I know I'm very likely to get one on launch, but my goodness... a souls game on NX and I will get it on launch.
Dark Souls 1 is perfect, so it totally works for a launch title, and it could be very easy to port... may be
Emily Rogers: Why you should be excited about NXs software output
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I know I'm very likely to get one on launch, but my goodness... a souls game on NX and I will get it on launch.
Dark Souls 1 is perfect, so it totally works for a launch title, and it could be very easy to port... may be
And?
Yes, some rumors are bogus but this was one that consistently popped up and had decent stuff behind it. While I'm not saying it will absolutely pop up, I'm saying I wouldn't be shocked if that was something that was announced.
The popular theory was Diddy Kong Racing was being done by Monster Games, but I think Shikamaru Ninja has said that's bunk/unlikely a few times. He knows his shit when it comes to Nintendo staff-related matters.
No problem. There's been so much going on it's a blur to me. And then there's all the weird stuff which was debunked (e.g. 10k's tiered stuff), or just speculation, but... Anyway, yeah, I don't blame you.
Well, I found this. From here : http://www.designntrend.com/article...er-splatoon-wii-u-games-nintendo-nx-rumor.htm
Emily and Alberto express that Wii U --> NX carryover capabilities were difficulties with Splatoon and Mario Maker.
Ah, grazie. I think I do remember this now.
Shikamaru, given your expectation of Splatoon and SMM above, what's your take on the rumors that they've been stalled as ports due to technical hiccups?
As I mentioned above, I could see a Pikmin Trilogy or NSMBU re-release as well, prior to releasing new games in those franchises. At the least some kind of Pikmin re-release prior to the new game.
Regarding MK8, the game definitely undersold, so perhaps a complete edition is in order. I guess I figured since they were already a couple years out from release (though he DLC changes that schedule a bit), and nearly three by the time NX comes out, it'd be a bit on the late side, but I suppose as long as they market it well they can release it and see the cash register jingle with sales as they take their time with thr next release and whatever else that team is working out.
Also you said "with the possibility of the HH releasing first" so it occurs to me that I don't think I've yet heard your take on this new round of rumors. Especially since you wrote "releasing first" whereas the general impression of the rumors now seems to be that the HH plus dock would release first and only (i.e. no console only device).
Regarding the Diddy debunk mentioned above, I think we've discussed this before but it's unfortunate. I think there's room in the lineup for it. But hopefully they agree one day.
Thanks in advance for the keen perspective you always bring to these matters.
Also, since each team is not making multiple versions of their big franchise titles for console and handheld, that opens up the possibility for a more diverse library and hopefully a greater push for new IP.
I think a sequel to Mario Kart rather than a Port/remaster is more likely, given it will be almost three years old.
I think an ambitious sequel to Splatoon in Holiday 2017/ Spring 2018 would also make more sense than a port. After its success, i think they'll really want to push it as a Smash level franchise, and not dilute it with a port.
A deluxe version of smash 4 makes sense, since it would be a while before a sequel would seem necessary. A port of Mario Maker would also work, though I'm not sure how that would function with the proposed NX setup.
I think a sequel to Mario Kart rather than a Port/remaster is more likely, given it will be almost three years old.
I think an ambitious sequel to Splatoon in Holiday 2017/ Spring 2018 would also make more sense than a port. After its success, i think they'll really want to push it as a Smash level franchise, and not dilute it with a port.
A deluxe version of smash 4 makes sense, since it would be a while before a sequel would seem necessary. A port of Mario Maker would also work, though I'm not sure how that would function with the proposed NX setup.
Plinko
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NinjaCoachZ
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Would it be feasible for Mario Kart 9 to just be a (relatively) iterative sequel to Mario Kart 8? Kind of like how Mario Kart Wii (at least IIRC) seemed to reuse a lot of models from Double Dash? MK8 looks so great it doesn't seem too necessary to chuck all that hard work out the window.
