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And here they go!
 
reKon said:
Quarter to three should be banned from metacritic. Their content of their reviews are very poor and their criticisms are so fucking ridiculous. Theie final ratings are not a good guide to follow at all.
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I'm scratching my head on a lot of the 1 and 2 starred reviews.
 
Static Veins said:
Anyone in the UK who ordered from ShopTo get their copy today? Been stuck at work all day and the anticipation of my copy potentially waiting for me at home is unbearable.
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I preordered from both ShopTo and Base.com last week, my Base.com copy was dispatched Yesterday and arrived today :). ShopTo was still showing waiting dispatch when I cancelled.
 
fastest finger said:
I heard they'd been told by Sony not to send copies out until Monday.
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So what happens if they get sent out and for some reason are not delivered on Tuesday?

If Sony are so adamant about the release date then it should "must" work both ways, it is not received on release day thus some form of compensation is applied.

This applies for any game, retailers should be able to send out so that games arrive on release day, if some arrive a day or two before release then so be it.
 
B1G_A1AN said:
So what happens if they get sent out and for some reason are not delivered on Tuesday?

If Sony are so adamant about the release date then it should "must" work both ways, it is not received on release day thus some form of compensation is applied.

This applies for any game, retailers should be able to send out so that games arrive on release day, if some arrive a day or two before release then so be it.
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It is not Sony's responsibility to get you the physical copy of the game on release day just because you ordered from an online retailer. It's entirely the retailers responsibility (as long as Sony got the game to their warehouses before release day). As long as the game got on the shelves in retail stores on release day, and is available to purchase on psn on release day as well, Sony's fulfilled their end of the responsibilities to the customers.

A retailer promising to deliver you a game on release day makes it their responsibility, not sony's.
 
Ascenion said:
To be fair I find the review more understandable if based on gameplay. MGSV puts 4 to shame gameplay wise.
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A sequel/prequel having a better gameplay is natural and expected from most games.

but yeah if the whole review is only reviewing the gameplay portion then it's understandable I guess.
 
farisr said:
It is not Sony's responsibility to get you the physical copy of the game on release day just because you ordered from an online retailer. It's entirely the retailers responsibility (as long as Sony got the game to their warehouses before release day). As long as the game got on the shelves in retail stores on release day, and is available to purchase on psn on release day as well, Sony's fulfilled their end of the responsibilities to the customers.

A retailer promising to deliver you a game on release day makes it their responsibility, not sony's.
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Which is this
B1G_A1AN said:
retailers should be able to send out so that games arrive on release day, if some arrive a day or two before release then so be it.
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If they have been told by Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony etc that they are not allowed to post out until a certain then they should state this to their customers, pushing the blame back.

There is though however a good argument to receiving games late, because as 90% of games arrive bug ridden and broken, allowing for reading reviews and seeing others having issues gets people to cancel their orders or not bother with the game at all until it's fixed and picked up cheaper weeks or months later, I have done this a few times now and sometimes not bothered getting the game at all.
 
silva1991 said:
A sequel/prequel having a better gameplay is natural and expected from most games.

but yeah if the whole review is only reviewing the gameplay portion then it's understandable I guess.
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You guess? V is one of the most ambitious and shockingly deep games ever made, in terms of the quality, scope, and perfect meshing of its various systems. Its game design achievements probably will never be replicated again, nor even attempted.

4 is no slouch either. For a cutscene-dominated linear campaign, it has tons of gameplay depth too. However, V blows it out of the water. It could've played it safe and just expanded on 4's design. Instead it threw it out and came up with something 10x grander. That's WAY beyond the call of duty and still shocks me. Very ballsy move.

But 4 has a satisfying narrative, I hear you say. V has big narrative problems, I hear you say. Indeed. It's a subjective thing, but it's understandable if one finds the disparity in narrative so huge as to make it obvious that V < 4. However, not everyone will feel that way. Some will put more stock in the gameplay and longevity of the game.

I'm a huge MGS fan. Some of the narrative stuff in V was very hard for me to take, and it was a bitter pill to swallow. Yet my 200 hours of V suggest that, all in all, I find it better than 4. It's not a crazy opinion.

Don't get me wrong. The Tom Chick 1 star is probably, as I wrote above, just trolling.
 
