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Uncharted 4 - A Thief's |Reviews Thread| Nateness Awaits

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I will admit I expected some "attention whoring" 6 or 7 to crop up. Game is HUGE profile release of a series some seemed tired of or were never really into, so it seemed ripe for a couple/few reviews going that way. No way would I consider 8-9 reviews attention whoring though.

Maybe someone might give it a 6 or 7 because they liked it less than the people giving it higher scores.
 
I see what you are saying, but the E3 2014 trailer looks better for whatever reason. The hair looks better for whatever reason. There is very little bounce lighting for whatever reason. The gouges look more realistic for whatever reason. For whatever reason we will never be able to see the E3 2014 "realtime" 60FPS trailer running on our Playstation 4.

You know what the reason is... it was a target, a target that did not have the physics, AI, and all other calculations taken into account. Also, the background textures/geometry, etc., are not as good as the final game which adds to the load.

They wanted the cut-scenes captured entirely in-engine, to not be that much different than the gameplay.

It is quite an impressive feat at the time at 60fps, and in no way a 'render' or 'cgi' or a 'farm of PS4's'. It was a closed target on a single PS4, which has been repeated by the developer/coder herself.

Maybe someone might give it a 6 or 7 because they liked it less than the people giving it higher scores.

You give human beings too much credit to be so honest with not only themselves, but to other people. Especially gamer human beings.

There are some games where the problem is the person, not the game.
 
When was 7 ever a great score in videogame reviews?

The '90s.

Maybe not your definition of "great", but certainly "well worth your money".

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that's fine, I've got no issue with it, just trying to illustrate that the supposed "shitposts" that a certain poster has been calling out aren't actually that shitty

Some of them were dumb, and there was one that i would call really shitty. But as a whole it was like the standard review thread.
 
How can anyone judge these review scores without having played the game?

This might be another Fallout 4 / MGSV where a large portion of the players ended up thinking that the high scores were actually too flattering.

Who knows, someone criticising Sterling right now might actually come to agree with him.

I'm disagreeing with Jim's review in parts, especially regarding story and I've played the game.
 
Going to start by giving thanks to Amy Hennig. For laying the groundwork and giving us three great games.

I remember when Druckmann and Straley took over there was a lot of worry about the quality of the game and how it would turn out with the shift in development. There should have never been a worry. After TLOU they've proven what they can do.

Not only that but ND just oozes quality. It's in their DNA. Glad this game is scoring well but either way I was hyped for it day one. I await ANYTHING this studio puts out.

I hope a former Naughty Dog employee eventually contacts, say, Kotaku and offers some extensive insight into how the two visions for the game differ (Nolan North confirmed that the project was rebooted after Hennig's departure).
 
That's exactly what he asked.

It's definitely NOT "exactly what he asked":

"Here is my question. Is it the best Uncharted or atleast better than 3 and 1"?

The answer - reviewers (not all) are saying that it is better than all (even if some don't). He didn't ask about reviewers - I brought them up. Shouldn't require this much thought.
 
Talking about contrarian reviews, we still don't have the Quarter to Three review, right?

It can take this thread to the place many are anticipating.
 
I've seen more than one post stating that the Sterling and IGN reviews were lower than the average simply because they wanted attention.

I stated more or less that Jim was "seeking attention"

Not that he purposefully lowered his score but by comparing it to Quantum Break but then the follow up tweet along with it.

The Sony/Uncharted fanbase has many passionate members in it and by comparing it to the last "major" XB1 exclusive then the tweet to take a jab at them......he knows exactly what he was doing.

His score might be sincere but the other comments were for the attention IMO
 
Wow, it actually looks basically the same imo. I think the cinematic angle of the first shot make it look more appealing and realistic, but otherside it honestly looks the same to me. Cant believe they managed to do it. I guess the various "best graphics ever" statements we've had so far about this game were really on point.

It does look really close, other than the thicker superior hair (still looking great now as well, maybe it's even the same only now the hair isn't wet, I'm not too technical) it's amazingly close, anyone saying the reveal looks "much better" is purely hyperbolic from my layman point of view, even if technically it is, don't care what they did, what "cheap" solutions they did to replicate the look, they managed to reach that model target.
 
