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Uncharted 4 - A Thief's |Reviews Thread| Nateness Awaits

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I read the Eurogamer review for some reason, I really don't like how the guy tries to claim past Uncharted games are all about the surface with nothing under Neath, that is incredibly reductive and down plays the brilliant level design, pacing and encounters the series has produced. Frankly it's bullshit.
The combat encounters along with the weak AI are some of the worst parts of previous Uncharted games. Many reviews criticsed previous Uncharted games for their predictable killboxes and just wanted to get past that tedium to get to the storytelling. Even The Last Of Us was railed in this department.
 
Fucking moron. Quantum Break is a joke game. Couldn't finish it.

UC4 is in a different league altogether.
Couldn't disagree more.

I absolutely loved the hell out of Quantum Break. I do think Uncharted 4 is the better game, no doubt, but that doesn't take anything away from QB.

It's a shame you didn't enjoy it but calling it a "joke game"? That's a bit harsh, don't you think? The core gunplay is really damn good.

The combat encounters along with the weak AI are some of the worst parts of previous Uncharted games. Many reviews criticsed previous Uncharted games for their predictable killboxes and just wanted to get past that tedium to get to the storytelling. Even The Last Of Us was railed in this department.
I kinda feel like they took this complaint to heart TOO much with UC4. There's just barely enough combat here for my tastes because the combat itself is so much better than before. There is a LOT of down time here. It's awesome the first time through but trying to replay it really highlights this to me.
 
Well, review scores are like shithead magnets.

Well, UC4 is a bragging point.

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What's with the 'junior' comment...seriously I t's so patronising. A dumb comment is a dumb comment regardless of who wrote it.

You were once a junior -- there's nothing better about being a member. You're not anymore elite than him.

He registered in 2013 and it's still a junior. I'm going to go ahead that it's for a reason.
 
Jim and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of things, like Dynasty Warriors and Deadly Premonition.

But I'm not sure about this one.
Why? You think the game is going to be worse cause last I checked 8.5 is a really good score.

If this thread starts breaking down into console wars this will be a graveyard. You guys should just be careful and let your heads cool off again. It is Zelda 8.8 all over again.
 
Dumb narrative lol. Dumb enough that the idea has spread to the mainstream as a joke about Drake being a mass murderer. Done with this conversation.

What conversation? You presented exactly zero arguments. Uncharted is not the only game receiving such criticisms, and Tomb Raider doesn't get a pass. This is factually correct. Yes, it's a dumb narrative that you actually think that Uncharted is the only game getting that criticism somehow.


Whose salty about Jim's review? His stupid opening just got called out for what it is.

You can just check all the people in this thread calling is review invalid because they don't agree with his views. People are salty as fuck that their precious game got a 8.5.
 
I like to think of stepping into Uncharted as being the same as stepping into a reality distortion field. Things don't make sense if you look at it closely, and for some people this is ignorable, and for others it isn't. Why do people disagree? Because of 1) differences in priority and 2) how much they'd like Uncharted on graphics and gameplay alone. Simple as that.

Also, once you get into an argument or lambasted in brick tons of negative comments by members of the fanbase that will deride you for thinking negatively of the series in any way that's related to ludonarrative dissonance or etc., it's hard NOT to just suspend your disbelief and not take it seriously while constructing a personal opinion about it in preparation for a public review, no?

Either way, I forgive Uncharted and am on that "let's go with the psycopathy" boat because I just like the way Naughty Dog does it. That's all. Their characters don't repel me because my persoinal preferences tolerate what they do and I think Uncharted has solidly cliche, self-aware writing, and thus allow the violent gameplay to complement, rather than set back, the story. It comes down to the person in the end; it's not just this opinion's stupid, this opinion's not as stupid. Depending on the reasoning, yes, an opinion can be stupid -- but as long as we remember there are always reasons, no matter how different.
 
The combat encounters along with the weak AI are some of the worst parts of previous Uncharted games. Many reviews criticsed previous Uncharted games for their predictable killboxes and just wanted to get past that tedium to get to the storytelling. Even The Last Of Us was railed in this department.

Weak AI? The hell? I always used to get flushed out of cover and enemies use to react to my position in the older Uncharteds. And you say many reviews this or that. Like, which reviews 'called out the gameplay and just wanted to get to the story telling'. I think you're being selective.

Hell, off the top of my head, TLoU's positives on IGN's 10 was its gameplay. It's clear you're not fond of the games as shown by your posts ITT (at least the gameplay), and that's cool, no problem with that, I ain't hating, but I think you're exaggerating a little. At worst the gameplay is serviceable. Again, I don't disagree entirely, but I think you're overstating it -- they're not that bad lol.
 
He registered in 2013 and it's still a junior. I'm going to go ahead that it's for a reason.

And....??

That's not helping your argument. Maybe he doesn't like to post too much (he only has 190 posts). He's being a junior member is not a excuse for being condescending.

You want to call him out that's fair, that post was shameful, but attack what makes sense.
 