Static Veins said:
Ah well. Got a dispatch email pretty early this morning from them so hopefully will be playing it Monday.
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From shopto? They have been tweeting that those dispatch emails were sent because of an system error and they will not be shipping until Monday because of strict shipping instructions from Sony.
 
reKon said:
Quarter to three should be banned from metacritic. Their content of their reviews are very poor and their criticisms are so fucking ridiculous. Theie final ratings are not a good guide to follow at all.


http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/review-list

You can sort by rating and see what they've given some of the bigger games.

Infamous second son, 2 stars
Halo 4, 1 star
Forza Horizon, 1 star
MGS 4, 1 star
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I never really like his reviews as they almost seemed reactionary. His Last Of Us review was so reductionist. Still, his reviews make very little difference on Metacritic. If Uncharted 4 gets a 3, it's pretty meaningless coming from that site.
 
reKon said:
Quarter to three should be banned from metacritic. Their content of their reviews are very poor and their criticisms are so fucking ridiculous. Theie final ratings are not a good guide to follow at all.


http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/review-list

You can sort by rating and see what they've given some of the bigger games.

Infamous second son, 2 stars
Halo 4, 1 star
Forza Horizon, 1 star
MGS 4, 1 star
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Yep -- he also gave Journey a 2/5
 
reKon said:
Quarter to three should be banned from metacritic. Their content of their reviews are very poor and their criticisms are so fucking ridiculous. Theie final ratings are not a good guide to follow at all.


http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/review-list

You can sort by rating and see what they've given some of the bigger games.

Infamous second son, 2 stars
Halo 4, 1 star
Forza Horizon, 1 star
MGS 4, 1 star
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God I love Quartertothree's reviews. They should be banned for not falling in line with everyone else's opinions of the "bigger" AAA games? Please.
 
My Amazon still says shipping soon with a Tuesday delivery date. I know sometimes they ship the day before but this is NOT the game to be playing that last min stuff with...
 
ShinUltramanJ said:
God I love Quartertothree's reviews. They should be banned for not falling in line with everyone else's opinions of the "bigger" AAA games? Please.
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There are other reviewers who do not fall in line with the overall opinion either. The topic of banning is not being considered for them though. There is a reason why.
 
ShinUltramanJ said:
God I love Quartertothree's reviews. They should be banned for not falling in line with everyone else's opinions of the "bigger" AAA games? Please.
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Of course you should be allowed to state your opinion, but if those are his real reviews and he gave all those games either 1 or 2, I don't think he's qualified to be a critic. I don't like Halo either, but I would never give it a 1.

That's like if I started critiquing movies - let's say 2004 - and gave Eternal Sunshine, Man on Fire, Collateral and Sideways a one star rating. Of course I'd be entitled to my opinion, but obviously I shouldn't be critiquing movies.
 
Just an observation about MC in general. Last year, Witcher 3 and BB both got 92 while MGS V sits at 93. But in terms of GOTY awards, I believe Witcher 3 has way more than both of those combined. This presents an interesting picture, that while the average sentiment about BB and MGS were on par or higher than Witcher, the admiration for the later was probably higher. What I mean is that, a perfect score for Witcher probably meant more to a reviewer than a perfect score for BB or MGS.

What I'm trying to say is, rather than only looking at the MC counter, we should pay more attention to how much we really feel passionate about a game and have fun playing it, cause clearly at the end of the day that's what ultimately counts.
 
YukihiraSouma said:
Just an observation about MC in general. Last year, Witcher 3 and BB both got 92 while MGS V sits at 93. But in terms of GOTY awards, I believe Witcher 3 has way more than both of those combined. This presents an interesting picture, that while the average sentiment about BB and MGS were on par or higher than Witcher, the admiration for the later was probably higher. What I mean is that, a perfect score for Witcher probably meant more to a reviewer than a perfect score for BB or MGS.

What I'm trying to say is, rather than only looking at the MC counter, we should pay more attention to how much we really feel passionate about a game and have fun playing it, cause clearly at the end of the day that's what ultimately counts.
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You have to take into account that many MGSV reviews were after a Konami-held review event. It's possible many of those reviewers never reached Act 2 before reviewing it. By the time GOTY came around, most were aware that the latter half of the game is kind of a mess.
 
YukihiraSouma said:
Just an observation about MC in general. Last year, Witcher 3 and BB both got 92 while MGS V sits at 93. But in terms of GOTY awards, I believe Witcher 3 has way more than both of those combined. This presents an interesting picture, that while the average sentiment about BB and MGS were on par or higher than Witcher, the admiration for the later was probably higher. What I mean is that, a perfect score for Witcher probably meant more to a reviewer than a perfect score for BB or MGS.