Watched videogamer.tv's video review - it is spoiler free.

Attenuated my hype a little for the game. Not expecting great things from the story but excited for the solid gameplay and more personal characterisations!

The plaudits this game is getting is unreal all round.
 
Talking about contrarian reviews, we still don't have the Quarter to Three review, right?

It can take this thread to the place many are anticipating.
It's only one user and he's been far more inflammatory in this thread than any other poster to be honest.
 
Sure that is possible, but scoring something low for contrarian sake is a thing, not just in the gaming medium either. In fact it happens a lot in movies reviews.

Even then, people can be a little too sensitive to the very idea of someone not thinking their favorite thing is amazing. You see it in almost every review thread.
 
that's fine, I've got no issue with it, just trying to illustrate that the supposed "shitposts" that a certain poster has been calling out aren't actually that shitty
Aren't they?


One called Jim a moron because he
gave it the same score as QB
Other said that the places that have it less than 9 only did it to standout and getting attention
Other called Jim a "freak" that "wants attention"
Other claimed that every place with a score lower than 9 is trying to "send a message".
Other looked at two of the reviews that gave it a 8 and declared one of them " invalid" because he didn't agree with their complaints.
 
Just my .02 cents.

Personally, I think the whole Nathan Drake being a "serial killer " arguement is COMPLETE nit-picking.

I truly hope no one brought down their scores for that specific reason.

As long as the game doesn't really revel in the killing or attempt to half-heartedly tackle the subject, it's not really an issue to me just like in past UC games.

It's more of an issue in the new TR games where Lara struggles with killing, yet both her and the game creators themselves seem to revel in the level of violence and brutality. It just takes itself so seriously that it feels grim, dark, and violent for no good reason. Uncharted has a lot of levity and pokes fun at itself, rarely attempting to be more than an action adventure blockbuster romp at least from a tonal level.

Uncharted doesn't really tackle moral gray areas. Sure the villains have their own nuances, but they also make it clear that the people you're fighting are not good.
 
I stated more or less that Jim was "seeking attention"

Not that he purposefully lowered his score but by comparing it to Quantum Break but then the follow up tweet along with it.

The Sony/Uncharted fanbase has many passionate members in it and by comparing it to the last "major" XB1 exclusive then the tweet to take a jab at them......he knows exactly what he was doing.

His score might be sincere but the other comments were for the attention IMO

He's QB tweet was in response to a comparison that some posters were making here on GAF. And let's not be innocent, Sterling is a very intelligent dude. He knows how to create some controversy, none of his tweets were "accidents"

Can we please stop this.

Let's not do this shit please.

It's only one user and he's been far more inflammatory in this thread than any other poster to be honest.

You really want to see the world burn, do you? :P

Sorry =]
Were just throwing that out.
My bad, my bad....
 
I'm avoiding fully reading reviews because of avoiding spoilers, but do any of them get into detail about gun play and destructible environments? If not that's a big shame because, what's the point in me listening to your opinion about the game is you're going to be vague about the things that matters most in a TPS action adventure shooter?
 
Aren't they?


One called Jim a moron because he
gave it the same score as QB
Other said that the places that have it less than 9 only did it to standout and getting attention
Other called Jim a "freak" that "wants attention"
Other claimed that every place with a score lower than 9 is trying to "send a message".
Other looked at two of the reviews that gave it a 8 and declared one of them " invalid" because he didn't agree with their complaints.

Thank goodness we have the paladin we need to keep us all sane in here!
 
You know what the reason is... it was a target, a target that did not have the physics, AI, and all other calculations taken into account. Also, the background textures/geometry, etc., are not as good as the final game which adds to the load.

They wanted the cut-scenes captured entirely in-engine, to not be that much different than the gameplay.

It is quite an impressive feat at the time at 60fps, and in no way a 'render' or 'cgi' or a 'farm of PS4's'. It was a closed target on a single PS4, which has been repeated by the developer/coder herself..

