Those two countries cannot print their own money and there's another shit storm coming. I don't think the German taxpayer is going to take anymore beating. UK at least can still print and eventually adjust to economic conditions ahead.
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Those two countries cannot print their own money and there's another shit storm coming. I don't think the German taxpayer is going to take anymore beating. UK at least can still print and eventually adjust to economic conditions ahead.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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To be fair I was more talking internationally, not domestically. The UK economy will have to drop considerably to even come close to the Greek one.
Doesn't change the fact that on the world stage, we are pretty much irrelevant now
OK, so fuck those poor people. And the ones that voted to remain in the "good" cities, but are poor?
My kinda welsh girl believes that every single article that is saying anything negative about the effects of the brexit, is just blatent fear mongering and its just all a lie or blown up. She also believes that all the points that remain made where bullshit. She voted leave and celebrated after.
This the kinda people England Is dealing with. I personaly can't believe she is so freaking stupid.
QuicheFontaine
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It moves pretty fast these days!
But yeah I'm not sure what to say anyway. Everything seems fine so far. That "dead cat bounce" everyone was so sure about turned out to be more of a return to the norm. Markets and sterling heading in the right direction and new government that seems to be keen with getting on with things. If you looked at Gaf you'd think the sky was falling in, but really thingsarelookingprettygood.gif
Then they should get out on the streets and protest. They have a possible 6 months before article 50 is invoked, that is more than enough time to get them to back down from Brexit all together.
Well tbf, nothing has actually happened yet.
Once a50 has been triggered and the exit is assured, we'll see changes. Until then, there won't be much changes.
The sky is falling in and those under it should be left to die because it's their own fault.
That's the next thread's title.
Right now there is a lot of political fallout and a great deal of anxiety among the public about their economic security. And this is before article 50 has been triggered and before the UK needs to actually negotiate their post-Brexit trade relations etc. There's a long way to go yet before anyone can say "so far so good."
Totally, but we were talking about he Labour membership fee....
The new government are being quite clear about their intentions. It's not as if the markets can't see exactly where things are headed.
People should be relieved that the doomcrying has thus far been largely unwarranted.
phisheep
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I think "everything seems fine so far" is probably a wee bit on the optimistic side!
My import costs have gone up at least 10% for starters. You won't see it yet, but wholesalers are under particular pressure, and this will funnel through to a lot of independent retailers over the next few months. Difficult times.
I grant you, the sky hasn't fallen in, but cracks are showing (speaking of cracks in the sky - are you reading UNSONG?).
The anticipated political turmoil is out in full force though, and should get really interesting late September.
I'm wrestling with my conscience to try and work out what a "good" brexit will look like. I'll try to post about that at a bit more length over the weekend.
What's clear? Where are things headed? What kind of trade deal? EEA or Turkey because of rejecting free movement? Financial passport yes or no? Article 50 triggered in December, next year or longer in the future?
Nothing relevant is happening yet.
I mentioned in another thread, that my Mother in law professed that after my wife lost her position it was all a conspiracy, and the company was just using Brexit as an excuse. A lot of people won't accept any negative consequences as being anything other than lies.
Ragnar Blackmane
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The thing is: No one cares in the end.
Heck, only 43.9% of the Germans voted for the NSDAP in 1933 (52% of the British voted for Brexit), and unlike the Brexit referendum that was in a time when SS goons were literally marching in the streets as deputy policemen with attack dogs and SA troopers were constantly cracking down on any democratic party. Did anyone care then, later or now that most of the Germans didn't vote for the Nazis before they completely took over? Nope. The still prevalent German = Nazi stereotype shows it.
The majority of the British voters voted for Brexit and that is how the world will look at you and remember this mess.
Good Morning!
Just saw this:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/14/andrea-leadsom-repeal-fox-hunting-ban-climate-change
I'd have said we all dodged a bullet, but she is still in cabinet.
Just saw this:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/14/andrea-leadsom-repeal-fox-hunting-ban-climate-change
I'd have said we all dodged a bullet, but she is still in cabinet.
Good Morning!
Just saw this:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/14/andrea-leadsom-repeal-fox-hunting-ban-climate-change
I'd have said we all dodged a bullet, but she is still in cabinet.
Hey, at least she asked....
anonymous_abc
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Good Morning!
Just saw this:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/14/andrea-leadsom-repeal-fox-hunting-ban-climate-change
I'd have said we all dodged a bullet, but she is still in cabinet.
In what direction though?
HazySaiyan
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This is why I don't buy the idea that this will be some kind of wake up call for the British public. They'll just stick their head in the sand and ignore it or pass the blame onto somebody else.
shinra-bansho
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The pound has risen because protracted leadership campaigning hasn't had to happen (and no one cares what's happening to Labour) and Carney is holding off on slashing rates. The (non-immediate) slide was a result of the BoE's initial signalling of a rate cut, which will still happen just not yesterday. Stocks have risen because where else are you going to get a return? And it's specific to certain industries.
