X-Men Apocalypse Review Thread

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Stakes in Civil War were great. People don't need to die to have dramatic moments. The X-men series was going great,but yeah the sole premise looks same-y and uninspired AF. I'm also tired as fuck of Magneto and he's making the Xmen look dumb by trusting him.
 
SolidChamp said:
There is nothing relatable about the MCU characters that doesn't feel manufactured and rote; completely lacking in any real emotional depth. All of it set up for the next film to sell.

I sincerely don't see how people can't find the identifiable emotions in a film like DOFP, but say they exist in the MCU.

That's why I'm convinced the debate on the comic book genre is utterly pointless; people will see what they want to see, based on bias or what characters they enjoy seeing more. It has very little to do with what films are better written and directed.
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No, but you.

YOU.

You have managed to soar above all this assorted pettiness with alighted wing; descending valiantly from the city of tufted clouds with pinioned TRUTHS.

Thanks for wasting my time.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
That's exactly what Jim Lee Animated X-Men would be, though.

Into the 90s. Original (ish) team. New movie.
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I'll give that 90's Xmen a shot when it releases. But in that case I'm going to wait to Redbox Apocalypse. I already paid to se DOFP which just felt like a 2 hour eraser for the previous X-Men films. If this film isn't even as good as that one I don't think I'm gonna go after all. I'll wait for Suicide Squad.
 
Hasphat'sAnts said:
Erik had a better arc in First Class tbh.
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Yes he did, they were both very well acted, and especially in First class you could really feel why those two were so inseparably close despite having entirely different visions for the Mutants future. They are clearly the only two good-great characters in these movie newer movies (aside from wolverine though your mileage may vary) and relegation of these characters to more minor roles I think will probably one of Apocalypses weaknesses
 
The way Cap won. Amazing how A-List actor Chris Evans ended up with the best comic book trilogy of all time. TALENT always wins.

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X-men Apocalypse is garbage.
The Dark Knight Rises was trash.
Even Return of the Jedi was horrible compared to the 2 previous SW films.

None of them seem to know how to end a trilogy on a good note. I'm horrified @ what Apocalypse will do to Oscar Isaac's careers since he's one of my faves.

Yet the Captain America trilogy ended on the STRONGEST note on equal footing with Winter Soldier.

Critical acclaim? Check.
Incredible lead actors? Check.
Insane box office numbers? Check.

Best trilogy since Lord of the Rings.

LMAOOOOOO the way everyone underestimated Cap and yet now everyone's eating his dust including all the X-men.

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enigmatic_alex44 said:
The way Cap won. Amazing how A-List actor Chris Evans ended up with the best comic book trilogy of all time. TALENT always wins.

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X-men Apocalypse is garbage.
The Dark Knight Rises was trash.
Even Return of the Jedi was horrible compared to the 2 previous SW films.

None of them seem to know how to end a trilogy on a good note. I'm horrified @ what Apocalypse will do to Oscar Isaac's careers since he's one of my faves.

Yet the Captain America trilogy ended on the STRONGEST note on equal footing with Winter Soldier.

Critical acclaim? Check.
Incredible lead actors? Check.
Insane box office numbers? Check.

Best trilogy since Lord of the Rings.

LMAOOOOOO the way everyone underestimated Cap and yet now everyone's eating his dust including all the X-men.

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Salsa said:
I will never get the "I want a more faithful adaptation of the characters" argument

did you watch Xmen 1 and 2?

cast is perfect. character interpretations are almost note for note their comic book counterpart

wolverine vs cyclops. rogue storyline. it's fucking all there, and it's done totally great

people see black costumes and go "oh bad representation"

lol no. those 2 first films are XMEN as fuck. they're all there.
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X-Men 1,2 are perfectly cast.

It took me time to warm up to the First Class cast, but I ended up liking them too. Some great actors in both of those ensembles.

DOFP brought together the best of the two casts, IMO flawlessly.

I'm having a really hard time getting excited for Apocalypse. I'm just not feeling the new casting choices. The production feels like a Disney XD movie.
 
I'm argue that
Cap not dying
is the opposite of safe. Throwing in a death of a major character to inject a manufactured character moment or some superficial stakes is the definition of safe, i.e.,
Superman's death in BvS.

In the end of Civil War,
half the Avengers are locked up and are fugitives, Rhodey is paralyzed and out of the game, and the team is entirely divided and don't trust each other. It's hard to see them uniting as they once did given what occurred.
How the third act progresses is a complete subversion of how a typical vs. movie would function, where two opposing sides work together to take down a common enemy.