But, there was no physics, AI, and other calculations as the image was taken from a cut scene.
 
But, there was no physics, AI, and other calculations as the image was taken from a cut scene. IMO, the original target was like the Last Of Us trailer. It was never running on a single machine at 60FPS.

Did you just purposely omit the rest of my post which describes this... sigh.
 
Honest to God in this day and age where incredible GOTY-quality stuff like The Witcher 3, Bayonetta 2 and Bloodborne all get below 92-ish, it's astounding that Uncharted 4 can garner a 94, almost a 95 at Metacritic.

There will never be a game in this day and age that will be getting only 9s - pretty much impossible with different tastes, expectations, etc. For Uncharted 4 to barely put a foot wrong with all these reviews - as well as impressions with GAFfers who beat it - is in itself a landmark achievement that all Uncharted fans like myself should celebrate happily. We love this series, how lucky are we to get very likely the best game in the series (and possibly one of the greatest games of all time for our tastes) as the swan song? This is beautiful.

Unfortunately, one thing I began noticing in the last couple of years is those who thirst for meltdowns are outgrowing those that have actual meltdowns, and it's both bizarre and downright annoying. This thread has its fair share of that. Not only do those want to see meltdowns, bu they try to bait posters into meltdowns as well.

All Uncharted fans in here - rejoice :D One of our favorite series ended with probably the loudest bang we'd hoped for :D

Naughty Dog will be attending the Oscars.

What a LOVELY piece of art! Any idea who did this?

At this point the real wall of shame should be people who are fishing for meltdowns all over this thread..

You hit the nail on the head. This is a growing trend, unfortunately.

Going through the thread (late to the party) I am struck by the amount of baiting / provocation. It's like some people were hoping for lower scores and seeing a positive consensus from critics resorted to provocation in order to get the meltdowns they were hoping for. I know this happens to a degree in any review thread, but with this game it seems particularly bad. I suppose it's a combination of the uc3 thread legacy and salty fanboys.

Anyway, congratulations to Nd for another classic for the ages!

Another post that gets it right. See my comments above.
 
Aren't they?


One called Jim a moron because he
gave it the same score as QB
Other said that the places that have it less than 9 only did it to standout and getting attention
Other called Jim a "freak" that "wants attention"
Other claimed that every place with a score lower than 9 is trying to "send a message".
Other looked at two of the reviews that gave it a 8 and declared one of them " invalid" because he didn't agree with their complaints.

I'm not gonna argue they are wonderful posts or anything, but they don't warrant this sort of whacky salt seeking mission you seem to be on in this thread
 
Honest to God in this day and age where incredible GOTY-quality stuff like The Witcher 3, Bayonetta 2 and Bloodborne all get below 92-ish, it's astounding that Uncharted 4 can garner a 94, almost a 95 at Metacritic.

There will never be a game in this day and age that will be getting only 9s - pretty much impossible with different tastes, expectations, etc. For Uncharted 4 to barely put a foot wrong with all these reviews - as well as impressions with GAFfers who beat it - is in itself a landmark achievement that all Uncharted fans like myself should celebrate happily. We love this series, how lucky are we to get very likely the best game in the series (and possibly one of the greatest games of all time for our tastes) as the swan song? This is beautiful.

Unfortunately, one thing I began noticing in the last couple of years is those who thirst for meltdowns are outgrowing those that have actual meltdowns, and it's both bizarre and downright annoying. This thread has its fair share of that. Not only do those want to see meltdowns, bu they try to bait posters into meltdowns as well.

All Uncharted fans in here - rejoice :D One of our favorite series ended with probably the loudest bang we'd hoped for :D



What a LOVELY piece of art! Any idea who did this?



You hit the nail on the head. This is a growing trend, unfortunately.



Another post that gets it right. See my comments above.

This was beautiful. I would slow clap it if I could but everyone at work would give me looks. Meltdowns can still be had with Edge and meta falling to 93 or 92 but whatever the game is amazing and less amazing for others.
 
He's QB tweet was in response to a comparison that some posters were making here on GAF. And let's not be innocent, Sterling is a very intelligent dude. He knows how to create some controversy, none of his tweets were accidents....

