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So I played UC1-2 but never got to UC3. Do I need to know what happened in UC3 to appreciate UC4?

All you really need to know is that Elena and Drake get engaged by the end of the game, and that Sully "dies", but it turns out Drake was just high on magic or something, so he didn't really die.

There's really not much you need to know.
 
So I played UC1-2 but never got to UC3. Do I need to know what happened in UC3 to appreciate UC4?
I just played Uncharted 3 Remastered for the first time this weekend, specifically to be caught up for 4, and I really felt like I didn't need to. I mean, I'm glad I did just for completion's sake, but as far as the story, not really.

There will probably be a few small references to 3 in 4 that I'll be able to pick up on now, but that's about it.
 
So I played UC1-2 but never got to UC3. Do I need to know what happened in UC3 to appreciate UC4?

All you really need to know is that Elena and Drake get engaged by the end of the game, and that Sully "dies", but it turns out Drake was just high on magic or something, so he didn't really die.

There's really not much you need to know.

Also that:

- Nathan's mother committed suicide.
- Nathan Drake is not his real name.
- Nathan was brought up in a foster home which was created by Sir Francis Drake.
- Sully took Nathan in when he was a teenager.

UC3 had some great Nathan Drake backstory. I would play it if I was you.
 
So I played UC1-2 but never got to UC3. Do I need to know what happened in UC3 to appreciate UC4?

I just played Uncharted 3 Remastered for the first time this weekend, specifically to be caught up for 4, and I really felt like I didn't need to. I mean, I'm glad I did just for completion's sake, but as far as the story, not really.

There will probably be a few small references to 3 in 4 that I'll be able to pick up on now, but that's about it.

Just to give a counter opinion, Antitrop is crazy because he thinks Uncharted 1 is better than 3. U3 is my personal favorite and I would definitely recommend playing it once before U4 if you don't have to play U4 on day 1.

As for the people telling him what happens and tell him to play it, you are taking away some of the motivation lol. Maybe spoiler tag it?
 
Just to give a counter opinion, Antitrop is crazy because he thinks Uncharted 1 is better than 3. U3 is my personal favorite and I would definitely recommend playing it once before U4 if you don't have to play U4 on day 1.

As for the people telling him what happens and tell him to play it, you are taking away some of the motivation lol. Maybe spoiler tag it?

It is. Its also better than Uncharted 2.
 
I like how he asked if he needs to know what happened in 3 and everyone just started spoiling things. Could have gave him the option and put it in spoiler tags.
 
Just to give a counter opinion, Antitrop is crazy because he thinks Uncharted 1 is better than 3. U3 is my personal favorite and I would definitely recommend playing it once before U4 if you don't have to play U4 on day 1.

As for the people telling him what happens and tell him to play it, you are taking away some of the motivation lol. Maybe spoiler tag it?
I like Uncharted 1 mostly on the strength of how it portrays the beginning of Nathan and Elena's relationship. I thought it was all really well done, even when I played the Remaster last year.

On the other hand, Elena is barely even in 3, it's mostly The Chloe Show until she just disappears 2/3s of the way through (which was okay with me).

I really like Elena. Sue me.
 
I like Uncharted 1 mostly on the strength of how it portrays the beginning of Nathan and Elena's relationship. I thought it was all really well done, even when I played the Remaster last year.

On the other hand, Elena is barely even in 3, it's mostly The Chloe Show until she just disappears 2/3s of the way through (which was okay with me).

I really like Elena. Sue me.

Haha fair enough. I really like Elena, but even more I love Sully and Nates relationship which is best in 3.
 
I like Uncharted 1 mostly on the strength of how it portrays the beginning of Nathan and Elena's relationship. I thought it was all really well done, even when I played the Remaster last year.

On the other hand, Elena is barely even in 3, it's mostly The Chloe Show until she just disappears 2/3s of the way through (which was okay with me).

I really like Elena. Sue me.

Eh, having literally just beaten 3, Elena was in it as much as Chloe. Probably more. Chloe was there for a bit at the beginning in London (she doesn't even go underground with the three guys), she's there in Syria, but then disappears. Elena shows up, is there through the streets of Yemen down into the underground well, then we see her again once Drake makes it back from the cruise ship and through to the plane, and even pops up in the epilogue.

Sully is the best thing about all three games, so everything else is just a tie-breaker. ;)

If you want to talk about a game where a character barely shows up, it would be Sully in Uncharted 2. It's amazing that that game still manages to be the best without him pretty much at all.
 
Another perfect score incoming? ABC seems happy.
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Who's talking about DS2?

If you say DS3, I can't agree.



Maybe so but U4 didn't introduce that much more. In some ways, it's a step backward (the set pieces).

I love DS, but feel UC4's wide linear approach design is a bigger step forward than anything in DS3, which in itself feels like a step back from Bloodborne to me.

