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[ElBoxyBrown]

Destiny was very...very successful

I know that but it sure cost Bungie a lot of internal drama and people leaving.

 

[The Jackdog]

"Someone who has never held a similar position calls everyone in similar positions dumb fucking idiots"

News at 11

 

[Boke1879]

Is it unreasonable for EA to think a World War 1 game might be a tough sell?

Hell, a lot of people think World War 1 was exclusively a trench war.

Nah you can't blame them at all. That's what they are there to do. Even now we don't know how well this game will sell. I think it'll do ok since it has the BF name attached to it, but would anyone even care about WW1 if it were another developer?

Despite my love for Destiny, that game almost destroyed Bungie so I don't think we can give MS slack for that.

Destiny has been very successful despite it's problems. I can promise you with announce of the new expansion and Destiny 2 people will go running back if they dropped the game.

 

[Omnistalgic]

I mean, it's Jim's whole schtick. He uses hyperbole and excessive cursing for attention, and it works.

If you're turned off by profanity and passionate ranting then you probably shouldn't watch Jim Sterling videos.

Not everyone knows who this guy is...

 

[Kill3r7]

I am not sure they are idiots. We, as gamers, have no skin in the game and are only interested in new exciting project regardless of whether or not the mass market supports them. Suits on the other hand are risk averse. If they are going to invest/gamble they would like to have the deck stacked in their favor. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Wait, what's going on, was the game canceled?

Battlefield 1? No, but it almost was.

 

[Eidan]

Or you can get over that not everyone talks and accepts profanity in their everyday speech.

And I doubt anyone is "twitching" the use of profanity is likely just annoying.

Nah, because only one of us is saying what language others should use to protect some people's delicate sensibilities.

EDIT: Sorry, I meant to say "Fuck that".

 

[Markitron]

Guy made a point, you insulted him.

Maybe you're the one that gets offended easily.

He came into the thread to tell everyone he's offended by bad language, what's the point there? It's borderline thread-whining. Also considering you hate Jim so much I don't know your bothering to come into the thread and start picking fights with people.

I don't see how you are equating my posts to being offended, we are talking about video games on a forum, I don't take it as seriously as you clearly do.

 

[NeOak]

I am not sure they are idiots. We, as gamers, have no skin in the game and are only interested in new exciting project regardless of whether or not the mass market supports them. Suits on the other hand are risk averse. If they are going to invest/gamble they would like to have the deck stacked in their favor. Nothing wrong with that.

That is why we have sequels and sequels and zzzzzzzzz

 

[Stilton Disco]

Is profanity and the use of the word "fuck" so important to convey a message these days?

Is it so necessary and appealing somehow?

Smh...

He's British, we swear constantly, it's just part of our culture.

 

[Jim Sterling]

Well then I guess, you simply contradict yourself basis your other videos, by generalizing and calling the entire lot of game industry executives "fucking idiots".

Nice movement of the goalposts there.

 

[Alienous]

I didn't know I wanted a WWI Battlefield. I'm still not sure and I'm a 'gamer' so I can hardly blame the executives.

 

[gunslikewhoa]

Do we really have to propagate the idea that all the people who run video game publishers and development houses don't know anything about gaming and are all morons?

Well, we are talking about the people who submarined The Saboteur and killed off Pandemic Studios.

 

[Jeffrey]

Executives are stupid at times, but generally they'd like to keep the company afloat and keep layoffs to a minimum.

So yeah people being wary about a big budget ww1 game seems normal.

And even then, expect a lot of controversy from this game. Anything about ww1 will be offensive to some group.

I pray for the marketing and pr folks at EA for this game.

 

[QuantumZebra]

Is profanity and the use of the word "fuck" so important to convey a message these days?

Is it so necessary and appealing somehow?

Smh...

... I take it you're new to Jim Sterling

 

[runningjoke]

I don't think the execs are idiots, they are just trying to go after the big money with zero risk. Can Life is Strange make a profit? Sure. But it'll be way less than a carbon copy shooter

 

[NeOak]

Well, we are talking about the people who submarined The Saboteur and killed off Pandemic Studios.

And Westwood Studios, and Bullfrog, and... too many to list.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

Water is also wet. But I can't disagree.

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[ElBoxyBrown]

I am not sure they are idiots. We, as gamers, have no skin in the game and are only interested in new exciting project regardless of whether or not the mass market supports them. Suits on the other hand are risk averse. If they are going to invest/gamble they would like to have the deck stacked in their favor. Nothing wrong with that.

