brettski2024
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Drugs are illegal too
Mass shooting at Orlando gay nightclub [50 dead, 53 injured]
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Square2015
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So how many individuals from Georgia have gone on mass rampages against LGBT communities?
Sgt. Kabukiman
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My thoughts to the victims, their loved ones and to America. I wish I could do something concrete from where I am right now. Such senseless evil makes my blood boil, especially after my country was a victim of similar acts not so long ago.
Lost its mind??
You have yet to engage yours. This is not an event with a singular influencer or causality. And multiple political and social issues are relevent to this event.
Thank you.
Are you saying as a Muslim it's okay to ignore / not do what Quran / Hadith clearly states. And you also know that Quran is seen not the same way as bible is seen by the Christians . Quran is unquestionable word of God .
And what do you mean " these teaching are not part of common society"... Take a look at countries where homosexuality is crime or punishable by death
The FBI doesn't shut those places down specifically to track folks who are on them.
The problem is that just reading those sites doesn't give the FBI enough to nail you.
Fushichou187
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I mean, I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
This was a few days ago:
ISIS 'kill list' targets Palm Beach, Treasure Coast residents: Ex-FBI agent
As I said, after that happened and nothing change I don't think anything ever will.
This time people will blame Muslims. Next time will just be something else. It's sad.
Bullshit.
The sooner the US tells the NRA to stick it up their ass and actually starts to address the issue with guns, the sooner the US will get their head on straight.
The fact that you're brushing off gang shootings and family related deaths as if they're nothing is a crock of shit. They're still a result of our systematic issue with guns.
I'm not opposed to gun ownership, I don't want a gun ban. I want sensible, logical rules regulating how to own an object that is solely designed to kill and cause destruction
Netherscourge
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It's saying (paraphrasing) gays were killed as per God's will; punishment for an unpure lifestyle, or some bullshit.
He used a Bible quote.
And then he finished with a "Have a blessed Sunday!" Pretty much exclaiming excitement about the shootings.
Maybe I'm misreading that, but it sure as hell looked awful fucking gleeful to me.
When's the last time you heard a legislator talking about trying to ban all guns? All the reforms Obama has ever proposed are reasonable and a majority of people support them. Don't try and make this a both sides are the same issue. One side is talking sense and proposing reasonable legislation and the other sticks their fingers in their ears and screams as loud as they can that the black helicopters are coming for your guns.
This is not a both sides are being unreasonable issue, you need to be honest about that.
SaganIsGOAT
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Where can I watch obamas speech?
Nvm I'm a dork, I found it
Nvm I'm a dork, I found it
Arrogant Bastard
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There is a vast majority that want moderate gun control. The problem is the NRA and their ilk see ANY movement on the issue as a full on war. The vast majority simply want minimal gun control; full background check, limit on magazine capacity, waiting periods, potential 'shock' ban on certain weapons.
Yep.
Yeah, I literally am speechless about the accusation of cherry picking. There is just nothing else to say at this point. To imply that the doctrines of Islam and the overwhelming majority opinion among scholars do not have an issue with homosexuality and that it's all just cherry picking is on the same level as holocaust denial.
Well of course, it's legal. Haha. I'm not arguing that there wouldnt be major hurdles with gun control laws, but it would absolutely hamper the amount of gun-violence crimes that are committed at an absurdly high volume in our country at the present time.
GoldenEye 007
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Well it looks like the shooter did pledge allegiance to ISIS right before the shooting via a 911 call.
Mass shootings don't happen this frequently.
Make your fucking point already. Are you really trying to argue that more gun control won't result in less shootings?
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
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Donald Trump is something of a buffoon but that tweet clearly says 'thanks for the congratulations but I don't want congratulations, I want toughness and vigilance'.
You mischaracterised it.
He's saying they had it coming.
Tarkus
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Arrogant Bastard
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His is point is simple. Criminals break laws, ergo we shouldn't have more laws/restrictions. It is that simple and rather silly.
Dreamwriter
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Oh? You somehow know his exact motivations and what his state of mind was and his abilities? Please elaborate. And you should probably contact the authorities too, to let them know all this detail you know about this individual and what he was trying to do.
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Are you suggesting that the legality of a substance has never swayed an individual's decision to obtain that substance?
Because in the context of mass shooting when a single human being has the power to take tens of lives, every individual deterred matters.
There's a big difference between slapping down $100 at a convenience store for a gun vs $1000 in a backroom deal. Equating the two as being the same difficulty is incredibly ignorant.
