Bam Bam Baklava
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This guy again, "holding back content man"
Weren't there weapons in the trailer for TTK that we don't have to this day? Like that fire version of the Thunderlord.
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Weren't there weapons in the trailer for TTK that we don't have to this day? Like that fire version of the Thunderlord.
figadapaura
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Only thing that matters.
Ovek
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Being that this is DLC for an existing release, I don't think they're under any obligation to make a PS4K version.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Yup. Prison of Elders was originally a more raid like experience very early but was retooled.
A fallen raid has been rumoured since launch but never made it to a release window. Pyramidion (Mars location? Cabal ship?) and a Cabal raid was also planned but that looks like it's been shelved for D2 at this point.
A fallen raid has been rumoured since launch but never made it to a release window. Pyramidion (Mars location? Cabal ship?) and a Cabal raid was also planned but that looks like it's been shelved for D2 at this point.
Still a handful of exotic armor that's in the game but not obtainable, too.
InsaneTiger
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Stuff in trailers doesn't mean anything, we know shit can change. Maybe it was an idea, felt redundant and was scrap.
Yup.
They axed a lot of stuff throughout the whole lifespan of the game.
If you were one of the fucking dweebs (like me) that read all of the database pulls from Bungie.net since before the game came out you saw a ton of items and quests/raids that never came to be (game was supposed to have chapters like a halo game, have multiple raids at launch including the dark below one at least).
Dreadnaught was supposed to be in the original game and Osiris was supposed to be part of the game as well. Both were featured in trailers for the game like 1-1.5 yr out from release. They axed a fuckload of stuff due to all the issues and turmoil they had - shelved a lot of it for DLC/Destiny 2.
InsaneTiger
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Movalpolos
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robertsan21
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Hopefully not!
It's semantic in the sense that, from the player's perspective, the bottom line in either case is that promised content does not arrive until a later release with an additional price-tag attached. Whether Bungie failed to plan or planned to fail doesn't really matter because the players still have to pay again for content they were sold but didn't receive the first time.
Yup. Literally a repeat of what happened with Halo 2.
It keeps them from having to maintain multiple code sets though.
Everything in the Tower, as it exists, exists across all platforms.
Smokey_Run
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People don't use different guns now, so what's the difference if there is a burn or not? At least burns gave the raid weapons something unique since they are shackled by Crucible weapon balance.
I still hope for the day they can just give Crucible it's own set of weapons and switch to a loadout based system. Let exotics and raid weapons actually be interesting and creative. Nothing will change as long as someone gets to stand over someones shoulder and say "Well, this will kill the balance in PVP."
Future PhaZe
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ctrl f: new classes
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StalkerUKCG
Banned
Considering strikes are basically the end game content for players who don't raid weekly it seems kind of strange. My only thought is the live team will deliver strikes periodically and we will get remixed version of existing strikes with plauged fallen.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
at this point
it'll probably launch with 2 strikes, 1 ps+ exclusive, and 10 remixed strikes.</s>
It's probably just the last major update before Destiny 2 or something.
Destiny 2 should launch with like 10 that have variations. Nothing better to kill your playerbase than small amounts of repetitive content. Ah vanilla Destiny...
Now that you mention it, as much as I hate the idea of another year where half the strikes are reused from the previous expansions with new enemies, I'd actually love to have Devils' Lair make a comeback...
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Getting fans used to the idea of no last gen Destiny before the sequel goes crazy on current gen, possibly?
Movalpolos
Banned
Should have happened earlier.
I can't really see what the huge benefit of this change will be so late in the life of this game.
We can count as a certainty that stuff gets cut before release. However, I believe that 'planning for the future' is of minimal consequence when making these decisions. Everything that has ever been done with Destiny indicates a broken internal pipeline. What we get is the very best the team is capable of releasing in a given timeframe. Nothing is cut to be sold piecemeal. Pieces are sold because 'something has to be sold and this is what we got.'
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Almost everything about Destiny is haphazard which we can agree upon is worth a valiantry of effort to correct. The master plan theory of purposefully selling less content makes me laugh. If anything we unto ward want to sell more content! I completely understand the point of view that this is done on purpose and for that I would say the 100% infusion QOL change launching in companionship with microtransactable armor boxes is something worth considering when casting your aspersionitude about.
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Updated engine that isn't compatible with last gen systems?idk that's my guess.
Well Xbox gets the exclusive one from last year also.
Because these are not big news. They are most likely to be buried by other megatons announcements. I have no idea why people are so upset over game announcements made before E3.
theres got to be a Destiny 2 teaser or something at sony's conference. Destiny is huge for Sony in sales and the exclusive content they drag over.
I remember when I started TTK on the xbox in February and no one was doing half the open world quests in the search......still plenty showed up for PS4 though. I would love to see the gap in player bases between the two consoles.
Does anyone not buy the whole "upper Bungie management hated the story" deal. Story isn't something that you hide from upper management, they have meetings about this constantly. Assets and areas are being built from the story (we know Osiris and his area, + some amount of Dreadnaught were modeled out 1 yr + release of game)
I feel like it was more them telling story team "we have to butcher and throw out like 95% of your story because we can't make release and Activision won't push it back again. Keeping the story would be impossible because we have to ditch planets entirely and it wouldn't make any sense. We just have to ditch all of it and focus on getting something out the door."
And then Staten basically wouldn't take it lying down and created dissent trying to fight back so Bungie mgmt shunned and isolated him and his writing team as they wrested story away from him and did re-recording themselves.
I know in my heart of hearts this is so much more likely.
I feel like it was more them telling story team "we have to butcher and throw out like 95% of your story because we can't make release and Activision won't push it back again. Keeping the story would be impossible because we have to ditch planets entirely and it wouldn't make any sense. We just have to ditch all of it and focus on getting something out the door."
And then Staten basically wouldn't take it lying down and created dissent trying to fight back so Bungie mgmt shunned and isolated him and his writing team as they wrested story away from him and did re-recording themselves.
I know in my heart of hearts this is so much more likely.
Matchmaking for Raids is gonna be a hell. But this discussion comes back every update haha. For Nightfalls they can add it. Its not that difficult anymore in year 2 and no kick to orbit.
Guardian Monkey
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Yeah, totally agree. No idea why there's no matchmaking for the Nightfalls yet.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
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Imagine invoicing for that writing. What a job.
Imagine invoicing for that writing. What a job.
Just because it got announced doesn't mean it won't be on Sony's stage.
LifEndz
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Exactly. Gotta show that PS exclusive content.
Make it optional and problem solved.
I would imagine it's gonna come out whenever Joe Staten's NDA expires. But when he was asked for comment he was so fucking broken and sad about it, I don't know if he'll ever speak out.
They fucked up our boy dirty. It must have been a completely horrible, abusive, cancerous working environment for him.
I honestly feel like they should just make an "easy mode" version of a raid and do matchmaking for that. Simple mechanics that average players can learn and complete.
Then you can make friends and raid groups that way, and then do the harder raids with people you meet from there looking to step up the challenge and get better rewards.
I totally agree, fine with nightfalls but leave the raids alone.
Future PhaZe
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why do i have a feeling that this might be slightly struggle
no new classes
raid the size of crotas end
expansion is free
pls no
no new classes
raid the size of crotas end
expansion is free
pls no
Even if that was the case, surely what they had originally would have been better than the end result. Which was a barebones fucking joke with poor production.
I feel like the story was the internal scapegoat because we know the engine was a complete fucking mess and their ability to produce was hindered to a laughable degree. They dropped entire zones from the game because it was just unmanageable. So I think that the story blaming aspect is super fishy.
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