optimus8936
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Exactly, torbs turrets will still be really good, you just need to help it kill people now instead of letting it kill half a team by itself.
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You can thank Sony and Microsoft and their certification process for the delays though. The only way they would release competitive at the same time on PC and consoles is if they hold back on updating PC until Sony and Microsoft get their ducks in a row. Not really Blizzard's fault if the console manufacturers take a few weeks to push out updates. This whole process is also the reason why console versions usually get larger and less frequent patches than PC.
orthodoxy1095
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That's a legendary community. Ridiculous how many OTs they've gone through.
I wouldn't mind a slight nerf to the sentry on PC, maybe 10%, but he's very manageable as is - just a pain in the ass on a few maps.
No matter how long certification processes can take, they can tell us about changes IMO. I'm sure they've already sent an update with McCree, Widow and competitive mode to Sony & MS. So to just say "hey, mccree nerf is coming" isn't that hard.
And why did they release competitive on PTR one week before full release? That's what bothers me. They knew about certification and did everything to delay competitive on consoles. I would be happy if I'm wrong.
There's this. Hopefully not as many Torb PotG where he's just sitting back as the turret racks up kills.
The problem is and always has been hero stacking. A single Torb is manageable on consoles, but a stacked Torb requires teamwork, which can not be found in pubs.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
For solo players, perhaps. But good solo players were never using it as a killing machine anyways.
I still think Torb stacking will be as shitty as ever.
im not sure you get how this works
Because you have to go post to find a group since Destiny doesn't have matchmaking for a lot of stuff.
I'm mainly PC overwatch (although I own PS4 too) but they said they would balance the game differently there. for sure there is no need to nerf Widow on console with her having 14% less K/D on consoles then PC. heck, I never thought she needed nerf on PC to begin with
It's a good thing consoles trail PC I don't get the complaints. They obviously needed some tweaking to Tborn though.Reddit proposed very good stats and logical reasons why consoles need that tweak. His Win rate is #1 in a big way. consolers gettin massacred lol
It's a good thing consoles trail PC I don't get the complaints. They obviously needed some tweaking to Tborn though.Reddit proposed very good stats and logical reasons why consoles need that tweak. His Win rate is #1 in a big way. consolers gettin massacred lol
What makes you think they've pushed that patch for certification? They pushed competitive to the public test region to test how it works, which implies they're still making changes to it. I would assume they push competitive mode for certification when they are ready to push those changes out on PC, not earlier. If the patch was already in certification, why would they be testing the mode in PTR?
I spent 18 hours with Widow on PS4 and even I agree that she needs the same nerf. Her bodyshots are too powerful and Zenyatta is useless because of them. I feel bad for all Zenyattas I kill lol.
Well they already told us about changes for this season (like 4 minutes matches instead of 5) and they probably won't change anything after that. So maybe (maybe!) they sent this update a couple days ago.
Kaffeemann
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According to Overbuff I'm in the 88th percentile worldwide.
Not sure how they came up with that number, but at least I'm not total trash
Not sure how they came up with that number, but at least I'm not total trash
Also, now it seems like every single game is a sweat match post level 100. Nearly every match I join has a player with a star under their name and while these games usually end up being more fun they seem really try-hardy for casual. Maybe these will thin out a bit with when Competitive Mode arrives.
ViewtifulJC
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I damn near retired McCree after the nerf, can't lie. I can still get kills with him and shit, but I'm better off picking Solder(faster mobilty, self reliant health boost, long range burst damage), Reaper (the Tank killer, gets back to objectives faster with teleports, self reliant health boost with orbs and shadow forms out of bad situations), Pharah(supreme height advantage, big damage, verticality and escape situations), or even Genji(way higher mobility, gets to different areas with ease, can pick people off from a distance or up close, can escape bad situations with slash/reflect/double jump). I feel like with McCree if I dont murder them real quick I'm pretty fucked solo cuz of his roll is useless for escapes and his mobility getting back to the point is trash. Like why even pick this dude anymore lol
Widow needed a nerf, the Widow meta was extremely strong.