Civil War isn't 'safe' nor adheres to the MCU formula. It stands out amongst the pack.
 
Principate said:
Yes he did, they were both very well acted, and especially in First class you could really feel why those two were so inseparably close despite having entirely different visions for the Mutants future. They are clearly the only two good-great characters in these movie newer movies (aside from wolverine though your mileage may vary) and relegation of these characters to more minor roles I think will probably one of Apocalypses weaknesses
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Also being in a different galaxy compared to the other actors in these movies tend to be a plus.

Oscar Isaac excepting of course, but they put him in Power Rangers level makeup so...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
enigmatic_alex44 said:
The way Cap won. Amazing how A-List actor Chris Evans ended up with the best comic book trilogy of all time. TALENT always wins.

97ZFY8S.gif


X-men Apocalypse is garbage.
The Dark Knight Rises was trash.
Even Return of the Jedi was horrible compared to the 2 previous SW films.

None of them seem to know how to end a trilogy on a good note. I'm horrified @ what Apocalypse will do to Oscar Isaac's careers since he's one of my faves.

Yet the Captain America trilogy ended on the STRONGEST note on equal footing with Winter Soldier.

Critical acclaim? Check.
Incredible lead actors? Check.
Insane box office numbers? Check.

Best trilogy since Lord of the Rings.

LMAOOOOOO the way everyone underestimated Cap and yet now everyone's eating his dust including all the X-men.

8Mm8EUz.gif
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The hell is this...
 
Cipherr said:
Nah man their schedule is full enough. They are already having to delay stuff just to fit Spiderman in and whatnot. I don't even want them to get F4 back anymore. Just let everything stay where it is. I'm loving the MCU currently and don't want that to change anymore.
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Yea, if they get the F4 rights back they don't even need their own movie for a while. Just throw them in someone elses shit lol.
 
Definitely surprised opening the thread. DoFP is phenomenal. Excited to check it out when I can but if critics line up with audience reaction, Deadpool truly will outpace it.
 
icespide said:
civil war spoilers:
the villain won in Civil War though?
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Yeah I find it funny how people say in every MCU movie that the villain always loses.
While in Civil War that villain did win. I mean none of the heroes died in the movie, but there was still consequences. Rhodey being paralyzed from his fall is one of them. I'm really happy that they didn't kill off Zemo in the end. He was an interesting villain and so far the best villain in the MCU.

I'm still going to watch X-Men Apocalypse, and make my own opinion on it though. I mean I really enjoyed The Wolverine, and I know lot of people hated that movie.
 
enigmatic_alex44 said:
The way Cap won. Amazing how A-List actor Chris Evans ended up with the best comic book trilogy of all time. TALENT always wins.

97ZFY8S.gif


X-men Apocalypse is garbage.
The Dark Knight Rises was trash.
Even Return of the Jedi was horrible compared to the 2 previous SW films.

None of them seem to know how to end a trilogy on a good note. I'm horrified @ what Apocalypse will do to Oscar Isaac's careers since he's one of my faves.

Yet the Captain America trilogy ended on the STRONGEST note on equal footing with Winter Soldier.

Critical acclaim? Check.
Incredible lead actors? Check.
Insane box office numbers? Check.

Best trilogy since Lord of the Rings.

LMAOOOOOO the way everyone underestimated Cap and yet now everyone's eating his dust including all the X-men.

8Mm8EUz.gif
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Is this a joke post?
 
Yeezus H. Christ said:
I'm argue that
Cap not dying
is the opposite of safe. Throwing in a death of a major character to inject a manufactured character moment or some superficial stakes is the definition of safe, i.e.,
Superman's death in BvS.

In the end of Civil War,
half the Avengers are locked up and are fugitives, Rhodey is paralyzed and out of the game, and the team is entirely divided and don't trust each other. It's hard to see them uniting as they once did given what occurred.
How the third act progresses is a complete subversion of how a typical vs. movie would function, where two opposing sides work together to take down a common enemy.

Civil War isn't 'safe' nor adheres to the MCU formula. It stands out amongst the pack.
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I agree with this.

The fact that
they don't have have a battle against the generic 5 winter soldiers at the end had me so relieved, and then it ending on more of a mixed note rather than an overtly positive one had me genuinely impressed.
 
enigmatic_alex44 said:
The way Cap won. Amazing how A-List actor Chris Evans ended up with the best comic book trilogy of all time. TALENT always wins.

97ZFY8S.gif


X-men Apocalypse is garbage.
The Dark Knight Rises was trash.
Even Return of the Jedi was horrible compared to the 2 previous SW films.