Also, UC4 has the best set-piece in the series.
 
it's a step backward (the set pieces).

Only if you feel bigger is better, I don't, it's one of the reasons I dislike UC3. Less can be more.

I hate to say it but for me the OST is the least memorable aspect of ND games. I went through TLOU and only noticed the score like 1 or 2 times. Sort of a complement actually, their games are so absorbing with story &, gameplay that its hard to notice anything else.

The TLOU score was incredible. I get feels just hearing the first few notes of the theme, every single time. The music is at least 30% of the impact of those scenes for me.
 
I hate to say it but for me the OST is the least memorable aspect of ND games. I went through TLOU and only noticed the score like 1 or 2 times. Sort of a complement actually, their games are so absorbing with story & gameplay, everything else just escapes you.
 
Him living out the rest of his life in an old folk's home, hitting on all the nurses. Nothing less from Sully, IMO.

It'll be him in a nursing home telling his grand stories of adventure, and then it'll flashback and turn into an Indiana Jones/James Bond-ish game.
 
Eh, having literally just beaten 3, Elena was in it as much as Chloe. Probably more. Chloe was there for a bit at the beginning in London (she doesn't even go underground with the three guys), she's there in Syria, but then disappears. Elena shows up, is there through the streets of Yemen down into the underground well, then we see her again once Drake maikes t back from the cruise ship and through to the plane, and even pops up in the epilogue.


If you want to talk about a game where a character barely shows up, it would be Sully in Uncharted 2. It's amazing that that game still manages to be the best without him pretty much at all.

My memory of these games is such shit and I just played 3 on Friday. I figure a lot of is because I played them on Hard and would get stuck and frustrated on combat encounters all the time, causing me to lose focus on the stories. I still came away from 3 feeling like there wasn't enough Elena, but that's my bias towards favoring her, I guess. She was definitely in 3 less than 1 and 2, wasn't she?

I'm going to play 4 on Normal the first time, like I did with The Last of Us. Keeps the pace of the story flowing more smoothly.

I think TLoU plays better on Hard by quite a bit, but I think running through it the first time on Normal was best for my understanding of the plot.
 
Also that:

- Nathan's mother committed suicide.
- Nathan Drake is not his real name.
- Nathan was brought up in a foster home which was created by Sir Francis Drake.
- Sully took Nathan in when he was a teenager.

UC3 had some great Nathan Drake backstory. I would play it if I was you.

Well shit. Now Im sad.

It should be neat to see how Sam plays into all of this for UC4
 
Only if you feel bigger is better, I don't, it's one of the reasons I dislike UC3. Less can be more.



The TLOU score was incredible. I get feels just hearing the first few notes of the theme, every single time.

Eh, Uncharted 2's train was longer, bigger, and crazier than the cruise ship, plane, and convoy in 3, but it is still way better. The convoy in 3 was pretty fun, but the cruise and plane both feel like things happening around you for you to look at rather than the train being interesting level design to go with the insanity.

My memory of these games is such shit and I just played 3 on Friday. I figure a lot of is because I played them on Hard and would get stuck and frustrated on combat encounters all the time, causing me to lose focus on the stories. I still came away from 3 feeling like there wasn't enough Elena, but that's my bias towards favoring her, I guess. She was definitely in 3 less than 1 and 2, wasn't she?

I'm going to play 4 on Normal the first time, like I did with The Last of Us. Keeps the pace of the story flowing more smoothly.

I think TLoU plays better on Hard by quite a bit, but I think running through it the first time on Normal was best for my understanding of the plot.

1 definitely has the most Elena, as it's the only one where she's there from the beginning for a sensible reason instead of just showing up 1/3 / 1/2 of the way through :P

3 has the least amount of her in the series for sure.In 2, as soon as her and Jeff show up, she's pretty much keeping pace with Drake through the last 2/3rds.
 
Eh, Uncharted 2's train was longer, bigger, and crazier than the cruise ship, plane, and convoy in 3, but it is still way better. The convoy in 3 was pretty fun, but the cruise and plane both feel like things happening around you for you to look at rather than the train being interesting level design to go with the insanity.

Uncharted 3 was a conscious effort to go bigger with the set pieces. ND have acknowledged this as a misstep and a stated aim for UC4 was to not just go bigger for the sake of it but make them more intimate and cohesive with the narrative
 
Having finished U4 I actually think it will age worse than any Dark Souls game. Dark Souls gameplay is almost timeless. The only groundbreaking thing about U4 is the visuals and photorealistic visuals always age.

