"God's Beard!"
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Magic: the Gathering - Shadows over Innistrad |OT| Blue's Clues
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
How did you beat this in limited?
Broodmate Dragon
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I still have my old DCI number from like...2008 or so, haha
It has eight digits, I get weird looks whenever I register for something
EDIT: Wait I think its even older, it might be from the Pokemon days...
It has eight digits, I get weird looks whenever I register for something
EDIT: Wait I think its even older, it might be from the Pokemon days...
divisionbyzorro
Member
It's not that hard as long as you're not Bant.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
A 3 mana uncommon that stonewalls everything (sans deathtouch) that's much more expensive sounds insane. In OGW I'd be looking for fortified ramparts and that's just an 0/6
why wouldn't you be bant?
I really doubt the next shard set will be a shard set in the way Alara was. They've been very upfront that they really, really struggled to create enough cards for each shard, and the failure thematically to capture the shards in the same way as the guilds of Ravnica.
I'm not sure how popular Alara was, but in my local area most people agree with the killingagoldfish review - a dreadful, uninspired block that didn't have enough creativity to justify its existence and was full of randomly powerful multi-coloured cards that didn't hold together at all. Plus limited was bloody awful.
I'm not sure how popular Alara was, but in my local area most people agree with the killingagoldfish review - a dreadful, uninspired block that didn't have enough creativity to justify its existence and was full of randomly powerful multi-coloured cards that didn't hold together at all. Plus limited was bloody awful.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Because Jund is life.
charlequin
Banned
Yeah, basically every decision in this set was bad: the all-gold gimmick was bad, the things they had to do to fix mana were bad, the mechanic cascade is awful, the creative treatment on the world is completely incoherent, the cards are mostly split between hot garbage and ludicrously overpowered stuff. It felt at the time like a throwback to the pre-Maro era of non-planned blocks, and when it came out later that the entire block was planned around the idea of this all-gold set as the capstone it suddenly made a lot more sense how they got so far off the sidewalk.
The thing that really stuck with me on this is that people asked why they didn't do watermarks and the answer was basically that if they'd done them they wouldn't have had a coherent way to use them on the bizarre mash-up stuff in ARB and, well... I feel like that should've been a sign?
That's from Shards of Alara (a better set than ARB.)
That's correct. They were all just regions before and they're all just stuck together now.
The thing about Alara is that partially by virtue of that incoherence, it has a ton of random cards that have proven powerful in the time since, and (much like Kamigawa) it came out before Commander was a big thing but had a ton of cards perfectly suited to a life in that format so it has a bit of a false-nostalgia sheen for people who like playing Sedraxis or Sphinx of the Steel Wind or Mayael or whatever.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Alara was the perfect set to introduce mythics.
Just look at this, IIRC that was the first.
Just look at this, IIRC that was the first.
Infinite Stars
Member
When we return to Alara, it's totally going to be post-conflux. The Meren UR+ everything we've heard from the plane since indicates that Bant+Naya are being overrun by the unholy hordes of Grixis, Jund is being Jund, and Esper has transformed into basically Magical Wakanda. That's ripe for a return as you don't have to hit the reset button to get a conflict. Also allows for you to have the symbols on the cards
However, the issue with returning to Alara is that of the 5 that we saw in Alara Block none of them are able to get there anytime soon, what with Elspeth being dead, Ajani being an Evangelical Athiest, Tezerret observing the Phyrexians, Sarkhan's on Tarkir, and Bolas is MIA. The only other Walker that has been to Bant is Gideon.
Like, I can't speak for Wizards, but it seems like there's a lot of plots that feel like they need to fire before we can do certain things. We likely won't go back to Alara without Elspeth/Ajani. Elspeth isn't returning back from the dead/Ajani isn't giving up his Richard Dawkins gig until we return to Theros, but we can't return to Theros until the Gatewatch goes there.
