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Uncharted 4 - A Thief's |Reviews Thread| Nateness Awaits

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TR encounters are like 5-6 dudes usually, Uncharted sometimes had you fighting well over a dozen. Plus Lara is freaking out, while Drake seems unphased. To add to that, the new TRs are M rated so it isn't sanitized "get hit and fall down" violence, which can ironically be more off-putting because death seems more trivial.

I like both games, but I think TR handles this aspect better for the most part.

Quoting my previous post:

With UC though , I do find the whole mass-murderer complaint to be mostly overblown. 1) Unlike these Superhero movies where saving the world/innocent people is the protaganist's main goal, Uncharted's main narrative pull takes on a more self-aggrandizing approach. It's a fun globe-trotting adventure that focuses more on the glitz of TREASURE, THIEVERY & oooh some possibly LONG-LOST CIVILISATION thrown into the mix. The emphasis throughout the game on the importance of the self's own indulgent desires in turn, de-emphasizes the whole morality issue. Similarly, it's the aame reason why people don't think twice about how immoral it might be for Indiana Jones to just keep mowing down whatever mooks that he's facing.
 
Listening to the IGN Beyond impressions of UC4 by Andrew, Brian and Marty...

Interesting. They liked it, but don't share the broad consensus that this is far and away the best Uncharted, citing their dislike of the length, pacing issues from the length. And also some implication that maybe UC4 would've benefited from deeper mechanics like TLoU-style brick/bottle stealth options, broader mechanics ala Tomb Raider, etc.
 
Nice scores, I actually managed to predict the score this time, assuming it stays at 94. I like the Gamespot review, wasn't expecting a 10 after the reviewer said the game made him want to watch Indiana Jones all day, but I guess that can be a compliment too.

I fell asleep an hour before the reviews hit last night, but it was nice to wake up to this thread.
 
I suspect a lot of the Quantum Break bashing comes from people who haven't even played it, given the platforms. Also layer on people who haven't even played UC4 saying it's the better game = people who haven't played either deciding based upon multi trillion dollar corporate loyalty.
One example is: The difference between Quantum Break and Uncharted is 77% vs. 94% on Metacritic.
So a lot of people have played it, as you can see.
And now please stop talking about QB here. This thread is about Uncharted 4.
 
I haven't read anything but this last page and I see people talking about Quantum Break and this game being comparable. I beat QB last week and I beat UC4 last night and there is simply no comparison to make. Even at its lowest point UC4 is an infinitely better game from every angle: story, characters, gameplay, and graphics.

I'm happy to see the high scores here. It's well-deserved and I hope they make another one!
 
Listening to the IGN Beyond impressions of UC4 by Andrew, Brian and Marty...

Interesting. They liked it, but don't share the broad consensus that this is far and away the best Uncharted, citing their dislike of the length, pacing issues from the length. And also some implication that maybe UC4 would've benefited from deeper mechanics like TLoU-style brick/bottle stealth options, broader mechanics ala Tomb Raider, etc.
Not sure that would work out to well for Drake using brisks and bottles lol.
 
I saw this coming as soon as I read it. Junior shaming is a big no no.
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One thing I can't stand is pretending to be above the confrontations you invite.

In regards to his review, I don't mind if he mentions "ludonarrative dissonance" or the "serial killer" argument or whatever you want to call it. But if you are going to dock a game for it, be consistent with all your reviews. Holding a game to higher standards is not something a reviewer should be doing.

Care to point to where Jim hasn't been consistent exactly?
 
Did Jim Sterling really bring up that tired, old, stupid argument about Nathan Drake the serial killer? I don't care about the score he gave UC4, I think it's a great score, but starting a review off with that just puts a bad taste in my mouth from the beginning.
 
It's hard to find non-spoilery pictures in my massive collection of photos, but here's one:


I think people aren't ready to see how amazing this game looks in person. Official media didn't do it justice.

This is from a cut scene right?

Amazing either way.
 
I haven't read anything but this last page and I see people talking about Quantum Break and this game being comparable. I beat QB last week and I beat UC4 last night and there is simply no comparison to make. Even at its lowest point UC4 is an infinitely better game from every angle: story, characters, gameplay, and graphics.

I'm happy to see the high scores here. It's well-deserved and I hope they make another one!

You shithead magnet! Or shit... or head... or is it magnet... wait... which one would you be. Can Jim elaborate? How do they work?

Ok I will stop, lol.

I am so stoked. Opening up the PS4 tomorrow, cleaning it out, installed larger and faster HDD, and will be ready for this (and DOOM) next week.
 
Not sure that would work out to well for Drake using brisks and bottles lol.

I think the gist of it is that they feel the game is too long for its game design (very story-focused) and that because the game is consciously a game that chose to not have a very deep mechanics layer on it, the game can feel repetitive on its puzzle, traversal, combat loop when there's no extra stuff like RPG mechanics or new puzzle mechanics, or whatever.

It's a difference of expectations, I guess. They expected, after games like TR & ROTR, that UC may probably adopt a denser layer of gameplay mechanics?
 
Did Jim Sterling really bring up that tired, old, stupid argument about Nathan Drake the serial killer? I don't care about the score he gave UC4, I think it's a great score, but starting a review off with that just puts a bad taste in my mouth from the beginning.

Being tired and old doesn't make it any less relevant. If it was a problem before, it's still a problem now.

If you know it doesn't bother you, I'm not sure why what Jim thinks about it matters to you.
 