Absolutely disagree. Uncharted 4 honestly features some of the best combat design in any game I've ever played. A few of the shoot outs take place in such amazingly dense, layered and dynamic arena's that they basically feel like giant combat playgrounds. You can pretty much immediately and fluidly switch been climbing, platforming, swinging, stealth, cover shooting, melee, flanking etc on the fly, in a much more fast paced, effortless and polished way than any shooter I've played before it. It can be impressively liberating, to a degree that is beyond near enough every other shooter.

I suppose the closest thing to UC4's level of combat dynamism is Tomb Raider, but comparing the two only further highlights how much more advanced UC4's gameplay systems are. Everything is just much more fluid and sophisticated. Aiming is far more precise and accurate, animations are superior, the cover system is a lot more competent allowing for more cover options and better detection and usability, the rope swing mechanics are more fun and better implemented, the level design a lot more dynamic and expansive, the AI several notches better, and so on and so on.
 
Absolutely disagree. Uncharted 4 honestly features some of the best combat design in any game I've ever played. A few of the shoot outs take place in such amazingly dense, layered and dynamic arena's that they basically feel like giant combat playgrounds. You can pretty much immediately and fluidly switch been climbing, platforming, swinging, stealth, cover shooting, melee, flanking etc on the fly, in a much more fast paced, effortless and polished way than any shooter I've played before it. It can be impressively liberating, to a degree that is beyond near enough every other shooter.
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Who's talking about DS2?

If you say DS3, I can't agree.



Maybe so but U4 didn't introduce that much more. In some ways, it's a step backward (the set pieces).
I think people will get tired of things blowing up after a few games man...I know I definitely would have been more negative towards the game if it was just Uncharted 2.5.

I feel like if you buy into the Story, UC4 is going to be one of the greatest games of all time.

If it didn’t affect you as deeply, then it’ll probably just be the best playing Uncharted.

I for one, and very very very glad, they didn’t go for another bombastic thrill ride roller coaster that never slowed down. Going through he collection, and playing games like Tomb Raider Reboot, or COD campaign, I’m just tired of the set-piece formula at this point.
 
Uncharted 3 was a conscious effort to go bigger with the set pieces. ND have acknowledged this as a misstep and a stated aim for UC4 was to not just go bigger but make them more intimate and cohesive with the narrative

I hear this all the time that they tried to go bigger, louder, etc. etc. but they feel pretty on par, it's just 2 did it better and was more mindful that its set-piece strengths weren't just eye candy. I see no reason not to try and recapture what they did with 2, but doing what they did with Uncharted 4 and grounding it a bit more seems like a fine decision just as much.
 
Absolutely disagree. Uncharted 4 honestly features some of the best combat design in any game I've ever played. A few of the shoot outs take place in such amazingly dense, layered and dynamic arena's that they basically feel like giant combat playgrounds. You can pretty much immediately and fluidly switch been climbing, platforming, swinging, stealth, cover shooting, melee, flanking etc on the fly, in a much more fast paced, effortless and polished way than any shooter I've played before it. It can be impressively liberating, to a degree that is beyond near enough every other shooter.

Oh man. Those environments sound like theyll be amazing on replays. Hope the DLC adds in even more. Then we can have fun debating which environment was the best :P
 
Yeah Amazon delayed my order until May 13 too. Thus I cancelled that crap immediately and bought the game on PS Store instead. Ain't nobody got time for that!
My brother did the same thing. Amazon wasn't shipping until the 13th so he cancelled and preordered digitally.

Amazon really needs to get their shit together or they're going to start losing customers.
 
Wow... this game needs to come out already. People are starting to compare Souls games with Uncharted. You can feel it's close.

People shrugging off Edmonson's music in 1-3 are really stepping on some thin ice with me...

I mean, you have ears and a mind... why you slippin'?

While I agree with the stupidity of simply shrugging off an important part of a work, I think the same should be said about people who become simply headstrong out of loyalty. As you said... you have ears and a mind.
 
I hear this all the time that they tried to go bigger, louder, etc. etc. but they feel pretty on par, it's just 2 did it better.


The philosophy felt different in 3. They seemed to prioritize spectacle at the expense of anything else. I wasn't saying bigger can't be better, but you gotta take the bigger (and smaller) picture into account.

I see no reason not to try and recapture what they did with 2, but doing what they did with Uncharted 4 and grounding it a bit more seems like a fine decision just as much.

Agreed
 
Wow... this game needs to come out already. People are starting to compare Souls games with Uncharted. You can feel it's close.



While I agree with the stupidity of simply shrugging off an important part of a work, I think the same should be said about people who become simply headstrong out of loyalty. As you said... you have ears and a mind.
Loyalty? I was wowed by the music before knowing the composer or knowing I'd be so invested in the series since game one.

I thought it was clear I was being facetious but at the same time, some of those tracks really stand out and add to the experience. I just don't get how they can be "forgettable" compared your standard orchestral score elsewhere.
 
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