and any slides)? Is it only the final financial results for the past fiscal year or does it also include complete expectations (hardware, software, revenue, etc.) for the upcoming fiscal year?

I know there's a big shareholders event in June, so I can't remember if we'll get complete expectations for the upcoming year this week or if that doesn't happen until that June meeting.
 
That´s 9 am for me and at work. God dammit.

Eh, reading Gaf at work is what i do anyway lol.

Will await any info whatsoever. Anything other than "we´re working on a new platform with the codename NX and we´ll talk about it at a later date".

If we get more than that, i´m happy.
 
kirbyfan407 said:
What gets released on this week's date (apart from the Q&A and any slides)? Is it only the final financial results for the past fiscal year or does it also include complete expectations (hardware, software, revenue, etc.) for the upcoming fiscal year?
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Both financial results & projections for next year. Their NX forecast may be lumped in with Wii U for now if they follow the precedent that they did with 3DS and Wii U.

The Q&A/slides/investors briefing is the following day in Japan (Thursday).
 
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if there's nothing tomorrow, there will be at the briefing

if not there, maybe in may

and then E3

I waited this long

I can wait some more
 
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