Or even, what if Mario Kart 9 was a "best of Mario Kart" game? Featuring a ton of courses from throughout the series, in addition to the obvious new ones?
I'm getting into pipe dream mode here, but I think that would be cool, as it would allow them to reuse plenty of material from Mario Kart 8 without strictly being a port of that game. They'd already have 48 whole courses ready to work with.
I'm just curious to see where Nintendo takes the series going forth. MK8 already felt like kind of a dream match game to me.
No problem!
Or even, what if Mario Kart 9 was a "best of Mario Kart" game? Featuring a ton of courses from throughout the series, in addition to the obvious new ones?
I'm getting into pipe dream mode here, but I think that would be cool, as it would allow them to reuse plenty of material from Mario Kart 8 without strictly being a port of that game. They'd already have 48 whole courses ready to work with.
I'm just curious to see where Nintendo takes the series going forth. MK8 already felt like kind of a dream match game to me.
Ah, grazie. I think I do remember this now.
No problem!
Federation Force HD lol jk
They better give us a Metroid console game after skipping WiiU
Anything of note posted there? The twitter is private and I want to jump on any and all hype trains possible.
I would rather see a new Splatoon and Mario Kart game. Mario Maker could be a better candidate for a port with updates.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Share? Some of us can't get verified for her Twitter.
Oh, I didn't know we had others finally coming out against the DKR thing. Guess I'll let that one go for now.
Dont know if this was posted
Emily Rogers ‏@ArcadeGirl64 1h1 hour ago
@CurtisBonds I'm not expecting it to have a very large internal storage. The system has *at least* 2 USB ports though.
https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/758428841383571456
They should release a Dark Souls Trilogy for NX:
- Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition
- Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin Edition
- Dark Souls III + DLC Season Pass included
All on one high-capacity cart. Playable at home or on the go on NX.
Heck, Nintendo could publish for Bandai-Namco and include an amiibo line!
4 USB ports is one of the best parts of the Wii-U hardware. Just give us four USB ports and an ethernet port Nintendo!
NinjaCoachZ
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Some samples
About the USBs: while they were great for Wii U - I no joke - only JUST discovered that the Wii had USB ports last week. Did anyone know what they were ever used for?
External HDD, Gamecube controller adapters, and pro controller charging. Having four is great.
NinjaCoachZ
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Oh, I meant on the regular Wii. I use USBs a LOT for the Wii U, for all three of those things. I don't think I ever touched them on the original Wii.
Unless Wiispeak used them, or something. That was fun for a few months.
DragonKnight
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10k is definitely banned right?
TheDinoman
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Completely forgot about that thing, wow. Nintendo did jackshit with it. Only about 13 games even supported it, and the only first party game to utilize it was Animal Crossing City Folk.
Talk about a throwaway accessory.
Doesn't come across as anything but normal fan speculation to be honest.
But I do think her comparison to the "third pillar" thing is fair. I don't see any reason why Nintendo cant roll out a Nintendo console just because they're released the NX. A handheld might be harder, but I don't think NX is so hard a sell from a handheld perspective.
I'm not sure if a Mario Kart 8 port would make much sense, especially considering how long it's been since MK8 DLC was finished. If anything, their efforts would be better-placed with an all-new Mario Kart 9.A more ambitious splatoon sequel makes way more sense to me still. They need to capitalize on its success especially now that they know people are largely here for it.
Mario maker, Mario kart 8 and smash make perfect sense as ports instead. There's ways to easily expand on each of them and the engines they all run on are very solid. MK8 is gorgeous enough as it is. Just adding battle mode and more content would be great. Too bad 3D world likely won't get a new version
Thanks to you both! Very much appreciated.
Banned in what sense? He came back to GAF a month or so ago, if that's what you mean.
I agree with you, but if NX is significantly successful, I don't see them releasing a new HH or console in that scenario. Not for a long time, at least.
