EmpressInYellow
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The fact that Yellow Diamond wanted the cluster as a "geo-weapon" also sort of implies that Homeworld expects to encounter future threats that aren't the Crystal Gems.
Steven Universe |OT4| Every Rose Has Its Thorns
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KibblesBits
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I'm still so proud and excited about this that I just have to share it with GAF...
Attack the Light (the SU game developed by my studio) had a little cameo/reference in tonight's episode:
(the awesome OKKO also got a shout out in that same bg!)
We had no idea this was going to be a thing until we spotted it in an early screening of the ep a few weeks back. Needless to say, there was much celebrating by our team.
It may seem like a little thing, but definitely a big deal and an honor for us
Um, do you guys do Doombad too? Cause that game is fire. You should do a sequel where the Princesses capture the Villain... xD
It didn't occur to me until now but why was only earth chosen as a colony for homeworld? What about the other planets in the solar system? The gems don't need an earthlike environment, they can function everywhere including tje vaccum of space so why didn't they turn Mercury, Venus and Mars into colonies? What about the various moons of the gas giants or the asteroids?
Obviously they weren't going to abandon earth as a colony after they spend time and ressources on it just because the crystal gems wanted them to and maybe they couldn't establish several full colonies in our solar system at the same time but wouldn't it have made sense to at least set up secret Kindergartens on Mars for example? That way the crystal gems wouldn't have been able to interfere assuming they didn't have spaceships.
And why not try on another planet after earth was abandoned? There must have been some space travel infrastructure between homeworld and we know there running out of ressources (which doesn't make sense for a species vapable of interstellar travel but let's ignore that
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Obviously they weren't going to abandon earth as a colony after they spend time and ressources on it just because the crystal gems wanted them to and maybe they couldn't establish several full colonies in our solar system at the same time but wouldn't it have made sense to at least set up secret Kindergartens on Mars for example? That way the crystal gems wouldn't have been able to interfere assuming they didn't have spaceships.
And why not try on another planet after earth was abandoned? There must have been some space travel infrastructure between homeworld and we know there running out of ressources (which doesn't make sense for a species vapable of interstellar travel but let's ignore that
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I always assumed it's because biological life or life force is a key ingredients to the kindergartening process. I think it's the reason the land is still dead and sterile around the Alpha and Beta kindergartens thousands of years later.
Gems are made out of people!
Plants need minerals to grow, so if the Kindergartens suck needed minerals out of the earth it would explain why the entire area is dead.
But you could still be right, maybe there is a (secret) biological component to gems, it would explain how homeworld can run out of ressources if minerals are literally everywhere in the universe.
I'm going with they were. Because it doesn't really matter either way and I think it's kinda cute. Plus, the whole having a relationship with a dude with depression and it just not working out then getting closure years later thing is totally relateable. But it doesn't really matter what that relationship was; so while I'm going to see it as totally gay it's still a kinda poignant thing even if it was just a friendship.
It didn't occur to me until now but why was only earth chosen as a colony for homeworld? What about the other planets in the solar system? The gems don't need an earthlike environment, they can function everywhere including tje vaccum of space so why didn't they turn Mercury, Venus and Mars into colonies? What about the various moons of the gas giants or the asteroids?
Obviously they weren't going to abandon earth as a colony after they spend time and ressources on it just because the crystal gems wanted them to and maybe they couldn't establish several full colonies in our solar system at the same time but wouldn't it have made sense to at least set up secret Kindergartens on Mars for example? That way the crystal gems wouldn't have been able to interfere assuming they didn't have spaceships.
And why not try on another planet after earth was abandoned? There must have been some space travel infrastructure between homeworld and we know there running out of ressources (which doesn't make sense for a species vapable of interstellar travel but let's ignore that
I assume the geological conditions were better on earth than on mars. mars is almost geologically dead, while the earth is p active
dunno about the other non-gas-giant planets tho
Kor of Memory
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Kind of funny to think about: Isn't it Neptune that literally rains diamonds?
ScriptedReality
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Never thought about it that way
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Actually, I've always thought the selection of Earth could be because of it's distance from the sun. And because it's "earth-like". The gems, for whatever reason, already had preferred humanoid forms. They may not need to breath, but they prefer to talk like organic beings using air, they prefer to live in buildings that are similar to what beings like humans construct.
So other planets in the solar system wouldn't be as appealing to them aesthetically. And they might prefer to settle on similar planets elsewhere in the galaxy. They just don't normally care if those planets have existing life, and don't care if they harm it.
