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Whatsapp uses your number, so it's not easy to set up a second account.

Anyway, maybe she made friends at her new work place? As for changing her pic, so what? My girlfriend changes her pic every few months, sometimes you just want a change, doesn't matter when you do it or what you change it too... Hers went from a smiling pic with her mum to one where she's laying in bed...maybe she's cheating on me too, wait, there's a guy just to the left of the picture...he's a handsome looking mothefucker too...that sonofabitch, laying in bed with my girlfriend. I'll kill the cunt...

If she starts to become distant, wanting to see you less, talk to you less, etc...that's when you should worry, not right now...
 
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I baked cookies and gave some to a guy in a container. Other than expressing that the cookies were delicious, couldn't he at least offer to return the container to me? Lol wtf...

Are guys abscent minded like that? Hahahaha
Ask for your stuff back. Dont depend on what someone else won't or will do.
If I lend a pen in class, I'm coming for that pen lol. No joke. People will forget if left alone

Just to follow up on this. So I decided to ask for the container back and will probably see him later this week with regards to that. I promised him more cookies and I think I'll tell him that I don't just randomly bake cookies for guys for no reason and hopefully he gets the hint... :)

Good. You asked for it back.

That is in no way shape or form a "hint".
If I heard that sentenece I would think the person was asking for payment.

Unless your body langauage and touching is really what is conveying the "hint". As it should be. But judging from the story I'd guess no.

Allow me to speak for most men when I say we are TERRIBLE at getting hints. It's like the idea of a woman initiating the flirt is so foreign that we don't waste the brain cycles processing it.

If you like the guy, tell him, and save yourself about three seasons worth of "will they/won't they" tv.

Hm, What is the point of hints though? To convey a message to a certain person without being overt I would venture to say.

So if a person isn't getting hints, at a point whose fault is that. I mean the hint giver wants this person to understand correct? I always hear the guys stink at hints thing but sometimes hear examples of hints and "flirting" and am like wat. Maybe both sides need time at the batting cage ha

If you're playing charades and your team isn't getting anything at all, it might be their fault...or
 
For real ? Hmmm I guess I will have to swallow my own insecurity then and actually tell him I like him then. We did hangout a number of times before and one day I baked some cookies and brought him some. I guess he kind of did miss the hint with the cookie because, before, I said I felt insecured about my cookies and he's just like, oh but why ? They tasted delicious.

*shakes my head
Instead of telling him you like him, just ask him out on a date.

I don't know the guy, but personally I used to get a bit uncomfortable when a girl told me she liked me. He might not know how to respond, and it puts the onus of setting up a date on him which he may or may not do. Whereas when you ask him out on a date, it's a simple Yes or No.

Funny thing, a few pages back I was conflicted about asking the first girl out when I already had a date with the other girl scheduled. Now, it seems I'm going on a date with neither.
This is a valuable lesson, and it's why you always want to set up multiple dates. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

My girlfriend wishes me good night but I can see her online on WhatsApp until late. Is she cheating on me?

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What do you think? How should I deal with it? I want to talk to her about it but fear driving her away with my insecurity if I'm wrong.
I'd try talking to her without sounding like you accuse her of anything. Maybe she just made new friends at work?
 
Phone cheating litmus test: When her phone is charging as you two are hanging out and it buzzes, helpfully pass her the phone.

If she eagerly grabs it out of your hand while looking paranoid, probably there's an issue there. Sure was the case when I was being cheated on.
 
Phone cheating litmus test: When her phone is charging as you two are hanging out and it buzzes, helpfully pass her the phone.

If she eagerly grabs it out of your hand while looking paranoid, probably there's an issue there. Sure was the case when I was being cheated on.

I can attest to this. Not that I've cheated, but early when I was dating my girlfriend and I was still talking to other girls, this situation came up a few times when I got snapchats or texts from them.
 
Things are working out. BFF is very BFF atm, and we're going to date in August (right after my exams). Meanwhile, new girl and I will hang out. Everyone's in the loop, which is the best way around it all.
 
I can attest to this. Not that I've cheated, but early when I was dating my girlfriend and I was still talking to other girls, this situation came up a few times when I got snapchats or texts from them.
When I took a photo with a girl I was dating I scrolled left to a photo another girl had sent me... it was early days for us, so the girl laughed it off, but I was mortified.

I can't date multiple people, it's so stressful!
 
Things are working out. BFF is very BFF atm, and we're going to date in August (right after my exams). Meanwhile, new girl and I will hang out. Everyone's in the loop, which is the best way around it all.

Why wait until August to date? That's a weird
and most likely catastrophic
situation.
 
Girl I fell pretty hard for and is a close friend has the choice to stay where she is or move back home later this summer. Her moving away stopped us continuing to date in the first place, so seems like deja vu. I don't think she feels the same way though.
 