However, the issue with returning to Alara is that of the 5 that we saw in Alara Block none of them are able to get there anytime soon, what with Elspeth being dead, Ajani being an Evangelical Athiest, Tezerret observing the Phyrexians, Sarkhan's on Tarkir, and Bolas is MIA. The only other Walker that has been to Bant is Gideon.
Like, I can't speak for Wizards, but it seems like there's a lot of plots that feel like they need to fire before we can do certain things. We likely won't go back to Alara without Elspeth/Ajani. Elspeth isn't returning back from the dead/Ajani isn't giving up his Richard Dawkins gig until we return to Theros, but we can't return to Theros until the Gatewatch goes there.
Infinite Stars
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Since Wizards adopted the Gatewatch as their central narrative force. We won't have a block without a Gatewatch member, and the Gatewatch needs a reason to visit a place.
And Tamiyo is visiting Innistrad because it's moon is super unique and one of a kind.
charlequin
Banned
Yeah, but their charter is explicitly "help any random place out with extraplanar threats, really" so that's super flexible. At some point they have to pick back up on the Bolas storyline and then can pop over to Alara then.
SigmasonicX
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if Kaladesh involved Bolas, though indirectly because there are already probably two red planeswalkers. That's one reason why I expect Tezzeret to appear, even if I guess he isn't actually working for Bolas anymore.
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Very true, and that's the cool thing about the Tarkir idea. Rather than "the Asian plane" or "the Mongolian plane', it's much more accurately described as an Inner Asia or Eurasian Heartland plane, what remains of Asia when we cut off what we think of as the major civilizations: Greece/Rome, Sumer/Akkad, India, and China.
For Magic, they had conveyed the Silk Road's vibe of cultural and ethnic diversity remarkably well. Although one can argue Tarkir is still hamstrung by how one-dimensional Magic's depiction of the colors is, particularly black and red.
Specifically:
Abzan draws from Persia, seemingly with Towers of Silence replaced by kin-trees.
Jeskai has Tibetan/Nepalese/Bhutanese architecture married to an Avatar-inspired kung fu theme.
Sultai is all about imagining the Khmer Empire and Angkor Wat as a Temple of Doom-style Orientalist fantasy, with emasculated men practicing necromancy and throwing their enemies into crocodile pits.
Mardu is the weakest. It has nowhere near the richness of real steppe cultures.
Temur is Siberian shamanism.
Very true, and that's the cool thing about the Tarkir idea. Rather than "the Asian plane" or "the Mongolian plane', it's much more accurately described as an Inner Asia or Eurasian Heartland plane, what remains of Asia when we cut off what we think of as the major civilizations: Greece/Rome, Sumer/Akkad, India, and China.
For Magic, they had conveyed the Silk Road's vibe of cultural and ethnic diversity remarkably well. Although one can argue Tarkir is still hamstrung by how one-dimensional Magic's depiction of the colors is, particularly black and red.
Specifically:
Abzan draws from Persia, seemingly with Towers of Silence replaced by kin-trees.
Jeskai has Tibetan/Nepalese/Bhutanese architecture married to an Avatar-inspired kung fu theme.
Sultai is all about imagining the Khmer Empire and Angkor Wat as a Temple of Doom-style Orientalist fantasy, with emasculated men practicing necromancy and throwing their enemies into crocodile pits.
Mardu is the weakest. It has nowhere near the richness of real steppe cultures.
Temur is Siberian shamanism.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
In your guys' opinion, is rotation the best time to buy my playsets of the Battlelands? I know they're not "expensive" right now, but do you think they'll do anything in Modern? I get nervous lol
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Nah. They're dollar rares when they rotate.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Like Temples? Even with the land typing?
You forgot the worst part - the order on the collector's numbers is horrific.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
they are pretty much only good for edh and the rare 2 colour modern deck that cares about land types and is just 2 colours. On the other hand the same is true for temples sans the modern part so idk.
There's not really any reason to play them over the shocks or the ABUR duals in the older formats where those are legal.
charlequin
Banned
A Serious Man
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Cinder Glade sees some play in Valakut decks but that's about it. I mean, they're fetchable so maybe one day something will happen that causes them to be in demand but I wouldn't bet on it.