As for running out of resources, I've seen a few theories about that. One being that it's a lie by the diamonds, as an excuse to create weaker gems after the rebellion. Also, if theories about the gems being evolved from an organic life form that went artificial are true, gem technology might, at the root, be based around an earthlike conditions required for growing new gems. So any old planet in a solar system might not work.
So other planets in the solar system wouldn't be as appealing to them aesthetically. And they might prefer to settle on similar planets elsewhere in the galaxy. They just don't normally care if those planets have existing life, and don't care if they harm it.
As for running out of resources, I've seen a few theories about that. One being that it's a lie by the diamonds, as an excuse to create weaker gems after the rebellion. Also, if theories about the gems being evolved from an organic life form that went artificial are true, gem technology might, at the root, be based around an earthlike conditions required for growing new gems. So any old planet in a solar system might not work.
ScriptedReality
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lmao! I guess me and my daughter shouldnt rush to watch it
naturally formed, without injectors
ANYWAY, who created the first Gems?
They could have been made naturally. Like, whatever goo they inject into the ground was on their original planet, fell into a crevice and naturally formed into the first sentient gem(s). Then those gems learned how to make gems, and eventually learned how to program gems before they're born, and that naturally leads to the heavily stratified gem society we see today.
Also, I never really thought about it before, but isn't it weird that Rose Quartz is the most human looking gem? Other gems have strange colors and are generally genderless, but Rose just looks like a super tall, slightly overweight caucasian lady with pink hair. She even has cleavage. 😘
Kor of Memory
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See, this is why I'm more interested to learn about corruption. Like, is corruption a natural state of a Gem's life-cycle? Is it something that just happens over time, or does something induce it?
Is it simply a bi-product of a damaged gem not getting repaired?
Perhaps Homeworld isn't seeking new recruits, but constantly replacing old and outdated ones.
I think it'd be kind of cool to learn that Homeworld, or even other colonies, are heavily threatened by corruption.
The fact that it's contagious as it is, is super interesting, and I feel like it could grow to be more of a threat than just a fusion contagion.
Hell, what if a Ruby came back to homeworld corrupted, and Homeworld decided they didn't know how best to handle it, so they literally purged all Rubies.
Vulcano's assistant
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Last episode felt like a classic sitcom scenario to me, but sitcoms usually have 2-3 story lines going at the same time in one episode than just one. So it seemed like little happen, sure it is just 10 minutes so little always happens in most episodes anyway.
Disagree, we have gotten development for both of them, we just don't get that much of either for them to show it.
Gems are obviously artificial life beings that are made, not born, they could look alien but their physical bodies look humanoid, why?
My theory is that they were constructs created by another species, they look hominid because they are made to the creator species likeness.
So what then? Why do they need a super weapon? Well i can see two options:
A)The Gems rebelled against their creators and managed to conquer planets to their cause, but they might still be at odds with their original creators who likely are an equally vast or bigger empire.
B)The race that created the gems is long gone and they just took the torch, created to fight their enemies and/or conquer they kept at it even after their creators were long forgotten and they are just still at odds with another galactic faction.
Zap2it updated their listings. Not only do they now back-up Last One Out of Beach City airing next week, the following can also be found:
Onion Gang
(First Aired: September 15, 2016)
But so far that's it. The Hiatus stirs.
Onion Gang
(First Aired: September 15, 2016)
Steven finds out about Onion's secret friends.
But so far that's it. The Hiatus stirs.
Are you really surprised that the kid who causes car crashes for fun and threatened the mayor with a bat engages in criminal activity?
Could of sworn peridot mentioned there's nothing at like the corrupted on home world.
I'm also curious if there was a third kindergarten because buddy's book had a injector covered in plant life and the other 2 are in areas devoid of life.
Onion is a fucking weirdo.
Dusk Golem
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I think Gems are artificial lifeforms. The fact they almost have an entire class system that's slave-like, how they view so many of themselves disposable, apparently know everything they need to know for their roles on birth, and even just how they're made, all scream to me this wasn't just a natural order that came to be. It literally seems like 90% or more of Gems are all constructed to be something on birth and fulfill a role they're literally made to do, and this heirchy wasn't something they all sat down and decided on. Especially as their society doesn't have known currency and their value seems to be based off the richness of their minerals and what stone they were forged from, and that the Diamonds seem like they didn't just fall into line as being the leaders, but even they were made at birth to BE leaders.
