So I just went on my girlfriends ipad....

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I've learnt that life is too short, I try and not get annoyed by things I can't change.

Losing my temper changes nothing, and just get's me stressed.

I gave an example of road rage, many people lose it, things escalate and it's all for nothing.

I leave people to it, much more chilled like that. Someone cuts me up, go ahead if you're in a rush. Me beeping my horn, flashing my lights and swearing at them is at best going to leave me stressed, and at worst cause them to jump out their car and attack me.

Too many people nowadays get worked up over the most trivial things, and for what? You could get hit by a bus tomorrow.

I could have gone nuts, shouted screamed and banged stuff, but what would it have done? I'm still not going to be with her, and it's just going to give her a reason for her friends to try and start on me.

I'm still pretty young, not married, no kids, so things could be a lot worse.

This sounds a ton like me tbh. Passive, but not to the point where it enables people walking all over me. More like, if people want to act shitty, that's their prerogative, I'll do my best to avoid them and most likely the way they act will come back to bite them one day from someone that isn't quite as reasonable as myself, or maybe they work out their issues, who knows. Meanwhile you get a clear conscience and get to live pretty chilled. There's very few instances where I've felt I actually needed to stick up for myself, and when I do, it really is quite stressful.
 
There here at about 4pm it's 3:10pm.

I've not packed anything, they're gonna help me. My mum did say that she doesn't think I should take the furniture. Just my clothes and stuff.

I would try selling it then OP if your aren't going to take. You;re ex GF certainly doesn't deserve it.
 
There here at about 4pm it's 3:10pm.

I've not packed anything, they're gonna help me. My mum did say that she doesn't think I should take the furniture. Just my clothes and stuff.

Man, stop posting on the forum and start packing.

Maybe listen to your mum too. Maybe your ex will be willing to pay for them once you two can talk about it. Do you need that furniture or you're taking it just out of impulse?

Don't answer to this until you're done packing.
 
There here at about 4pm it's 3:10pm.

I've not packed anything, they're gonna help me. My mum did say that she doesn't think I should take the furniture. Just my clothes and stuff.

Do you live in the UK? Do they recognize common law marriages? If so, then you may not be able to just take what you paid for since you would technically be married, and may need to split things properly.
 
There here at about 4pm it's 3:10pm.

I've not packed anything, they're gonna help me. My mum did say that she doesn't think I should take the furniture. Just my clothes and stuff.

Take the bed frame leave the mattress. Unless the couch was super expensive leave it.
 
I wonder what your EX told this friend to have them so mad at you?

Ex. "Can you believe he is upset I flirt and get dick pics with guys behind his back?"

Friend (sounding like a mustache twirling villain) "yeah fuck that guy it's his fault that you did that .Yeah he's a complete cunt for stuff yeah "

Has the OP even been able to talk to his GF about what he found? Like, it seems like the (ex)GF stormed out and is not communicating, so for all we know she could just know "he accused me of look at other guy's dicks, so he must have violated my personal space" when in fact she had just been careless and left the dick just sitting there on the iPad.

I mean, she's still in the wrong, but there's a difference between leaving WhatsApp running accidentally and having to open the app to scour her conversations for dirt on her. One's just dumb luck, the other is a sign of asshole possessive behavior.

I know when I found out my ex was cheating on me, I initially found out by accident, but then went through her chat logs on purpose trying to find more evidence (and did). And yet she tried to make me feel guilty and like an asshole for "invading her personal privacy" when she was getting dick on the side. So that could be her rationale or how she's trying to play it to her friend.
 
"He accused me of cheating when I didn't, men are assholes" would be more than enough.

Yeah that would do it but if the friend saw the proof then what would they say( not that it matters). Then again its probably a blind friend that will support there friend no matter what instead of calling her out like a good friend should.
 
There here at about 4pm it's 3:10pm.

I've not packed anything, they're gonna help me. My mum did say that she doesn't think I should take the furniture. Just my clothes and stuff.