Agreed.
Reaper/Soldier just have more sustainability.
Nah, he's complete trash at higher MMRs and competitively.
If you're having problems with Torb, Zarya is a hard counter and any long range DPS does well, Pharah, Mcree, Soldier.
More Fun To Compute
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If you feel like you can't reliably get headshots with the pistol then your McCree is not going to do too well. I think that Mei is the same but the delay and travel time makes it even harder. McCree really feels the lack of self heal though and seem to do best when he is played like he is joined at the hip with support or tank.
Antiwhippy
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I actually feel like my mccree play is suffering because I'm used to leading shots with mei.
The thing about him now is that he depends more on team synergy now more than ever, the more they kickass you can, before he was almost a one man army.
Playing in random matches is still frustrating as fuck. People refuse to push on capture. I can get two kills and get to the point, start begging people to push and they will still be weaving back and forth at the choke point. So many games lost because people are treating this like it is COD still, too worried about K to D.
Shake Appeal
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Yeah, same here. I just split my McCree time on Soldier/Reaper, whichever makes more sense versus their comp.
LonelyGreyWolf
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The game will always do team-balancing. Might be that this was a 5v5 with you and another random thrown in.
Shake Appeal
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They didn't account for the stun not lasting long enough to ensure a fan kill on Reaper, who McCree is meant to be a counter to.
EroticSushi
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I'm seeing all sorts of stuff, Reapers everywhere including hacked reapers on two ocassions, one didnt even try to hide his trigger bot last night.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
The best when the hammer connects with those players jumping up and down thinking that'll stave off the ass whooping that hammer brings them
My favorite 3 class kills to cherish are Tracer, who just flies up in the air and that British Ugh! expelling before death
Hanzo and his bow and that smirk just washing away
Mercy who just eats the hammer and falls graciously to a defeated state
I'll take that any day, getting stunned with a flashbang from behind of all things and dying to fan was the worst.
Dead Prince
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the feel when you hit prestige and you level up quick when it restarts. gives you that #nolife feel
Tracer is lovely to knock the fuck out. Comes with her speed and thinks she's something cool on the payload, then FACE
So satisfying.
Unless she's got the pulse bomb
Conversely, it feels so good when you can out maneuver Reinhardt as Lucio. I love being a huge pain in the ass now that I've gotten used to Lucio's wall grinding skill. Last night, I had multiple games where the other team could not kill me.
He has the same 5.5 movespeed as most heroes and he doesn't need to be in your face like reaper to get kills. My suggestion was increased fan accuracy another asked for increased stun one or the other works. He now has less burst on his fan than reaper which is fair.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I hate that if Mcree triggers High Noon and doesn't get anyone or cancels it, you still get back to 50% of your Ultimate
Played a game where our team stopped his High Noon going off 4 times, its stupid that if he doesn't trigger, he saves 50% and gets to spam it
Sorry Mcree if you can't use your High Noon right go back to 0% like everyone else
Played a game where our team stopped his High Noon going off 4 times, its stupid that if he doesn't trigger, he saves 50% and gets to spam it
Sorry Mcree if you can't use your High Noon right go back to 0% like everyone else
Shake Appeal
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The McCree fix should have kept the power of Fan the Hammer, but made it less available to use. Just put it on a cooldown, or else take the free reload off the roll. Instead, they've made it sort of useless against any heroes with >200HP, most notably Reaper, who can vape away before all of the bullets land.
You can still get Tracers and Genjis fine, provided they get close enough and move predictably enough. And his left click is still fantastic, but simply not as reliable as Soldier's. Who also has a self-heal and sprint.
You can still get Tracers and Genjis fine, provided they get close enough and move predictably enough. And his left click is still fantastic, but simply not as reliable as Soldier's. Who also has a self-heal and sprint.
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