None of them seem to know how to end a trilogy on a good note. I'm horrified @ what Apocalypse will do to Oscar Isaac's careers since he's one of my faves.

Yet the Captain America trilogy ended on the STRONGEST note on equal footing with Winter Soldier.

Critical acclaim? Check.
Incredible lead actors? Check.
Insane box office numbers? Check.

Best trilogy since Lord of the Rings.

LMAOOOOOO the way everyone underestimated Cap and yet now everyone's eating his dust including all the X-men.

8Mm8EUz.gif
Click to expand...

dahell
 
enigmatic_alex44 said:
The way Cap won. Amazing how A-List actor Chris Evans ended up with the best comic book trilogy of all time. TALENT always wins.

97ZFY8S.gif


X-men Apocalypse is garbage.
The Dark Knight Rises was trash.
Even Return of the Jedi was horrible compared to the 2 previous SW films.

None of them seem to know how to end a trilogy on a good note. I'm horrified @ what Apocalypse will do to Oscar Isaac's careers since he's one of my faves.

Yet the Captain America trilogy ended on the STRONGEST note on equal footing with Winter Soldier.

Critical acclaim? Check.
Incredible lead actors? Check.
Insane box office numbers? Check.

Best trilogy since Lord of the Rings.

LMAOOOOOO the way everyone underestimated Cap and yet now everyone's eating his dust including all the X-men.

8Mm8EUz.gif
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This is embarrassing...
 
enigmatic_alex44 said:
The way Cap won. Amazing how A-List actor Chris Evans ended up with the best comic book trilogy of all time. TALENT always wins.

97ZFY8S.gif


X-men Apocalypse is garbage.
The Dark Knight Rises was trash.
Even Return of the Jedi was horrible compared to the 2 previous SW films.

None of them seem to know how to end a trilogy on a good note. I'm horrified @ what Apocalypse will do to Oscar Isaac's careers since he's one of my faves.

Yet the Captain America trilogy ended on the STRONGEST note on equal footing with Winter Soldier.

Critical acclaim? Check.
Incredible lead actors? Check.
Insane box office numbers? Check.

Best trilogy since Lord of the Rings.

LMAOOOOOO the way everyone underestimated Cap and yet now everyone's eating his dust including all the X-men.

8Mm8EUz.gif
Click to expand...

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JTripper said:
I agree with this.

The fact that
they don't have have a battle against the generic 5 winter soldiers at the end had me so relieved, and then it ending on more of a mixed note rather than an overtly positive one had me genuinely impressed.
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Exactly.

I attribute people weirdly thinking it's safe to two things, both nonsensical:1)
Cap not dying
, and 2)
Cap's letter of apology, which is perfectly natural given that Cap is guilty of having lied to Tony. Maybe viewers weirdly expected Cap and Tony to hate each other's guts or something after their fight, but that makes little sense. Cap willingly held back the truth of Tony's parents' death for a selfish reason, and he knew it was selfish, hence the letter. I really liked how the movie revealed flaws about both Cap and Tony, so the debate between the two sides is equal and neither has an advantage.
 
One question: of all the characters to give a straight-from-the-comics costume, why the fuck did they choose Psylocke?

Well, even with these reviews, I'll see it anyway. I'm still curious what Singer attempting something vaguely resembling a faithful adaptation of the source material looks like.
 
Cipherr said:
Please don't. Its just a deflection anyway.

"What? Film I like isn't reviewing well!? Yeah well.... [Insert Thing here] sucks! so there!"

Waste of time in these threads and its waaaay offtopic anyway.
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Ah, projections.

Actually, I love the MCU, and I don't really give a shit about what entity makes what film.

I guess criticisms of comic book films have now officially fallen into the 'well, you're just a fanboy of X! Your opinion doesn't matter' which is even more pathetic than to infer that I don't like something because of where it came from.
 
First Batman bin Suparman was bad, now it looks like the first ever appearance of goddamn APOCALYPSE is gonna be middling.

Whats the next iconic and highly anticipated comic character that's gonna disappoint?
 
SolidChamp said:
It explores Charles' refusal to accept what he can't change and understand that the stakes are much greater than himself or any one person. At first he's just choosing to live selfishly, with none of the wisdom or compassion that the character is known for.

It very much is McAvoy's movie, and his performance outshines most others in the genre.
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He's good but his performance is a bit over done at parts. I think Fassbender had the better performance and better arc in First Class.
 
Well that's disappointing. I'm actually shocked that they lifted the embargo so early. It will hurt the box office since it's 2 weeks away from releasing.
 
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