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I don't think I've ever died to a fan the hammer as Reaper since the patch. I'm not entirely sure that's necessary since McCree has far more midrange potential than Reaper, but I do think its odd that McCree has only 200 health. I don't really think roll is a very effective escape or intiation tool, so it doesn't make a ton of sense that McCree has the same health as Genji. As a character designed to counter flanking he should probably be more durable. He's going to get jumped on he should have the ability to recover from that.
Both Roadhog and Dva regularly feel like they're just there in matches to act as tanky offense heroes who are headshot magnets. Dva with her huge headshot hit box and Roadhog by healing in front of an enemy.
Ricerocket
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Just saw the -30% dmg nerf on Torb's turret for consoles coming post. That's huge, and even more for people who play a hero that has no problem with the turrets in the first place. I guess it makes sense because console users have to have their aim at the turret before peaking while on PC, we just peak and snap our aim at anything we see in a fraction of a sec and shoot.
No.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
If you play roadhog and Dva and you're not flanking you're playing them wrong.
It's like that, more or less, on consoles as well, as long as it's only one Torb on the team.
Not the peak and snap your aim obviously, but a single Torb should never be something you can't manage unless you're team is real bad.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
As always, the only tanks who should actually tank front in is reinhardt. Every other tank is built to weave in and out of corridors.
Saucycarpdog
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Anyway have some good tips for how to move with Tracer? I can't ever stay alive long enough while other Tracer players can run circles around my whole team.
GraveRobberX
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Mcree shouldn't be a Tank killer, agitator OK or pick of tank with low health
Reaper you can understand why he's a tank buster
Mcree suppose to humble Tracers and Genjis who sometimes flank and pick off support
Problem is players play him front line when he's suppose to be mid/back line covering everyone's rear
FTH needs a cool down, of certain seconds
You can do your combo of Bang > FTH > Roll > FTH but then FTH needs to go on like a 5 sec cooldown so by the time bang and roll are back up, so is FTH
Most players who play Mcree don't even use the regular fire of his pistol
All I see them is lie in wait or flank and hide and pick of 1 target at a time and always use High Noon from high vantage point behind enemy lines
Meanwhile Tracer/Genji or any flanker skilled enough has been causing chaos in your teams back line and your wondering why no ones here with you
Only once have I seen a Mcree shoot 6 bullets completely one by one from a far to take out a Torb turret, I as Soldier76 felt so confused, like Mcree has a regular fire
Not just FTH, I mean when player cards show up and if its a Mcree its always how many FTH eliminations he got
I'm guessing firet picked?
Memorize map layout and health packs. You definitely need to memorize health pack locations. Pace your self with the blinks too you want to have atleast one stockpiled.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Strafing
You almost want to DOT your enemy into submission
I blink ever reload, after 3 blinks burned, rewind
Repeat
Roadhog is the best if you can flank him not for elimination purposes but to feed your Ultimate
He's an Ultimate battery for you
So many Pulse bombs gotten when he's on the other side
Really helps level the playing field to insta remove a Torb camping his turret, netting you a double or a Bastion entrenched your team can't reach
Best is when a Zarya works with you and you tell them your Ultimate is ready, then your Hear "I'm going for...", just run in from behind, place bomb, rewind, multikill
Zarya?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Her shielding capability is too sporadic and short and she doesn't exactly have the biggest healthpool so you'd want to weave in and out of gunfights constantly.
At some point it's pubs and more things work than don't so whatever, but if you want to actually tank the only option is reinhardt.
W/L is based on who you finish the match with. Everything else is based on time actually playing the hero.
NahReaper is OP in part because of the McCree nerf.
He could use a buff
Dead Prince
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debuff when against tanks plz. less click headshot sounds and make everything be bodyshots
Strangelove77
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So what's the deal with Hanzo?
Maybe it's only on consoles, but he can get headshots just by looking at you it seems. I get head shotted by Hanzo I'd say 2 or 3 times as much as I do by Widowmaker. He's a better sniper.
But the kill cam shows that people who use him aren't really aiming that well, sometimes they cant even see you but as soon as you're in their view they head shot you.
Is it an aim assist thing? I don't know a lot about this sort of technical thing, but I doubt it's all skill. If it were, I'd be getting killed all the time by Widowmaker as well.