I think he's saying the crazy ex again in August, not actually dating.

I know. It's just weird to set a specific time to start dating them. Like, why not just begin the relationship now? Why plan ahead 3 months?

It's an unhealthy relationship anyway...why so much anticipation? How can you just shift from bff to dating like that? Obviously the feelings are there...
 
I know. It's just weird to set a specific time to start dating them. Like, why not just begin the relationship now? Why plan ahead 3 months?

It's an unhealthy relationship anyway...why so much anticipation? How can you just shift from bff to dating like that? Obviously the feelings are there...

Because we aren't in the same country right now.

(she's coming here this time)
 
I feel compelled to write a follow up to this post: http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=201080008&postcount=15265

I know people, and probably Arnie in particular will think I'm a scumbag. I think I'm a scumbag as well. Short background: met a girl in my gym, learned she had a boyfriend, backed of, she kept initiating contact, I kept going along with it (because she is the coolest girl I've met in the last ten years, out of the probably 50 dates I've had).

Here's what happened, and why I feel I need to write about this. Every topic here on GAF, when cheating came up, I always said: don't be an asshole. If you make someone cheat you're to blame. That's a belief I've always held and still have. Somewhat. Until now. With this girl everything felt perfect. Conversation flowed naturally, she makes me laugh, I make her laugh. She makes me think, I make her think. I don't get bored talking to her all day through WhatsApp. That doesn't happen to me. With anyone.

Pretty soon it became clear that I really like her, and she really likes me. We start hanging out more in real life. All the while, in the back of my mind there was this thought. I can't do this, it's not right. What really scared me was how easy it was for me to ignore that voice in my head. Whenever it popped up she'd say something that wowed my. She'd make a remark that would put to rest my greatest insecurities, that made me believe she was literally everything I could hope to find in a woman. Meanwhile the voice in the back of my mind stayed there.

We kept growing closer and closer together, we'd end up on the couch, hugging, talking to each other. We were watching my favorite movie, Before Sunrise, and we both felt the tension, that we wanted to kiss. But we didn't. Because for me, kissing was officially cheating. Every day I felt guilty, but it was such a strange sensation to feel that despite my principles, despite the guilt that kept me up; everything felt so incredibly right. Being together. Working out together, walking through town together, talking through WhatsApp, over the phone. All the while knowing she had a boyfriend. I kept saying to myself; 'we haven't kissed, we haven't had sex. It's not cheating.' When I knew damn well she was cheating on her boyfriend with me.

Yesterday she was at my place again. We were talking about relationships. I asked her if she was perfectly happy with her boyfriend. She said: 'I'm happy with my life. My boyfriend is in my life." After a couple of seconds she said: "It's not a good thing I can't answer that question with a wholehearted yes."

The conversation went on, I mentioned how I have one big dream. When my book gets published, and makes at least 3000 euro's, I'm flying to Florida for a night in a super expensive underwater hotel. Which I've wanted to do since I was six. I wanted to do that with her. I just blurted it out, without thinking. She kissed me. I kissed her back. And at the moment, we officially crossed the line. We had crossed the line before and before, but this time it was official. So I said to her we couldn't to this anymore. We had to stop this. It wasn't fair to me, not to her, and not to her boyfriend.

She said she has to think about it. The past few weeks. Her future. Me. Her boyfriend. Her relationship. I haven't spoken to her since, and I'm pretty much a wreck. I figure she is as well.

I'm not sure why I'm typing this out. People will say I'm an asshole. Deservedly so. I think I just wanted to say how weird it is. To have a firm belief, a principle, for thirty years. And how the right, or wrong, woman can shatter that belief so easily.
 
^^^

The "cheating" part happened a long time before you two actually kissed in this case. She knew was it was going to turn into for a while. I personally don't think you're an asshole in this case.

Who knows, the full story is obviously more complicated.
 
For real ? Hmmm I guess I will have to swallow my own insecurity then and actually tell him I like him then. We did hangout a number of times before and one day I baked some cookies and brought him some. I guess he kind of did miss the hint with the cookie because, before, I said I felt insecured about my cookies and he's just like, oh but why ? They tasted delicious.

*shakes my head

This is the reverse of when men misinterpret friendly gestures from women as romantic interest. If you want to be friendly, be friendly, but if you want to date, ask (and go!) for a date!
 

As amazing as you claim her to be - she still hasn't broken up with her boyfriend. That's pretty much what it boils down to. What does this say about her and her values?

She's okay with stringing along you. She's okay with emotionally investing herself in someone else even though her boyfriend is apparently "her entire life". And as much as she's into you, apparently it's not enough for her to break up with her boyfriend and give it a shot with you.

Maybe it will change and she'll break up with him and you can be together. Though situations like this rarely pan out this way...