What I'm trying to say is, rather than only looking at the MC counter, we should pay more attention to how much we really feel passionate about a game and have fun playing it, cause clearly at the end of the day that's what ultimately counts.
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You are reading way too much into the MC scores.
 
Henkka said:
You have to take into account that many MGSV reviews were after a Konami-held review event. It's possible many of those reviewers never reached Act 2 before reviewing it. By the time GOTY came around, most were aware that the latter half of the game is kind of a mess.
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Interesting, but it kind of proves the point about MC scores in general. It can't be the be all and end all when it comes to quality. Another important factor that comes into play during GOTY discussions is the longevity of a game, it's staying power, if you will. I believe that can't be accurately taken into account when you review a game right after playing it. Some games fade away quicker from your memory than others, which I believe is an essential parameter when deciding quality.
 
I finally pre-ordered on PSN (PS4). Trying to download it but am getting 'We're sorry, this product cannot be purchased at this time (WC-40360-3)'. Is pre-load not active yet?
 
RedRedSuit said:
You guess? V is one of the most ambitious and shockingly deep games ever made, in terms of the quality, scope, and perfect meshing of its various systems. Its game design achievements probably will never be replicated again, nor even attempted.
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New levels of hyperbole right here.

I should be getting Uncharted 4 tomorrow. So excited.
 
YukihiraSouma said:
Interesting, but it kind of proves the point about MC scores in general. It can't be the be all and end all when it comes to quality. Another important factor that comes into play during GOTY discussions is the longevity of a game, it's staying power, if you will. I believe that can't be accurately taken into account when you review a game right after playing it. Some games fade away quicker from your memory than others, which I believe is an essential parameter when deciding quality.
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All of this is so subjective. For example I have already forgotten about Witcher 3 and did not touch any of the DLC because I felt the story pay off's were not worth enduring the shoddy mechanics whereas I still pop in Bloodborne or MGSV from time to time because even moving the analog sticks and just controlling these characters gives me a sense of satisfaction as they are mechanically so much on point.

Also games which win a lot of GOTY tend to be those games that have a very traditional story telling device palatable to the western press. I cannot last remember a Japanese game that last received a lot of GOTY awards inspite of receiving universal acclaim. I bet FF15, Persona 5 etc will not get a bunch of GOTY awards even if they review extremely well.

Anyhow did Edge already release UC4 scores?
 
generic_username said:
All of this is so subjective. For example I have already forgotten about Witcher 3 and did not touch any of the DLC because I felt the story pay off's were not worth enduring the shoddy mechanics whereas I still pop in Bloodborne or MGSV from time to time because even moving the analog sticks and just controlling these characters gives me a sense of satisfaction because they are mechanically so much on point.

Also games which win a lot of GOTY tend to be those games that have a very traditional story telling device palatable to the Western press. I cannot last remember a Japanese game that last received a lot of GOTY awards inspite of receiving universal acclaim. I bet FF15, Persona 5 etc will not get a bunch of GOTY awards even if they review extremely well.

Anyhow did Edge already release UC4 scores?
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We have to wait for Edge new issue before we get review scores.
 
YukihiraSouma said:
Just an observation about MC in general. Last year, Witcher 3 and BB both got 92 while MGS V sits at 93. But in terms of GOTY awards, I believe Witcher 3 has way more than both of those combined. This presents an interesting picture, that while the average sentiment about BB and MGS were on par or higher than Witcher, the admiration for the later was probably higher. What I mean is that, a perfect score for Witcher probably meant more to a reviewer than a perfect score for BB or MGS.

What I'm trying to say is, rather than only looking at the MC counter, we should pay more attention to how much we really feel passionate about a game and have fun playing it, cause clearly at the end of the day that's what ultimately counts.
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I suppose that doesn't surprise me. For me, MGS V was easily the best gameplay of any game I played last year (did not play Bloodborne so can't comment on that specifically). The sheer variety of options it allowed one to approach each combat encounter was just so impressive and easily outclassed the prior entries of the series in terms of gameplay.
However, The Witcher 3 was my GOTY just because it was the complete package. MGS V played better, but the story didn't quite engage me as much as prior MGS games. The Witcher 3 on the other hand had such good writing spread across main quests, side quests on a fairly large open world. It may be cliche to say, but the game was a masterpiece on so many levels IMO.
 
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