Take what is yours man. Don't leave your ex anything. You already explained before the logic and it was sound. If you can't do it today, then that's okay, but don't leave the furniture. You don't want to have that expense later.
 
Definitely take your furniture. Your mum is giving you bad advice here. Take what's yours and don't look back.
 
All caught up

I'd take your furniture mate.

Also reading about her friend made my dick shrivel, what an annoying cunt she sounds. Sadly I know a lot of lasses like that.

All the best OP
 
Do you live in the UK? Do they recognize common law marriages? If so, then you may not be able to just take what you paid for since you would technically be married, and may need to split things properly.

The UK does *not* recognise common-law marriages.
 
What kind of furniture?
I'd say take what you need, leave everything else and make her pay for it if she needs it/can afford it. Otherwise, sell everything.
I'm with you OP!

oh and keep dat OLED and PS4 safe <3
 
Echoing take the furniture, you paid for it, renting storage for it will be cheaper than buying again. Is your mother aware of the ex's irrational side and ridiculous friend since you say they behave around your parents.
 
Has the OP even been able to talk to his GF about what he found? Like, it seems like the (ex)GF stormed out and is not communicating, so for all we know she could just know "he accused me of look at other guy's dicks, so he must have violated my personal space" when in fact she had just been careless and left the dick just sitting there on the iPad.

I mean, she's still in the wrong, but there's a difference between leaving WhatsApp running accidentally and having to open the app to scour her conversations for dirt on her. One's just dumb luck, the other is a sign of asshole possessive behavior.

I know when I found out my ex was cheating on me, I initially found out by accident, but then went through her chat logs on purpose trying to find more evidence (and did). And yet she tried to make me feel guilty and like an asshole for "invading her personal privacy" when she was getting dick on the side. So that could be her rationale or how she's trying to play it to her friend.

Gaf advice time. The obvious answer is for the OP to talk to the friend and show her or him all the evidence then cry no thier shoulder, then sleep with her and send the EX pics. It's the only way to balance the universe make things right. (don't do this)
 
Definitely take your furniture. Your mum is giving you bad advice here. Take what's yours and don't look back.

Yeah. Unless it would cost more to rent a truck than the furniture is worth, there is no logic in not taking your furniture. The trashy friend might damage it any way thinking you planned on coming back for it. Or the ex might leave it behind when she leaves, and then you get calls from the landlord asking why shit isn't moved out.

Seriously, take your shit. It's yours. You only get parting gifts if you're married.
 
Kinda joining this party late, but been lurking this thread most of the time. Who hasn't been, right?

I just wanted to lend my sympathies, OP. You've been through a lot, and you deserve to be upset. And I don't know how I'd handle the whole situation if I were in it.

I'm not going to give you additional advice, because tbh all the posters above me have given some great advice. Gotta love GAF right?

Also, I stumbled across your picture in this thread. Now I don't want to be inappropro but it jumpstarted my lady parts and I don't even HAVE lady parts. Take your time to get the feelings out of your system, and mentally kick this gurl to the curb since she clearly couldn't recognize and appreciate that she had a sweet, handsome guy by her side. I know it's cliché and corny, but it's 100% her loss.

Rooting for you OP! <3
 
Don't leave a stick of furniture behind. Just leave a picture of your own dick on the inside of the front door. With the words good bye written beneath it.
 
There here at about 4pm it's 3:10pm.

I've not packed anything, they're gonna help me. My mum did say that she doesn't think I should take the furniture. Just my clothes and stuff.

Naw take the furniture. She can pay for her own shit. Pretty sure when you decide to live with someone the living items are shared with the understanding that are not going to be a cheating piece of shit.
 
Been reading this thread from the start and Impressed with your resolve and calmness OCD, I'm a bit like that myself in not being interested in pointless arguments that achieve nothing.

Edit: this guy said it alot better than me:

This sounds a ton like me tbh. Passive, but not to the point where it enables people walking all over me. More like, if people want to act shitty, that's their prerogative, I'll do my best to avoid them and most likely the way they act will come back to bite them one day from someone that isn't quite as reasonable as myself, or maybe they work out their issues, who knows. Meanwhile you get a clear conscience and get to live pretty chilled. There's very few instances where I've felt I actually needed to stick up for myself, and when I do, it really is quite stressful.