You kinda just made my point
 
I'm not gonna argue they are wonderful posts or anything, but they don't warrant this sort of whacky salt seeking mission you seem to be on in this thread
If anything the response you guys are doing with the pile up kinda proves my point tbh. You are really annoyed that I'm pointing out the crappy posts for some reason.
 
Even then, people can be a little too sensitive to the very idea of someone not thinking their favorite thing is amazing. You see it in almost every review thread.

For sure. A low score doesn't bother me at all. I have an idea in mind of what games I think I will enjoy months before anyone reviews it. Personally I think the entire gaming review scoring system is a complete joke (seriously nearly every game would get a 100% on a RT system, that's a problem).

I am was only saying that I predicted at least a couple in that 6-7 range if for nothing else to be contrarian, and people shouldn't freak out if it happens. It's not worth it and in some cases that's what the outlier wants.
 
Aren't they?


One called Jim a moron because he
gave it the same score as QB
Other said that the places that have it less than 9 only did it to standout and getting attention
Other called Jim a "freak" that "wants attention"
Other claimed that every place with a score lower than 9 is trying to "send a message".
Other looked at two of the reviews that gave it a 8 and declared one of them " invalid" because he didn't agree with their complaints.
Just give it up bro plz. Stop trying to start something that's not happening..😕
 
To be fair, this was originally brought up directly in the game.
[U2 END SPOILERS] http://www.youtube.com/v/rVgkiO9VtwI?start=777&end=809&version=3

And since it was commented there, the issue became widely talked about in the public. Nobody batted an eyelid at Drakes actions in U1.

Not sure you're right about that. I could swear "white man goes around blowing away dozens of brown skinned guys" was brought up when the first Uncharted was the only Uncharted.
 
You kinda just made my point

Yeah =]

Was just commenting how the UC4-QB comparison wasn't something that we said first.

Sometimes is kinda dumb how the media guys stalk GAF just so they can make some funny tweets about how dumb gamers are and how much they despise this behavior, when they surely profit from this kind of craziness.
 
Aren't they?


One called Jim a moron because he
gave it the same score as QB
Other said that the places that have it less than 9 only did it to standout and getting attention
Other called Jim a "freak" that "wants attention"
Other claimed that every place with a score lower than 9 is trying to "send a message".
Other looked at two of the reviews that gave it a 8 and declared one of them " invalid" because he didn't agree with their complaints.
Holy shit you get worked up and whine in every Uncharted thread over stupid trivial shit. Go outside and enjoy life. Just ignore those people damnit !
 
If anything the response you guys are doing with the pile up kinda proves my point tbh. You are really annoyed that I'm pointing out the crappy posts for some reason.
Why are you actively trying to start something? The thread for the most part is very calm and collected(surprisingly) let it go. Enjoy the scores.

May 10th
 
Honest to God in this day and age where incredible GOTY-quality stuff like The Witcher 3, Bayonetta 2 and Bloodborne all get below 92-ish, it's astounding that Uncharted 4 can garner a 94, almost a 95 at Metacritic.

There will never be a game in this day and age that will be getting only 9s - pretty much impossible with different tastes, expectations, etc. For Uncharted 4 to barely put a foot wrong with all these reviews - as well as impressions with GAFfers who beat it - is in itself a landmark achievement that all Uncharted fans like myself should celebrate happily. We love this series, how lucky are we to get very likely the best game in the series (and possibly one of the greatest games of all time for our tastes) as the swan song? This is beautiful.

Unfortunately, one thing I began noticing in the last couple of years is those who thirst for meltdowns are outgrowing those that have actual meltdowns, and it's both bizarre and downright annoying. This thread has its fair share of that. Not only do those want to see meltdowns, bu they try to bait posters into meltdowns as well.

All Uncharted fans in here - rejoice :D One of our favorite series ended with probably the loudest bang we'd hoped for :D



What a LOVELY piece of art! Any idea who did this?



You hit the nail on the head. This is a growing trend, unfortunately.



Another post that gets it right. See my comments above.

Well said!
 
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