UK PoliGAF thread of tell me about the rabbits again, Dave.
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Souldriver
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I hope the Lib Dems don't take Cameron hostage so that the new government can finally fix the country, like Thatcher did 30 years ago.
Truth hurts. To actually think New Labour are 'progressives' is a utter laugh. The whole point of the New Labour experiment is to make it more right wing and business orientated. Personally, I'd prefer if they just stopped and brought back the Old Labour or the New Old Labour or whatever.Xavien said:
trudderham
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You've got the name wrong. It's Liberal Conservatives.
Edit: beaten!
Edit: beaten!
SmokyDave said:I can't see many arguing with the angry Goose.
Wow, every single party is on its way to the Authoritarian Right (except the tories which never moved from there), seems strange considering everyone says that the Lib Dems are "left of centre".
Chinner said:
I agree with you, but Thatcher's legacy seems to have an inescapable grip on all parties.
PjotrStroganov
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XmO-4G9T0E
Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.
Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.
electroshockwave
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Chinner said:
Labour Classic?
killer_clank
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Chinner said:
Well, Milliband is a Blairite, and the most likely leader. I'd say the chances of old labour coming back is low.
Souldriver
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Jexhius said:
It all went downhill when Thatcher was gone. Labour singlehandedly dragged us into a financial crisi....I can't do it. I'm just trolling guys. But I'd rather not ruin this newborn thread already. Either way, I'm sure somewhere along the line, someone will say what I just said but be dead serious about it.Peru said:
phisheep
NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
For a slightly alternative view:
Well, it is pretty well perfectly the result that I wanted - even though at the polling booth it didn't seem to be an option that was available to me.
From what it seems to me (and it rather depends who you read) they dropped coalition talks because they had thought the LibDems would folow Labour policy like sheep, were completely taken aback to find they wouldn't and realised too late they had no practical chance of making something that worked anyway.
... and perhaps gain squilions of votes elsewhere? Doesn't sound all that clear a lose/lose.
Chinner said:
Well, it is pretty well perfectly the result that I wanted - even though at the polling booth it didn't seem to be an option that was available to me.
From what it seems to me (and it rather depends who you read) they dropped coalition talks because they had thought the LibDems would folow Labour policy like sheep, were completely taken aback to find they wouldn't and realised too late they had no practical chance of making something that worked anyway.
... and perhaps gain squilions of votes elsewhere? Doesn't sound all that clear a lose/lose.
Jex
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phisheep said:
Very hard to say. Some say that Labour thought the talks were going fine, and that they made concessions. If that's true, then the Liberal Democrats weren't taking those negotiations seriously and they simply used them as a device to gain a better deal with the Conservatives. Then the Liberal Democrats just plastered over the situation by saying "Labour were too inflexible".
close to the edge
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Yup, I read in the newspaper that he speaks 5 languages fluently (including German). Clegg seems like the kind of politician I would vote for if I lived in the UK.PjotrStroganov said:
close to the edge
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There isn't?NekoFever said:
PJV3
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dsister44 said:damm white duck stole my joke......
I demand a tag in compensation(joke, junior memebrs cant get tags right?)
anyway, screw the haters, i reckon this government is going to do some good. anybody thinking Liberals betrayed a rainbow coalition are delirious
Clegg said it himself in the rose garden in Downing St. He and Cameron really wanted to
go for it.Approaching Labour was just ticking off a box and getting more out of the tories.
And fair enough.
phisheep
NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
Jexhius said:
Looking again at the sequence of events, I'd guess that both Labour and LibDems knew they were doing only pretend negotiating with each other on a deal that didn't stack up arithmetically and so wasn't going to work.
Labour's agenda being to spike the Tories (where the only good outcome was for all Labour policies to be accepted), and LibDem's being to carry their own party (where the only bad outcome is doing a roll-over to Labour).
Given that, it is scarcely surprising that both sides seemed to give off the wrong body language and vibes.
However, since both sides had to say publicly that they assumed the others were negotiating for real, it had to be spun some other way. Hence the different stories.
as an outsider, are there any links or anyone willing to throw up an explanation on whats going on with this? How is it currently and what is AV+ and STV... all i heard on the news here was that the Tories are pushing through reform that could cost them seats in the next election