Though all this thread is doing is reminding me that I have downloaded Alienation and not even tried it yet lol I just can't seem to tear myself away from Rocket League and the Witcher DLC.
 
Parents probably don't want to move all the stuff out when there's a chance in their mind you may need to move back with her. Make it clear that's never on the table again.
 
A new day, time for an update...

So I didn't go to work today, I didn't go to bed unitl 4am so there was no chance I was getting up at 7am and able to do a full day at work.

Contacted my manager and explained the situation (not in detail obviously) and he was quite understanding.

Anyway my first point of call was to contact the estate agent, it turns out there is a break clause, so that's great right?

Well actually it's not because as I'm in a joint tenancy my ex would need to agree to it, but we've not spoken since last night when she was in the flat (I didn't reply to the text)

At around 11am I hear the door open and pull, the chain is still on the door so hence the loud noise, my stomach turns a bit, as I'm walking to the door I hear "Open the door you fucking cunt".

Oh good it's her friend. There's a lot of shouting, and I tell my ex that I don't want her friend in here, and if she want's me to remove the chain she'll have to be alone.

Understandably I didn't want to have to deal with a loud mouthy idiot shouting her mouth off at me.

My ex barely responds, all it is her friend shouting her mouth off. Saying things along the lines of "You can't lock her out, this ain't your flat" So there's not much I can do, as she's not the type that will calmly talk, and when I try to respond she just shouts all over me (you can imagine the type) so I just sit down in the front room until they give up. This must have lasted for about 30 minutes.

Once they go I close the door and put my key in the door, this way she can't even open the door, as putting a key through the other side won't work when there's a key already in the door.

I've not heard anything since that happened. What I've done my end is what most people end up doing, calling mummy and asking for help. So they're coming round in a few hours to start removing some of my stuff. They can't fit the furniture in their car, but I'm going to call a few removal guys, or possibly rent a van, need to see what's cheaper.

Obviously I can't lock her out of the flat, but I can take all the furniture out as I'm the one that paid for it. Literally paid for the essentials, the bed, sofa and then things like tv, pc etc are mine anyway (she has no interest in those things apart from the tv)

We have a dog (the chihuahua cross in my avatar before) which we paid half each for so not sure what we would do about that.

I'll feel more comfortable when my parents arrive, I know it makes me sound like a pussy but they won't mouth off, they're pretty fake and all polite around parents. They certainly won't shout and swear.

So that's where I'm at now.


Nothing wrong with calling someone for help in your time of need, OP.

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Maybe I need a woman that's into games, I sometimes read about people who say they game together, and that sounds great, but the woman I meet aren't into gaming at all.

Trust me as someone who's dated a gamer girl, it's a double edged sword and can come with it's own problems. All that really matters is you find a girl who understands your hobby. And by understand, I mean she doesn't have a problem with it and doesn't constantly make you feel lesser for it and appreciates that it's "your thing". Obviously a girl who games will understand, but my current girlfriend that I've been with for years doesn't game at all (beyond some party stuff) and she understands it just as well and we have a great relationship. As with most things, the trick is to not neglect your partner for it and do it in moderation.
 
need more details about the convo

having random flirty online chats with dick pics flying around are not that big of a deal. most girls do that

Let's see how this looks flipping the genders...

"need more details about the convo

having random flirty online chats with pussy, ass and tit pics flying around are not that big of a deal. most men do that"


Uhmm yeeeeah, not looking too good. Any woman accepts this as a norm from a man is probably not worth holding on to anyway.
 
What's yours is yours.

Married parents may play with the idea that one day you will both be back together. Since that's not going to be the case then take what's yours and cut ties.
 
Reading through this has been amazing. I think it goes without saying that this is not the best situation to be in, but consider the amount of relationship threads on gaf every month. So many people always say to end it, get out, etc, but you're actually doing it and you'll be better off because of it.