Really?

Show me the wealth of 'Murder Simulator' memes tied to Tomb Raider like it is for Uncharted... I will wait patiently.

Does it have that criticism of her being so savage? Yes, but not nearly a staple dead horse meme for over 5 years like Uncharted is. And it was mostly started as a Lara Too™ thing as well, since nobody really brought it up for any game, like they do with Uncharted.

I agree that the the Uncharted series is joked/spoke of more in regards to this than the TR reboot.

That's probably because it's been around longer and for the RoTR the talk was more about A small vocal portion of Sony fanboys whining then subsequently laughing at its sales. That took the stage for its attacks from detractors and people just trying to stir the pot in general.

All of this said its obvious UC4 is a great game and is getting a boatload of respect overall.

No reason to take things so personally
 
Sounds lame tbh. Nobody else at Naughty Dog has any vision or talent? I don't buy that.

Never actually said that... If you think about it, Neil and Bruce have reach a point where not many directors will, and Sony may be able to exploit that so they have better odds at making more great, financially successful games.

Not saying that's what it's going to happen, but if you were on Sony's shoes, wouldn't you want those two in charge of ND's upcoming games? Specially now since ND has possibly become their biggest studio and one which people relate to Playstation the most.

Considering the point where ND is at right now, would you take a chance with unproven talent to direct a major AAA game?
 
I don't get why the QB and UC4 reviews are getting compared directly to each other just because they got the same score.

Ideally, a game should be judged based on how well it accomplishes what it sets out to do. Two 8.5's aren't equal.

It's how Roger Ebert could give Toy Story and Schindler's List four stars despite them being wildly different in tone, plot and created in different ways.
 
Why? You think the game is going to be worse cause last I checked 8.5 is a really good score.

If this thread starts breaking down into console wars this will be a graveyard. You guys should just be careful and let your heads cool off again. It is Zelda 8.8 all over again.

I wasn't aware I was getting heated?
 
What conversation? You presented exactly zero arguments. Uncharted is not the only game receiving such criticisms, and Tomb Raider doesn't get a pass. This is factually correct. Yes, it's a dumb narrative that you actually think that Uncharted is the only game getting that criticism somehow.

You can just check all the people in this thread calling is review invalid because they don't agree with his views. People are salty as fuck that their precious game got a 8.5.

Holy shit, you need to calm down and stop making things out to be what you want it to be.

Name and shame if you are so certain. I seen nobody complain really about the 8.5, but rather the stupid juvenile comment about 'mass murderer'.

And he did present arguments... show us the mass amount of threads that pop up once every 2 months, YES that often, about Drake being a 'mass murderer' for Lara...

Waiting...

I do not disagree that people call her out now in the threads, but she is NOT tied to the 'meme'. Give it a rest.
 
People really trying hard for this and I have no idea why.

It's really quite sad.

LMAO

Way to prove his point Junior

He registered in 2013 and it's still a junior. I'm going to go ahead that it's for a reason.

You're a piece of work you know that?

What conversation? You presented exactly zero arguments. Uncharted is not the only game receiving such criticisms, and Tomb Raider doesn't get a pass. This is factually correct. Yes, it's a dumb narrative that you actually think that Uncharted is the only game getting that criticism somehow.

lol Opinions of a game are factually correct now? Please show me where this idea that TR is lauded as a murder simulator is as prevalent as in the UC series. I'll be waiting forever because you can't. I never said that UC is the only game. I said why does it seem like UC is the only game when there exists such a "disconnect" with TR as well. In any case, judging by this response and your condescension throughout this conversation, I will be putting you on ignore.
 
And....??

That's not helping your argument. Maybe he doesn't like to post too much (he only has 190 posts). He's being a junior member is not a excuse for being condescend.

You want to call him out that's fair, that post was shameful, but attack what makes sense.

The reason for me quoting his shitpost is because he made a shitpost. I'm not randomly quoting any junior post am I?

It's really quite sad.





You're a piece of work you know that?



lol Opinions of a game are factually correct now? Please show me where this idea that TR is lauded as a murder simulator is as prevalent as in the UC series. I'll be waiting forever because you can't. I never said that UC is the only game. I said why does it seem like UC is the only game when there exists such a "disconnect" with TR as well. In any case, judging by this response and your condescension throughout this conversation, I will be putting you on ignore.


LMAO. I like that you literally have no idea whatsoever if what you're talking about.
Tomb Raider doesn't get a pass - factually correct
Uncharted is not the only getting this type of criticisms- factually correct


None of the things I said are a matter of opinion; they are facts. And lmao at trying to backtrack and say "huh i didnt say it was the only one just that it feel like it was the only one" LMAO
 
The reason for me quoting his shitpost is because he made a shitpost. I'm not randomly quoting any junior post am I?

You called him out for being one, so you're clearly insinuating something. Stop with the mental gymnastics dude -- he made a dumb comment, you made a dumb condescending attack. Just move on.
 
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