That's how I kinda see it. For as much as we harp on companies not taking chances and doing something new we've seen too many projects fail for trying to do something new. Stuff like that scares them really really bad. It's a double edge sword for them.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

People crying over the use of the word fuck are fucking hilarious.

 

[mitchlol]

mmm I found him a little too salty this episode, had to turn down the volume so he was a light whisper, this issue doesn't really bother me. I buy what I like and am not invested enough to consider wanting something that isn't available.

 

[RipperGrim]

He puts far too much in those likes for the Battlefield trailer.

It's going to be hilarious to see CoD massively outsell BF as always and people will once again learn that there's a difference between the internet and real life.

 

[Kintaro]

Actually I think it can be a very fair point to make and one based in truth.

In every business place, you often find the higher up the ladder the less they actually know about the basics and what anyone heavily involved would consider common sense. Most higher ups tend to be there just to sign off on things and have very little experience themselves or at least it’s a surface level that they aren't able to put into perspective.

Just because someone is at the top of a video games company, it doesn’t mean they know exactly what their audience wants or that they have a good grasp of the current market.

On the flip side, just because you are their audience doesn't mean you have a good grasp on the stress and responsibility on approving something that will cost hundreds of millions of dollars (AAA gaming).

On the outside, they seem "fucking stupid." On the inside, could you deal with that kind of pressure? Press the button on hundreds of millions of dollars on a project that will involve so many people, so many careers, so many aspects, and answer to investors and bosses? On a premise of a war that is over 100 years old?

To their credit, that's a lot of stress to live with. =x

I don't mean to defend "executives", but that kind of stress isn't something I'd like. lol So, the fact they DID approve WW1 major AAA game after showing doubt and asking the questions that needed to be asked? They deserve a bit of credit.

 

[NeOak]

He puts far too much in those likes for the Battlefield trailer.

It's going to be hilarious to see CoD massively outsell BF as always and people will once again learn that there's a difference between the internet and real life.

Ooh COD will sell thanks to the remaster.

 

[RionaaM]

Most gaming executives are business people with little to no game development experience or even any interest in gaming.

They run their businesses just like any other business: maximize profit while minimizing risk. That means they turn out shitty, run of the mill, cookie cutter product backed by massive advertising.

Of course they're fucking idiots.

Where's the idiocy in this? If it brings them money, I'd say it's a pretty smart behavior. Could be anti-consumer, unappealing or boring, sure, but what you're saying doesn't seem an idiotic thing to me.

 

[SmartWaffles]

I expected a #FucKonami news, and did not disappoint.

 

[UnforgivenTwin]

He puts far too much in those likes for the Battlefield trailer.

It's going to be hilarious to see CoD massively outsell BF as always and people will once again learn that there's a difference between the internet and real life.

Yup. I doubt activision cares about the number of dislikes.

 

[Militaratus]

No, it's not necessary.

But I like to do it.

So there.

Fuck yeah!

Can't wait to watch the episode when I get home.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Ooh COD will sell thanks to the remaster.

COd was selling regardless step out of the hate box for 1 minute.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Nah, because only one of us is saying what language others should use to protect some people's delicate sensibilities.

EDIT: Sorry, I meant to say "Fuck that".

huh? The person you quoted comments was asking if it's "necessary" and he's obviously put off by it personally. Neither he or I was going on a tirade about how others talk. But your "get over it" comment is just dismissive of other people's views, and doing exactly what you are telling him to.

Be more accepting that not everyone views things like you.

 

[Auctopus]

He puts far too much in those likes for the Battlefield trailer.

Everybody does. It was a fanboy war and wasn't indicative of anything. The only reason they each 1 million likes/dislikes is because articles made a thing about there being such a possibility. The human race will come together to achieve the most pointless things sometimes.

Similar to the Instagram Skate 4 thing. It was happening a fair bit, then someone made an article and now every single comment is Skate 4.

 

[Kill3r7]

That is why we have sequels and sequels and zzzzzzzzz

True but in this case EA was gambling with their biggest FPS franchise. Mainline BF is a big deal for them as a company and they have to get it right. I can totally understand suits being apprehensive about rocking the boat too much.

 

[Luq]

They may be idiots from a gamer perspective, but whole industry is growing like CRAZY, so business-wise there's nothing wrong with their decisions.