I don't really think you're an asshole. I've been in situation like this before. Emotions can be powerful, and you'll learn a lot from the experience regardless.

If you were in a relationship, and it was pleasant enough - but you met someone who you truly connected on a different, greater level, what would you do if said person was 100% willing to give it a shot? Would you break up with your current girlfriend? Or would you do what this girl is doing to you and her current boyfriend?
 
I know I asked yesterday and got my answer that one text after a first date is all I should do, but she kinda sucked at promptly responding to texts before. So I'll just ask is there pretty much no good reason to ask if she wants to go again if she didn't respond to my text after the date?

I know how I'm coming off kinda desperate on here, but she is the only other attractive match I've had in a while so if it can't hurt to send another text I will. Or just tell me to move on.
 
Send her another text later today or tomorrow.

If still nothing after the next text, I would move on.
 
Oh well. I'll fake it.

Don't lie. Come on, don't be that person who has to resort to lying to seem more interesting.

If you want to say you go the gym, actually go the gym. Same with any activity/hobby you say you do, otherwise you will be surprised by questions and come across as someone who lies when you stutter your way through a conversation about your supposed hobbies.
 
Don't lie. Come on, don't be that person who has to resort to lying to seem more interesting.

If you want to say you go the gym, actually go the gym. Same with any activity/hobby you say you do, otherwise you will be surprised by questions and come across as someone who lies when you stutter your way through a conversation about your supposed hobbies.

I am! I've signed up today! I intend to continue to go! It interests me!
 
Because I'm trying to make my profile more appealing. And yeah, a developing interest. It's one word on my profile, if it lets people know I'm keeping in shape, so be it.

It's not offensive or anything.

I've never said it's offensive, I just don't understand why you would purposefully lie on a profile. So you want to attract people with hobbies that you pretend to have instead of your actual hobbies? That sounds like a miserable relationship. It's up to you, but I can't comprehend why you wouldn't do something that does interest you to be interesting rather than lying about something you're not interested in.

Do women actually care if you go to the gym in other people's experiences? I feel like most people just based on your body type so it's not like you can say you love it if you're like 200lbs overweight. I think at most one date asked if I go to the gym out of all of my dates and I'm not even sure if they did.

Physical fitness is appealing, is it not? No need for the third degree guys, I was joking about "faking it". I'm not trying to date you guys.

I think physical looks are appealing for many, the assumption of whether you work out or not will usually come down to how you look physically and they'll draw their own conclusions.

:lol @ not trying to date us.
 
I've never said it's offensive, I just don't understand why you would purposefully lie on a profile. So you want to attract people with hobbies that you pretend to have instead of your actual hobbies? That sounds like a miserable relationship. It's up to you, but I can't comprehend why you wouldn't do something that does interest you to be interesting rather than lying about something you're not interested in.

Do women actually care if you go to the gym in other people's experiences? I feel like most people just based on your body type so it's not like you can say you love it if you're like 200lbs overweight. I think at most one date asked if I go to the gym out of all of my dates and I'm not even sure if they did.

Do I need to show you a gym membership card
 
Do I need to show you a gym membership card

We get that you signed up and went to the gym once.

It just seems to be a bit premature to put in your profile. Also, it's a dumb thing to put in a profile, anyway. Tons of people go to the gym. Put something that makes you stand out.

Lastly, I was trying to befriend you with the hopes that some day you would notice that everything you were looking for in a dude was right here in front of you the whole time. I guess that plan is fucked now.
 
We get that you signed up and went to the gym once.

It just seems to be a bit premature to put in your profile. Also, it's a dumb thing to put in a profile, anyway. Tons of people go to the gym. Put something that makes you stand out.

Lastly, I was trying to befriend you with the hopes that some day you would notice that everything you were looking for in a dude was right here in front of you the whole time. I guess that plan is fucked now.
Shouldn't have questioned my sick gains from 30 minutes of exercise dude
 
Putting that you go to the gym is one of the most boring things that you could put on your profile. It's like the male equivalent of women saying "I love to laugh". It's played out generic filler. If you're getting into shape, a good picture showing physical activity will work so much better in showing that and also that you aren't a loner who never leaves the house.
 
What does "putting out" mean? :\

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Maybe
 
Have a date with a Spanish girl Friday, an au pair that isn't in the country long. Last dates have been: English, French, Polish and now Spanish. And the girl I was totally head over heels for and who I'm still trying to get over was from some nordic country. Irish girls just won't give me the time of day.

Anyway, don't have too much hope for this but it's thing. Outdoors. And as Aziz da gawd says:

''Dating has its downsides, but it can be a lot of fun. Even when it isn't, when you're meeting other people there are always experiences that you remember and learn from.
No matter what happens, you get a lot more out of it than you do from blowing your load into a cold silicone egg.''

This book is great. I should check out his stand up I guess.
 
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