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Not exactly trying to defend the GF, but everybody keeps saying "cheating cheating cheating cheating cheating".

At least to me, a bit of sexting, and full blown fucking, are on two extremely different levels in the cheating hierarchy. As far as we know only the former has taken place.

Of course even that much is very problematic and the OP wanting to end it can still be justifiable. But even the OP admitted there are three sides to every story (including the strong possibility of some inattentiveness and/or communication issues he shares blame for).

I think the one 100% safe conclusion here though is definitely that the friend is trash. I don't think there'll be ANY disagreement there, lol.
 
Not exactly trying to defend the GF, but everybody keeps saying "cheating cheating cheating cheating cheating".

At least to me, a bit of sexting, and full blown fucking, are on two extremely different levels in the cheating hierarchy. As far as we know only the former has taken place.

You're not the first person to say this, and the response is that different people have different definitions of what they consider cheating and a dealbreaker. And for OP, this is a dealbreaker. How you feel about doesn't really matter, it's a massive breach of trust for OCD Guy.
 
No time to scan 77 pages, but condolences OP.

Does the GF or GF's hag-of-a-friend have any nasty brothers or cousins to be wary of? The hag-friend in particular sounds like a right nasty piece of work.
 
Not exactly trying to defend the GF, but everybody keeps saying "cheating cheating cheating cheating cheating".

At least to me, a bit of sexting, and full blown fucking, are on two extremely different levels in the cheating hierarchy. As far as we know only the former has taken place.

You do realize you just called it cheating as well. There are different forms of cheating. She has broken the trust and he wants out. What else is there? I don't blame him, I would do the same thing. If anything he is being a little too nice in this situation.
 
I hate how it kinda feels like the girlfriend got away with it. At the end of the day, only the OP will know what she did (and maybe his parents) but she's gonna go on telling her friends she didn't do shit and stuff. Obviously she knows she fucked up otherwise she wouldn't have run away but to everyone else she knows, OP will probably be the asshole that wrongly accused her.
 
Yep, because he was responsible for this thread completely losing its innocence.
I mean...at the end of the day we're still dealing with a private affair in this thread, amirite?
No matter what gf did or what she is...she got exposed to a huge audience.
If she ever finds out about this thread, OP or at least OLED is dead.

Lol. What exactly did he do?

I hate how it kinda feels like the girlfriend got away with it. At the end of the day, only the OP will know what she did (and maybe his parents) but she's gonna go on telling her friends she didn't do shit and stuff. Obviously she knows she fucked up otherwise she wouldn't have run away but to everyone else she knows, OP will probably be the asshole that wrongly accused her.

How did she got away? She lost the Italian Stallion and if he wanted (when she accuses him or whatever) he could expose her since he has evidence.
 
Your calm and collected response borders on passive. You need to stand up for yourself and it feels good to let off steam. Dont bottle it all up. Especially when this person tries to make you the bad guy.
 
Not exactly trying to defend the GF, but everybody keeps saying "cheating cheating cheating cheating cheating".

At least to me, a bit of sexting, and full blown fucking, are on two extremely different levels in the cheating hierarchy. As far as we know only the former has taken place.

Of course even that much is very problematic and the OP wanting to end it can still be justifiable. But even the OP admitted there are three sides to every story (including the strong possibility of some inattentiveness and/or communication issues he shares blame for).

I think the one 100% safe conclusion here though is definitely that the friend is trash. I don't think there'll be ANY disagreement there, lol.

Cheating or not cheating isn't really the question, it's a breach of trust.

I am sure if the OP's GF found vag pics and him chatting to someone saying he wanted to smash her back doors in, she'd be pissed too.
 
There here at about 4pm it's 3:10pm.

I've not packed anything, they're gonna help me. My mum did say that she doesn't think I should take the furniture. Just my clothes and stuff.

Fuck your Ex. Take everything that belongs to you. You paid for it? It's yours.


And the dog.
 
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