Maybe it's only on consoles, but he can get headshots just by looking at you it seems. I get head shotted by Hanzo I'd say 2 or 3 times as much as I do by Widowmaker. He's a better sniper.
But the kill cam shows that people who use him aren't really aiming that well, sometimes they cant even see you but as soon as you're in their view they head shot you.
Is it an aim assist thing? I don't know a lot about this sort of technical thing, but I doubt it's all skill. If it were, I'd be getting killed all the time by Widowmaker as well.
Dead Prince
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that's hanzo being hanzo pc and console lol
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Dead Prince
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why not $24,000 so it's an easier money split lol
Hit hitboxes on the arrows are enormous
He can aim at your chest and get a headshot
Strangelove77
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Lucio is fairly easy to learn imo. He seems pretty helpful just being selected. Symmetra is also situationally really good too, although her viability really drops off after certain scenarios on control or defense. I still can never really justify picking Zenyetta since his mobility is just too poor.
Edit: Sigh, another pug tale. Dropped into a midgame on Dorado on attack, with a Symmetra. We were losing pretty bad, so I asked why they were using Symmetra since we're attacking and got no response. We lost the match, and got a courteous "noob" message.
Kayo Police
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Which is why IMO the 2 tank meta is so damn good.
ViewtifulJC
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I dont think I've ever died to a McCree as Reaper post-nerf.
He's not bad, but its not a coincidence competitive play has gone from 1-2 McCree on every team to him being replaced by Reaper/Pharah/Solder almost entirely. His mobility and sustainability is so ass compared to them, and he no longer has the close-range damage to make up for it. Viable, but given the choice he's way down the list for DPS characters now.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Yeah Widow is pin point precision
Hanzo has the running joke that his Arrows are tree logs
Just shoot within vicinity of target and profit
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Lucio is one of the most fun characters because of pushoff and wall running! Do it!
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Today I experienced the horror of playing with randoms on a Sunday.
Defense maps were absolutely a nightmare, no one but me capable of stopping the payload because everyone's either a bastion, hanzo, widow or torb.
On the other hand, I got this:
Nothing better than getting punched to death by Mei.
Defense maps were absolutely a nightmare, no one but me capable of stopping the payload because everyone's either a bastion, hanzo, widow or torb.
On the other hand, I got this:
Nothing better than getting punched to death by Mei.
Had a moron on my team arguing with me that getting kills was more important than controling the point. Most of the team listened to him so half the time our team was off point, looked at my gold on obective the 4 enemies always on point, and just left the match. Tgus was a king of the hill match btw.
Its okay to ignore enemies sometimes... Why dont people get this?
Its okay to ignore enemies sometimes... Why dont people get this?
Not Spaceghost
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This is my favorite thing right now
I've not played as or against a post nerf Mcree yet (since I'm on console) but wouldn't an easy solution be to slightly up the fire rate of his primary fire and maybe a 5% damage boost on it too? It would possibly make him slightly more viable by letting him participate in fire fights from range and still let his FTH be for flankers like Tracer and Genji.
Mocha Nova Coffee Scotia
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Just started playing the game ryhe other night and loving it so far. Had loads of fun playing as soldier 76, junk rat and Lucio. Even tried a round of payload defender with torb to try out his turret. Super effective when you have a decent team to keep people off its flanks. Even got one of my first potg's where I was dead and my turret shot one person lol.
Psn I'd is d124 if anyone wants to party up! will be playing sporadically over the next week.
Psn I'd is d124 if anyone wants to party up! will be playing sporadically over the next week.
Zenyatta seems made for attacking on payload maps in particular. Paired up with good tanks, a well timed Transcendence can push through a full enemy team at one go and basically turn the match around.
Complistic
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Doctor's orders even. That was hilarious.
Late July and I'm sure single Torb will be scarce, but who knows if this nerf will even fix the real problem of Multi Torb.
Thats hilarious.
Kayo Police
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God I love Moon Moon.
There's been some good advice here already, but I'd add that, with Tracer, your priority isn't always to get a kill. Sometimes you add a lot of value just by being a distraction, whittling down the HP of your enemies, and forcing them to heal/look for you, which takes their attention off of the objective. This obviously requires your team to take advantage of the opportunity. But still, I find myself a lot more successful on Tracer when I get myself out of the "kill kill kill" mindset, and just take potshots and annoy the enemy team.
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