Sojiro
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Please god this! If nothing else, just give us a damn internal ethernet port.
This bodes well for GameCube Adapter support, at least. But I'm hoping for 4 USB ports so we can use 8 GameCube Controllers for 8-Player Smash.
And yeah, an ethernet port on the console dock would be nice.
Moon_frogger
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we'll increase our software output!! by cancelling Wii U games and releasing them on NX!!!!
NinjaCoachZ
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Yeah, the DS part is what I think was the most interesting, for sure. It's definitely not going to be another Wii U, so while it's probably closer in spirit to the 3DS, it's different enough that it's clear this is going to be a new approach and its success will determine the road Nintendo takes afterward.
No kidding! It was a decent novelty at first, but afterward... Man. It really did seem like a lot of the Wii accessories were made with only a few games in mind.
Yeah, 10k's ban was just temporary so he's back now... but that tag is permanent. :V
They need to be powered USB ports.
Right, hence why I'm hoping for 4 USB ports on the console dock.
NinjaCoachZ
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Considering Xenoblade 1 got a New 3DS port, and XenoX has more than a few things in common with it (limited userbase - this time due to hardware rather than short print run - likely veeeery expensive/time-consuming to make, and an open-world game that lends itself well to short bursts, appealing to newcomers and doubledippers, a big RPG to show off new hardware, Monolith's next title is likely years off...), XenoX would be a fantastic choice for an NX port.
-Pyromaniac-
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The proposition of being able to get my pokemon games/story of seasons/novel games/other niche titles on the same system that I'll get bigger mario games and zelda games and xeno games and whatnot has single handedly insured I will get the NX. I've been extremely sour on my wii u, haven't touched in forever.
Execution of hardware and price point is all that's left.
Execution of hardware and price point is all that's left.
Rockband mic, USB to enet adapter, charging Wiimotes through 3rd party adapters... Modded Wiis could plug in a hard drive and use them much like the Wii U.
Jawmuncher
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I think I said before in this thread, but i'm playing it safe this time. Was told the same thing for WiiU and imo it didn't turn out all that well.
DragonKnight
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Yep. Loving what im seeing on Sun and Moon but now ya boy is here frothing about what gen 8 will look like.
I think it's a little more complex than that. For example, it's possible to imagine a situation (whether likely or unlikely) where the NX is successful among gamers who traditionally get gaming systems other than consoles. So Japan, students, casuals, etc. In that case, a console might make sense as it can be more specialized to the market that the NX isn't hitting.
It's also unlikely that there's ever a point where the main hardware manufacturers are not thinking about future hardware, so I don't think it would really be a panic situation either any more than a standard backup plan.
I'm actually hoping that's what Nintendo did, and I've been a Wii U owner since launch.
That's fair, I see what you mean. I think to re-enter the traditional console market in that scenario is possible, and I agree it wouldn't have to be a panic situation.
Not to be obtuse so forgive me if I'm missing something, but I guess I also don't see why console games couldn't/won't just be made for NX. I expect if NX is as rumored we'll see a blend of what we'd consider HH and console-type games. So I'm not sure what purpose a console serves except in a marketing sense, though, I guess that can be purpose enough depending on the audience they're after. Thinking on it further, I suppose that marketing idea + potential extra power of a straight up console is what you meant; I'm just not tech-savvy enough to intuit the difference a console would make.
Agreed! And just after launch, here. Well, July 2013. Right before they announced the price drop. But I don't regret it for a moment because the time I spent with the Rayman Legends Challenges App was extraordinarily fun.
Well, yeah, it's pretty likely that's already happened. Hence why the 2016 release schedule is so barren for WiiU. Titles like Pikmin 4 that were said to be nearly complete are nowhere to be seen, suggesting they've been moved over to NX.
And you know what? That's great. They'll look and play better on NX, and have a chance at finding the audience WiiU didn't.