Andrea Leadsom suggests men should not be nannies because they may be paedophiles
I think she needs a nanny to help stop her from saying stupid shit on a daily basis.
Linkstrikesback
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But really, how can any of us be safe Leadsom, until you just make it illegal for men to be outside without an armed escort (presumably of women).
We're probably all just waiting for that moment where you're not paying attention to your children, then boom.
We're probably all just waiting for that moment where you're not paying attention to your children, then boom.
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*clicks link, comes back while it's loading*
Well it might not be a daily basis as this is probably a story from some time ago to pile on this hilariously bad new cabinet.
*goes back to story*
10 minutes ago? Well, fuck.
shinra-bansho
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Trust her, she's a mother.
It's like a religion with many people, which is something I can't understand. I am at least willing to accept the possibility that Britain can be successful outside of the EU, though I haven't seen any compelling evidence pointing to that yet.
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I hope the Lib Dems gain more ground.
GamerMax73
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Our position is waining for sure, but irrelevant? P5 UN Security Council, Founding NATO member, G7/8/20, Commonwealth, US "special relationship", Nuclear Subs (if we renew Trident), and we haven't lost the financial power of The City, yet.
As much as I voted Remain and firmly believe we are better within the EU, I'm also something of a realist - there'll be a period of readjustment and our position on the world stage will be lessened (hard not to be), but we will survive. Give it 20 years or so post Brexit and we'll have our economy and position on the world stage suitably refocused.
The most important thing to us right now is London. It is the de facto capital of the world. If we loose that then our position might be in serious jeopardy.
I think we'll end up with a fudged token Brexit. We'll be full members of the EU in all but name and voting rights.
GamerMax73
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Yes, I agree, Britain will be successful outside the EU. Not as successful (depending on your measuring of success) as we could within the EU, but we're not going to turn into Greece over night. Our problem now is a forced and painful refocusing of the economy. It'd take time but I'm sure we'd come out of it in a relatively good position.
(I think I've worked through the stages of grieve and have made it to acceptance
)shinra-bansho
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Being P5 on the security council is a pretty undeserved relic of past relevance these days. Frankly the only two that matter on it are China and the US. Maybe Russia. Ask Uganda.
GamerMax73
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My first thought on the subject - I wonder what her views are on women pedophiles then?
Second thought - damn! we dodged a bullet on that one, I though May was (is) a hard right totalitarian nut job, but at least she has some political sense.
I'm off to check the calendar, are we still living in the 1860's?
anonymous_abc
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My grandmother once said something similar to me, of course she was in her 90s and in the latter stages of dementia, not a cabinet member.
GamerMax73
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It is??
Forgive an aging man a moment of blind patriotism, they don't happen often. Financially at least I'd say we are. It's a lot to loose.
Had a little further thought on this.
It really does sum up the problem of Brexit. London defines Britain on both the Domestic and International stage. Internationally our importance disappears with London, domestically the Capital has grown too big and we've become too reliant on its wealth. In that context you can see why Brexit happened.
Does it make you think less of her?
She really is a nasty piece of work.
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/15/theresa-may-to-visit-scotland-nicola-sturgeon
I suppose the rumours that no one else wanted the job could be true.
JonathanEx
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I'm not sure why anyone's criticising Leadsom for implying male nannies are pedos. She's a mother, so of course she's correct. She's got to be correct, she's a mother. This makes her views better than ours.
Interesting that was from the original mother interview - I presume the Times knew if she stayed in the contest another week, they could properly sink her with this.
Interesting that was from the original mother interview - I presume the Times knew if she stayed in the contest another week, they could properly sink her with this.
Dorsal Axe
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Might even be why she dropped out. Once audio started being released, she must have known this would come next.
ricardo_sousa11
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Just waiting for that shoe..
1 UK£ =
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DAMN!
1 UK£ =
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DAMN!
Ovek
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Or she was guaranteed a cabinet job if she dropped out.
Just like no one wants the job of actually triggering article 50 as it would focus too much blame on them, I imagine no one wants the job of actually destroying the NHS even if they all fantasise about it at Right-wing Lunch-club every week.
It must be hard, they have lackeys to do all the other unpleasant stuff in life, but this they can't actually pay someone to do.
Yeah. The UK as a global power has been done for years. Brexit isn't the cause, it's what will finally make that apparent.
England especially, is as relevant to modern civilisation as Greece and Italy is.
Even less so, because at least Greece and Italy have a tourism industry that isn't mostly localised to their capital cities.
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