BarringGaffner
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ughh no he was publicly pointing out that he was right.
Yeah I can see your point. I guess since I'm not American, I'm not looking at this from the gun control perspective, and more as a continuation of what's been happening in Paris and Brussels. The pattern is a rise of Islamic extremism in the western world, and it's happening regardless of gun laws.
look at my response here:
I am quoting my Mother right now, who is an extremely devout Muslim. She prays five times a day and reads the Holy Quran for about 2 to 3 hours every morning. I just shared this news with her as we are watching CNN.
My Mother's response: OMG, this is terrible. Why did this guy do this?
I say: The media is saying that he was targeting LBGTQ community.
My Mother's response: So what if they were LBGTQ... They were not hurting anyone and *sighs*
To all the folks here thinking that this Islam related. Think again. Its not Muslims don't support this at all!
Clockwork5
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This is disgusting and frightening. I hope you come to understand that hatred is not the answer.
Looking at this account it looks like he has automated tweets go out every Sunday at 7AM based on a Bible verse.
He posted his second tweet about strength in troubled times an hour after the "reap what you sow." My guess is that his first tweet was just automated and not any specific commentary.
That said, as a Texan, I think Dan Patrick is an asshat.
No, not at all. Because there are atrocities committed in this country by Americans of all backgrounds. This is one sick fool. His parents didn't kill anyone.
That is absolutely disgusting and unhelpful thinking that only seeks to stereotype and divide people. The fact remains, he was an American who bought guns legally.
Good for all of you who apparently never had a bad experience with conservative religious people who read their holy texts rigorously and seriously. You probably never had violent arguments or family breakups just for being the way you are and could live peacefully instead.
Please don't assume that this is true for everyone else just because you have a positive anecdote to share.
Hippo_PRIME
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My thoughts are with the victims and their families.
I wish I could say I can't believe this is happening again...but of course it is. It's going to keep happening, isn't it?
I consider myself a pretty subdued guy, but I can't help getting emotional every single time this happens. Just so senseless and it really doesn't need to be this way. I can't help by feel anxious anytime I or my family is in public. I feel like I have to always be on alert because this just keeps getting worse and the American public just can't (or rather won't) do anything about it.
I wish I could say I can't believe this is happening again...but of course it is. It's going to keep happening, isn't it?
I consider myself a pretty subdued guy, but I can't help getting emotional every single time this happens. Just so senseless and it really doesn't need to be this way. I can't help by feel anxious anytime I or my family is in public. I feel like I have to always be on alert because this just keeps getting worse and the American public just can't (or rather won't) do anything about it.
After sandy hook I really thought it would be the tipping point for change in this country. I mean kids being gunned down how much more tragic can it get? But no years after and nothing has changed and it seems like people are even more divided now on the gun issue in this country. It's very sad that we never learn from our past mistakes and continue to allow these things to happen.
Thoughts to those affected. What a horrible thing to happen. Maybe one day when we get our heads out of our asses and directly attack the whole gun issue will we not continue to be the mass shooting country of the developed world.
Thoughts to those affected. What a horrible thing to happen. Maybe one day when we get our heads out of our asses and directly attack the whole gun issue will we not continue to be the mass shooting country of the developed world.
There's little difference in between a device you'd use to remove a tree stump and what you'd use to kill people.
Often the only difference is you'd add fragmentation to a device used to harm people.
Vire
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MistaBowaa
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The White House also has a YT livestream for the Obama speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wCQDVdPq3I
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Vilix
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Yeah, I pretty much figured as much. When he was a sports caster he was an asshole. Some things just never change.
I'm not against criticism of a religion or talking about how to stop the hate, discrimination, and even killings of innocents based off beliefs and because of ignorance on guns. I will always have a disgust with religion. I am not against opinion or even hating something. But to peach hate, to wish it on possible innocents? FUCK that.
there is a reason why that poster would be a disgrace to someone like MLK JR. That same guy who, you know, was treated like an animal with his whole race yet never wanted to start violence or hate. Because anyone with a brain knows all that does is make even more hate. How the fuck is getting off burning a church to the ground,a form of razing (oops a child was in there lol right?) is being better than this shooter? Sorry but there is a reason hate always leads to something bad, even if it seems like something logical.
Wrong Dan Patrick. Look at my response, was not intended to be a comment on the shooting, just an automated posting.
He is an asshole though.
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