Aztechnology
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Well yea, handheld games are usually much smaller in scope and significantly easier to push out. This is also based on an ARM chip so likely any mobile games they put out will also be easily ported over and used on the NX systems as well. So I'm sure they will count that in their software output too. I wouldn't expect them to be shoveling out games with too much depth in their systems like say Zelda. I imagine those releases will remain largely unchanged. Plus if they're $60 titles, ehhhh.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Super Mario Maker is an important concept title and it's naïve to think the company isn't trying to reconfigure it to work on the NX hardware. I think the sales numbers in Japan are low considering the potential it would have on a hand held (hand held / console). Will they release it as Super Mario Maker immediately? Or a slightly different concept later on? That all depends on what the company decides.
Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, and Mario Maker are the biggest console properties that would benefit from a larger user base. Most importantly. porting them would come without the cost of needing a large pool of artists to make new assets. A large pool of artist who are already busy with the incoming wave of games for the NX and mobile.
So all three games are possibilities. I can rumor them and there probably is a 50/50 chance of them happening.
Smash Bros. NX as well - although that is a first-party port still being externally developed.
Jorok Goldblade
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I mean, you need two if they're going to carry over the Gamecube adapter for anothe generation of Smash.
Isn't it sad how we can't even guarantee this happening in 2016
Seriously. Give me a new base game and every year sell me two more cups and a few characters.
NinjaCoachZ
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Hopefully we could finally get a GameCube VC too.
Ahhhh, I see. I didn't use most of those things.
Actually, I only used the USB port for the first time because I modded my Wii and was using Cleanrip on my discs, so I got that latter usage out of it.
I think the end goal of NX is that having to spend less R&D on redundant titles (e.g. MK7/MK8, NSMB2/NSMBU, Xenoblade 3D/Xenoblade X, Yoshi's New Island/Yoshi's Woolly World, Smash 3DS/Smash Wii U), they have freer reign to do more experimental things.
This is an honest understatement if I've ever read one, lol.
As mentioned earlier, why should Nintendo even bother with porting Mario Kart 8 & Splatoon? I've already made my case about Mario Kart 8 (which Retro4ever quoted a few posts above this one). As for Splatoon, maybe a port for that game may have made sense if they were still doing Splatfests. But now that the Splatfests are over, there's no real reason to port the game when Nintendo could start fresh with a sequel. Plus they're gonna have to overhaul the controls anyway thanks to the lack of a second screen.
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Yeah, one would hope the poor sales of a lot of those titles, and the huge success of Splatoon and Mario Maker, would show them they need to move away from so many of those quicker "hope to cash in with our IP" type games.
They're development teams are less strained now that they've adapted to HD development, reorganized and streamlined, and won't be split and spread thin supporting two platforms anymore.
That should lead to more mainline entries in key franchises (both current and lapsed franchises like Metroid) as well as more leeway to take chances with new ideas and new IP like Splatoon.
Only time will tell though.
Agreed. Splatoon and MK8 don't need remakes/ports. Those came out a while ago and they should be able to get sequels out in the next year or two. The sequels can include the best/most popular maps and tracks from those games.
Mario Maker needs brought over somehow though as that game has a ton of a appeal and infinite replayability. So that should get ported over at/near launch if they can work out the controls for building (be it only in portable mode, or also having a second screen app for tablets/phones etc.).
Smash should get ported as well. With Sakurai being burned out they probably can't get a sequel out in a timely manner. But they could do a port, and probably have others on the team add a new character or two (ice climbers for one since they were largely done but couldn't run on 3DS) for launch and then just do bigger DLC down the road.
Those along with the New Zelda, Pikmin 4 etc. has the makings of a good launch window lineup. Then they can have new 3D Mario, Splatoon sequel, MK9, Metroid Prime 4 etc. etc. later on to keep the momentum rolling the first couple of years along with all their smaller franchises and new ideas.
Waylon Drums
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I'd say that it becomes less likely as time goes on, not more.