 

[KurtSloane]

He came into the thread to tell everyone he's offended by bad language, what's the point there? It's borderline thread-whining. Also considering you hate Jim so much I don't know your bothering to come into the thread and start picking fights with people.

I don't see how you are equating my posts to being offended, we are talking about video games on a forum, I don't take it as seriously as you clearly do.

I am not taking it serious, but if you can't see you attacking somebody for making a simple point isn't wrong then I can't help you.

Your back seat modding is more egregious than his issue with swearing.

 

[True Fire]

All executives are idiots. I'd recommend reading up on the Sony Pictures Hack if you haven't already. It gives you an amazing insight into people who make millions of dollars a year.

 

[Markitron]

Yup. I doubt activision cares about the number of dislikes.

He's really only bringing the number of likes up to highlight that the BF1 trailer was well received.

 

[……forgetit]

Every mature industry has dumb executives, try following the film industry for a bit, now that shit is a headache.

 

[Servbot24]

Can't watch at work, but the text in the OP is really stupid. It's extremely easy to see why execs would be cautious about a WW1 game. The concept instantly sounds alarm bells.

Execs have killed a lot of great ideas, cuz guess what, the idea that good ideas and good games sell well is a completely unfounded myth.

 

[PtM]

Since Activision copyright claims Call of Duty trailer footage I've decided to use footage from literally any other military shooter because it makes no fucking difference, really…

Heh.

 

[valkyre]

... I take it you're new to Jim Sterling

No man, I am not new. Profanity is one thing, using it to generalize is the other.

Plus the fact that company executives have a lot of things to consider to keep a company profitable and I am sure as hell that the vast majority of them are not "fucking idiots".

But hell, I made a comment against a famous internet persona, so I may as well show myself out.

Peace.

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

People crying over the use of the word fuck are fucking hilarious.

And people so upset about such a mild "critique" that they make sexist insults is quite sad.

 

[Jim Sterling]

Nope, Jim's fans think he is some fountain of wisdom, i have read better insights and commentary on Twitter.

Guy is an attention seeker first and foremost.

 

[Markitron]

I am not taking it serious, but if you can't see you attacking somebody for making a simple point isn't wrong then I can't help you.

Your back seat modding is more egregious than his issue with swearing.

He didn't make a point, also I did retract that insult almost as soon as I posted it.

And pointing out thread whining is not backseat modding

 

[Geg]

I love the music during the pachinko machine trailer, what a perfect fit for Konami's ridiculousness

 

[GeordieMark]

No man, I am not new. Profanity is one thing, using it to generalize is the other.

Plus the fact that company executives have a lot of things to consider to keep a company profitable and I am sure as hell that the vast majority of them are not "fucking idiots".

But hell, I made a comment against a famous internet persona, so I may as well show myself out.

I agree with you. If Jim really believes this, he's the fucking idiot.

 

[Tecnniqe]

The Great European War!

Fucking amazing how fuckers at the top can be so fucking wrong all the fucking time.

And Westwood Studios, and Bullfrog, and... too many to list.

RIP Westwood. Taken too early from us.

Game Industry Executives Are Fucking Idiots

 

[DevilSnake]

To be fair I can't really blame the EA execs for being concerned with WW1. I saw hundreds of comments around the web that seemed to think it was exclusively trench warfare when the rumours came out. It's easy to point the finger now there's a polished trailer out but they were having concerns when there wasn't a prototype available & modern - futuristic games were selling millions of units. If they make the wrong call hundreds of people could lose their jobs.

The fact that they realised their mistake & allowed development to continue shows they're clearly not complete idiots.

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

This also applies to Microsoft A LOT. Closing Ensemble, not greenlighting Rare projects, fucking True Fantasy Live Online, passing on Destiny, XBO original DRM, etc.

Seems kind of silly to throw Microsoft under the bus and forget Sony and their many closing shift of studios and deaths of potential sequels.

 

[Clear]

Yea I can't blame Ea for this one they were right to be alil skeptical

Also dragging what happened with Demon's Souls in was way off base considering that Sony believed in the project enough to bankroll it, but only passed on publishing rights due to quality concerns over a near-final build being in particularly poor shape.

Yoshida made a mistake, but at least it was made based on quality concerns as opposed to editorial ones.

 

[Calm Mind]

#FucKonami always and forever