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[Angry Grimace]

Has anyone seen this video of Al Snow's thoughts on TNA/Wrestling Fans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfSXLh-JpsA

That was just word salad for "You aren't in the business so you know nothing IWC" which is a lame as fuck explanation for just casually dismissing the entire audience.

 

[Heel]

Thinking the Internet Sports Entertainment Community is the entire audience speaks directly to his point.

 

[Sephzilla]

http://www.iwnerd.com/stephanie-mcmahon-interview-says-goal-character-put-others/

...Who has she put over?

 

[Aiii]

Thinking the Internet Sports Entertainment Community is the entire audience speaks directly to his point.

Not siding with any side of this dumb as fuck argument.

But lol at pretending wrestling has an audience outside of the internet geeks.

 

[Bluekaveli]

The Chiodas elbow!

 

[FallingEdge]

You were gone?

 

[Bluekaveli]

According to pwinsider.com, WWE has applied for a number of trademarks for “Clash of Champions.” One of the trademarks is for a television show. With the news of the brand split, and rumors of more PPVs/WWE Network specials going around, this will likely cause a lot of speculation.

http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-files-for-clash-of-the-champions-trademarks/

 

[dream]

strobobo actually challenged me on my appreciation of TNA, and we had a good talk, as we always do, in which I showed him the ways in which, outside of Joe and Nakamura, TNA is putting on a better product than NXT. WWE is perpetually shite, so TNA is, by default, putting on a better product than Titan. And nobody watches Ring of Honor, so who cares.

Basically, we determined that a very legitimate case can be made for TNA being the best pro wrestling company in America right now.

 

[Sephzilla]

strobobo actually challenged me on my appreciation of TNA, and we had a good talk, as we always do, in which I showed him the ways in which, outside of Joe and Nakamura, TNA is putting on a better product than NXT. WWE is perpetually shite, so TNA is, by default, putting on a better product than Titan. And nobody watches Ring of Honor, so who cares.

Basically, we determined that a very legitimate case can be made for TNA being the best pro wrestling company in America right now.

but but but Lucha...

 

[Kaladin]

I remember back when they had three brands (Raw, Smackdown and ECW) thinking they could do a new version of World War 3.

Get three rings, each ring full of a separate brand's competitors and the winners of each ring face off in a inter-promotional triple threat for a #1 contenders spot on the brand of their choosing.

 

[dream]

but but but Lucha...

Is that even really considered pro wrestling though? Last time I saw it, it was all men hitting women, men hitting men with nunchucks, and Lorenzo Lamas.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Boy there's an entire period of WWE that's just unwatchable due to heel Cole. How the fuck did that last more than a single PPV?

 

[Heel]

Not siding with any side of this dumb as fuck argument.

But lol at pretending wrestling has an audience outside of the internet geeks.

Yes, Aiii, the millions of WWE fans worldwide hate Roman Reigns and John Cena, so much so that they spend Monday through Wednesday pacing a hole in the floor, counting down the hours until the Nielsen ratings are released in the hopes that they're bad.

 

[klonere]

I'm pretty sure the WWE is all in on the IWC being the only audience anymore sorry Al Snow

 

[Mizerman]

Boy there's an entire period of WWE that's just unwatchable due to heel Cole. How the fuck did that last more than a single PPV?

Seriously. What was a decent idea became drawn out and boring overtime.

 

[Aiii]

Yes, Aiii, the millions of WWE fans worldwide hate Roman Reigns and John Cena, so much so that they spend Monday through Wednesday pacing a hole in the floor, counting down the hours until the Nielsen ratings are released in the hopes that they're bad.

Ah and now we are pretending a hive mind exist. Haha, good one.

 

[Sephzilla]

Is that even really considered pro wrestling though? Last time I saw it, it was all men hitting women, men hitting men with nunchucks, and Lorenzo Lamas.

I guess you do have a point there. I'd say its a very different version of pro-wrestling, at least.

Boy there's an entire period of WWE that's just unwatchable due to heel Cole. How the fuck did that last more than a single PPV?

Heel Cole + Anonymous Raw GM was a truly awful one-two punch.

 

[Bluekaveli]

No no Torrie through the table , damnit.

 

[dream]

Isn't iSEC inherently a hive mind?

I mean, I can't help but notice that 90% of wresting gaf has avatars of das wunderkind Alex wright...

 

[klonere]

Isn't iSEC inherently a hive mind?

careful dream you don't want to make a statement that speaks about the basic makeup of what is known as a "community" or "fandom" or the like

 

[Aiii]

Isn't iSEC inherently a hive mind?

Do you agree with every opinion everyone in here has, because all of us are ISEC. Yes, you too.

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

I liked heel Cole. Face King was the problem.

 

[Lightning Count]

Isn't iSEC inherently a hive mind?

I mean, I can't help but notice that 90% of wresting gaf has avatars of das wunderkind Alex wright...

I think they must have lost a bet.

 

[Nocturnowl]

How do I know you're not a shill for TNA Dream? I still remember you forking over the cash to watch Hogan vs Sting in 2011, the appeal of witnessing two has-been broken down drug addicted con men try to relive their faded glory was too much to pass up.

On the other hand, the saga of Brother Nero and Broken Matt Hardy makes a great case for TNA right now.

 

[Angry Grimace]

How about we fire the third guy and just have Mauro and Corey Graves?

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

I can't believe they're still dragging the fucking Baron Corbin and Dolph Ziggler feud out. And for the second time in a row it can't even get on the main show of a PPV.