Listening to the IGN Beyond impressions of UC4 by Andrew, Brian and Marty...

Interesting. They liked it, but don't share the broad consensus that this is far and away the best Uncharted, citing their dislike of the length, pacing issues from the length. And also some implication that maybe UC4 would've benefited from deeper mechanics like TLoU-style brick/bottle stealth options, broader mechanics ala Tomb Raider, etc.
Can't please everybody, with every decision. Colin from Kinda Funny thought adding in new mechanics was a negative to the game. Specifically he pointed to the rope saying "Drake couldn't do this before, why can he all of a sudden do it now?"
 
Did Jim Sterling really bring up that tired, old, stupid argument about Nathan Drake the serial killer? I don't care about the score he gave UC4, I think it's a great score, but starting a review off with that just puts a bad taste in my mouth from the beginning.

It's objectively true that Drake kills a lot of people in the games, so basing a subjective opinion on that is fine. I, and many others don't agree with him but that doesn't make the argument "tired, old and stupid."
 
The 8.8 isn't being added because the review is still in progress. Even Metacritic hasn't added it yet because of that.

Metacritic actually has a separate "Reviews in Progress" section now, I don't know how long ago they started doing that, but it's pretty recently.

Ars Technica, CNET, IGN, Shacknews, and AV Club are all listed as still in progress.
 
Care to point to where Jim hasn't been consistent exactly?

I will bite... he did not open the RoTTR Review with that line, in which you claim Lara receives the same amount of criticism for...

;)

You are welcome.

It's objectively true that Drake kills a lot of people in the games, so basing a subjective opinion on that is fine. I, and many others don't agree with him but that doesn't make the argument "tired, old and stupid."

It is subjective not objective... because what one calls murder, another will call self defense.
 
I don't really know who this guy is. I've heard his name being tossed about but is this how he usually reacts when people don't agree with his opinion by calling them shitheads? If so, I'm glad I don't know who he is.

you may remember him from that one gif of a guy licking a PS4
 
Can't please everybody, with every decision. Colin from Kinda Funny thought adding in new mechanics was a negative to the game. Specifically he pointed to the rope saying "Drake couldn't do this before, why can he all of a sudden do it now?"

Man that's such a silly complaint. It's game design, he couldn't do it before because it wasn't in the game. They gonna complain that since the gunplay is better now why couldn't Nate shoot better before?
 
Can't please everybody, with every decision. Colin from Kinda Funny thought adding in new mechanics was a negative to the game. Specifically he pointed to the rope saying "Drake couldn't do this before, why can he all of a sudden do it now?"

Ah dammit, this breaks my theory that Drake in Uncharted 4 is actually Tenzin who had facial reconstruction surgery to look like Nathan Drake.

Shit.
 
This guy just seems to stir up controversy over nothing just so he can build an audience. His act is getting old now.

If you check the last page you can see that he's still at the top of his game.
 
Can't please everybody, with every decision. Colin from Kinda Funny thought adding in new mechanics was a negative to the game. Specifically he pointed to the rope saying "Drake couldn't do this before, why can he all of a sudden do it now?"

That's one nitpicky-ass nitpick, Jesus.
 
Can't please everybody, with every decision. Colin from Kinda Funny thought adding in new mechanics was a negative to the game. Specifically he pointed to the rope saying "Drake couldn't do this before, why can he all of a sudden do it now?"
Lol thats pretty odd complaint.

Its like sometimes we forget that these are videogames :)
 
Wow! Overwhelming critical praise with not one mixed review so far, a 9 from Polygon, a 10 from GiantBomb and 10 from Gamespot - this is getting better reviews than I realistically thought possible for an Uncharted in 2016. Just goes to show how talented ND is and how much of an improvement this game must be mechanically to have achieved such gushing from critics who seem to be more nit picky this generation.
Don't get me wrong I loved the previous two Uncharted's and think they still hold up well. Its just the general trend of lower scoring games and an aversion for cinematic AAA games that had me sceptical about some of the more higher MC predictions made by some of you. Glad to have been proven wrong.

No doubt this game is going to be one of the games of the generation. People will point to it as one of the absolute high points and wax lyrical about it in years to come!
 
That's my point, and why I specifically said "killing" instead of either of those.

Ah, yes, you are correct... however in context to what Jim was echoing...

Can't please everybody, with every decision. Colin from Kinda Funny thought adding in new mechanics was a negative to the game. Specifically he pointed to the rope saying "Drake couldn't do this before, why can he all of a sudden do it now?"

Do not add new things to my games, thanks.

As if people do not evolve what they can do in real life.

And technically he did swing on things like vines... so he evolved his craft some. ;)

Dear lord

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It is like a nightmare version of Jessica Chobot.
 
Can't please everybody, with every decision. Colin from Kinda Funny thought adding in new mechanics was a negative to the game. Specifically he pointed to the rope saying "Drake couldn't do this before, why can he all of a sudden do it now?"

What a stupid criticism, god damn. Can't introduce shit in that case if he hasn't done it already.
 
I will bite... he did not open the RoTTR Review with that line, in which you claim Lara receives the same amount of criticism for...

;)

You are welcome.



It is subjective not objective... because what one calls murder, another will call self defense.

You gotta have to point where I said that a) I said they had the same ammount of criticism and b) That each and every reviewer that complains about it on one game has complained about it on the other.

Btw, Jim said in his review that the game still suffered of dissonance, just not as much as the previous game did (TR2013)

salty people happened.
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