SigmasonicX
Member
I had multiple bombs- Thing in the Ice, Westveil Abby, and the 8 mana Angel. I had to literally splash a 1/3 blue creature for 2 just because I needed warm bodies for the deck!
My favorite part of the clans was they had a level of depth many previous factions in Magic didn't have. For example, the Abzan on the surface were just another community-focused White/Green faction with some necromancy thrown in, but then you look closer and there's all these interesting aspects like how they adopt the children of their enemies and assimilate them into their own culture as shock troops. Or how their necromancy is an extension of ancestral worship that also is expressed through the Kin-trees.
And then Dragons of Tarkir destroyed them. Man, Wizards is really dedicated to ruining their interesting settings.
Just got back from playing modern at FNM. Played modern goblins (8 whack) and didn't drop a game.
Game 1 played mono green stompy. He had some slower draws and mulled to 5 one game, really just couldn't keep up with the speed of the deck.
Game 2 played a mirror match he had burning tree for the turn 2 reckless bushwhacker. A little bit slow but I had some really good draws.
Game three against Merfolk. Never had any vials, but I was able to land piled river both games. He is a beater when attacking with legion loyalist for 12 damage pro blue, trample and first strike.
Game 1 played mono green stompy. He had some slower draws and mulled to 5 one game, really just couldn't keep up with the speed of the deck.
Game 2 played a mirror match he had burning tree for the turn 2 reckless bushwhacker. A little bit slow but I had some really good draws.
Game three against Merfolk. Never had any vials, but I was able to land piled river both games. He is a beater when attacking with legion loyalist for 12 damage pro blue, trample and first strike.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Doubling Season!!!
Wow, why isnt wasnt this used in the LAGP deck? Too high on the curved?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Remand
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Some kid showed up to play Modern last night to and had literally nothing but Fate Reforged draft chaff. He's beat me game 1. I was on Jund.
Joe Molotov
Member
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Is there any purer MtG pleasure than doming your opponent for 3 with a Bolt when they're at exactly three?
divisionbyzorro
Member
Gut Shotting them at one?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Winning at 0 cards in library.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Conceding on turn two Channel, denying them the chance even show you the Emrakul or Fireball.
"God's Beard!"
Member
I see how it is Bandini, ducking at 1-1 vs my Modern Mono-2CMC control deck 
I just wanted to Squelch a Nahiri ultimate :-(
To be honest, I thought I wouldn't even be close to winning one game with this thing.
I just wanted to Squelch a Nahiri ultimate :-(
To be honest, I thought I wouldn't even be close to winning one game with this thing.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";205628865]I see how it is Bandini, ducking at 1-1 vs my Modern Mono-2CMC control deck
I just wanted to Squelch a Nahiri ultimate :-(
To be honest, I thought I wouldn't even be close to winning one game with this thing.
I just wanted to Squelch a Nahiri ultimate :-(
To be honest, I thought I wouldn't even be close to winning one game with this thing.
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lol this looks gross
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";205628865]I see how it is Bandini, ducking at 1-1 vs my Modern Mono-2CMC control deck
I just wanted to Squelch a Nahiri ultimate :-(
To be honest, I thought I wouldn't even be close to winning one game with this thing.
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Joke's on you, I don't run Nahiri in that list! It's my current paper build, more aggressive with 4 Delver 4 Snapcaster 3 Geist 1 Resto.
Looking to pick up Nahiri fairly soon now that I've officially paid off my student loans as of 3 days ago.
I just wanted to Squelch a Nahiri ultimate :-(
To be honest, I thought I wouldn't even be close to winning one game with this thing.
Joke's on you, I don't run Nahiri in that list! It's my current paper build, more aggressive with 4 Delver 4 Snapcaster 3 Geist 1 Resto.
Looking to pick up Nahiri fairly soon now that I've officially paid off my student loans as of 3 days ago.
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