WAIT FUCK IT'S ACTUALLY THE THIRD TIME IN A ROW

 

[Data West]

How do I know you're not a shill for TNA Dream? I still remember you forking over the cash to watch Hogan vs Sting in 2011, the appeal of witnessing two has-been broken down drug addicted con men try to relive their faded glory was too much to pass up.

On the other hand, the saga of Brother Nero and Broken Matt Hardy makes a great case for TNA right now.

Hogan vs Sting was a classic, brother

 

[Bluekaveli]

I liked heel Cole. Face King was the problem.

You and me both brutha, fuck the haters.

 

[Aiii]

How do I know you're not a shill for TNA Dream? I still remember you forking over the cash to watch Hogan vs Sting in 2011, the appeal of witnessing two has-been broken down drug addicted con men try to relive their faded glory was too much to pass up.

On the other hand, the saga of Brother Nero and Broken Matt Hardy makes a great case for TNA right now.

After watching Kimbo verse Dada, only Sting verse Hardy comes close as far as trainwrecks go. Everything else is a win.

 

[Heel]

I'm pretty sure the WWE is all in on the IWC being the only audience anymore sorry Al Snow

Ah and now we are pretending a hive mind exist. Haha, good one.

Al Snow was speaking to a very specific, contemptuous, like-minded vocal minority. Let's not pretend like they don't exist, even in this very thread, now that they've had their position challenged. If the shoe fits, wear it.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Hogan vs Sting was a classic, brother

After watching Kimbo verse Dada, only Sting verse Hardy comes close as far as trainwrecks go. Everything else is a win.

Maybe I'm just jealous I didn't witness it unfold live.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Al Snow was speaking to a very specific, contemptuous, like-minded vocal minority. Let's not pretend like they don't exist, even in this very thread, now that they've had their position challenged. If the shoe fits, wear it.

Dude's speech was barely coherent and to the extent it was it was like "You don't have experience in the BUSINESS so you don't know what you're talking about."

I mean, I don't really know how he reaches that conclusion as a completely general proposition.

 

[Data West]

I mean, TNA is pretty trashy, but I don't think anyone who watches WWE programming every week can scoff at TNA from their perch.

 

[dream]

Yes, I admit to paying for Hulk vs Stinger on PPV. But it was worth it. Especially since the entire month prior, wrestling gaf was insisting that because TNA was running in the house of hardcore, the city of brotherly love, and the house that Sabu built, the fans would absolutely shit on Hulk vs. stinger.

Instead wrestling gaf watched in horror as they slowly realized that the entire crowd was marking out for hulk because the hardest of the hardcore are hulkamaniacs.

 

[klonere]

I have now watched Mashimo/Miyahara 4 times.

It is a very good match friends.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x47tzwa

 

[Ithil]

The only time the "ISEC" has a hivemind is when you have an opinion you want to present/prop up as being special so you pretend everyone else is against it.

 

[GunBR]

...Who has she put over?

 

[Aiii]

Al Snow was speaking to a very specific, contemptuous, like-minded vocal minority. Let's not pretend like they don't exist, even in this very thread, now that they've had their position challenged. If the shoe fits, wear it.

Again, I have no interest in this discussion at all. I neither watch much of wrestling, nor have I watched the Al Snow video.

But what I will (continue to) argue that the hardcore fan is Wrestling's only audience. There is no casual interested for wrestling outside maybe WrestleMania, but that could hardly be considered an audience. The only people that watch this crap are the hardcores.

 

[Mizerman]

Using "hivemind" as a term is usually a way to deflect criticism. Badly.

Just like employing the tried and true Appeal to Accomplishment Technique.

 

[Anth0ny]

http://www.iwnerd.com/stephanie-mcmahon-interview-says-goal-character-put-others/

uh........... huh.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

but but but Lucha...

To me LU is more of a drama than wrestling. It's like I'm watching Daredevil

Boy there's an entire period of WWE that's just unwatchable due to heel Cole. How the fuck did that last more than a single PPV?

I didn't watch any wresting during that time, but when i watched the PPV's with Heel Cole and I kind of loved it. He did fantastic as a heel.

 

[Ithil]

Using "hivemind" as a term is usually a way to deflect criticism. Badly.

Just like employing the tried and true Appeal to Accomplishment Technique.

They're about a hair away from saying "sheeple" when they resort to blabbering about hiveminds.

 

[dream]

So you're telling me that everyone in wrestling gaf independently decided that Dean Ambrose is an entertaining professional wrestler who should be world champion?

 

[Aiii]

I don't agree with any of what you just said, so there you go. So much for that.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Christian gives glasses to kid, takes them away because the kid was "too ugly" lol!

 

[Ithil]

So you're telling me that everyone in wrestling gaf independently decided that Dean Ambrose is an entertaining professional wrestler who should be world champion?

No, that's a thing you made up in your mind so you could disagree with it, proving yourself right about a thing you made up to be right about.

 

[jmdajr]

Central Intelligence has no score yet.

But I'm thinking 25ish at the Box Office.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Hardyz are the NEW wCw tag team champions! What a crazy turn of events

 

[dream]

Cagey, do you remember when wrestling gaf insisted that Dean Ambrose was an entertaining pro wrestler and deserved to be world champion?

 

[Sephzilla]

So you're telling me that everyone in wrestling gaf independently decided that Dean Ambrose is an entertaining professional wrestler who should be world champion?

I don't like Dean Ambrose that much though