I always took it that Rose looks more human than the other gems being due to her color being pinkish and her severe attraction to humanity. I don't think it's saying too much to say Rose was the gem who got closest and was most fond of the human race. She also was an apparent flirt with human men over the centuries going off what Pearl has said on a few occassions, and I get the impression she chose a form to bring out her personal attractiveness to have fun with men.
I always took it that Rose looks more human than the other gems being due to her color being pinkish and her severe attraction to humanity. I don't think it's saying too much to say Rose was the gem who got closest and was most fond of the human race. She also was an apparent flirt with human men over the centuries going off what Pearl has said on a few occassions, and I get the impression she chose a form to bring out her personal attractiveness to have fun with men.
User 73706
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I doubt Rose's form that we're familiar with was her original form.
Also, considering Gems are seemingly capable of changing their forms without getting poofed (note the young gem flashbacks etc), what's stopping Peridot from just giving herself a star?
Also, considering Gems are seemingly capable of changing their forms without getting poofed (note the young gem flashbacks etc), what's stopping Peridot from just giving herself a star?
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No guarantee the Young gems weren't poofed.
I think we can assume from things Amethyst and Garnet have said and done that their default forms have don't tax on their energy, while shape shifting does, meaning that they indeed need to be poofed to re-invent themselves a new default form.
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They also switched to new outfits in the beach episode, though.
Temporal shapeshifting, minimal manipulation of their outfit meant less taxing, but in the end it would still be less efficient than their default forms.
So idle thought here; do we think we'll ever see Rose in the present day?
I'm not sure I've ever seen a show that puts so much emphasis and importance on a character who is already long dead (or at least long gone) by the time the show begins. In a non-genre show it'd be easy to assume that gone means gone forever, but in a show like SU the door is always open for characters to return.
Do we think Rose's story is really over, or might she still have a part to play in the future of the show?
I'm very much undecided. The way they keep building her up makes me wonder if there's a payoff planned, but that could easily be something done via more flashbacks.
What do y'all think?
I'm not sure I've ever seen a show that puts so much emphasis and importance on a character who is already long dead (or at least long gone) by the time the show begins. In a non-genre show it'd be easy to assume that gone means gone forever, but in a show like SU the door is always open for characters to return.
Do we think Rose's story is really over, or might she still have a part to play in the future of the show?
I'm very much undecided. The way they keep building her up makes me wonder if there's a payoff planned, but that could easily be something done via more flashbacks.
What do y'all think?
I think we'll see her whenever Steven gets poofed or really needs her.
I usually dislike the Filler-y "Beach City" episodes, but I actually really liked this one. Even if I really wanted some dark premonition to tease future plot developments, I thought it was a cute story.
Eh. They just seem to be old friends who grew apart due to Mr. Frowny's depression.
Eh. They just seem to be old friends who grew apart due to Mr. Frowny's depression.
Ragnorok64
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I feel like if you ask GAF that question, the answer will always be yes.
See.
Atraveller
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It is?
Remember how I mentioned Steven Prime killing himself? There he go
And since it was destroyed, time travel is no longer an issue
Dusk Golem
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Actually come to think of it, those were all Steven technically and they all die in that episode, which might give the answer to what Steven might do if he died or got to poofing state? Given it was because of a time travel thing, but the way they die is interesting. Gems 'poof' when they 'die' (human terms of 'die', obviously for gems they will fully die if their gem is cracked), and humans die physically. In that episode, all the Steven's melt. And a liquid form is between a physical and a gas form.... I might be overthinking this since the hourglass was under the ocean and that 'time' death is hardly natural, but it is the only time we've seen Steven's die or anything similar to 'poofing', and I find it interesting how they 'melt' now that I'm thinking about it.
That's such a great gif, and a great episode.
"I learned to stay true to myself, by watching myself die."
You know, the show never really indicated whether all these super powerful gem artifacts are unique or if they can make more of them on homeworld. I wouldn't be surprised if the hourglass makes a reappearance in the future.
Did you mean 'temporary'? And I agree, whenever they're not in their default forms they're technically shape-shifting their forms to accommodate new looks.
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Wait, that means Pearl shape-shifted...
That doofy face in the middle kills me.
Finding that gif makes me want to watch a bunch of older episodes again. Think I'll marathon Season 1 this weekend.
Dusk Golem
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It probably will reappear. It's from the pilot episode originally, and then was re-used for that episode. Since it's the set-up for the pilot of the whole series and has interesting possibilities, and there's still a lot of questions about gem technology in general, I wouldn't be too surprised if the hourglass appeared again at some point.
Did they inform or confirm you that it is a cameo?I'm still so proud and excited about this that I just have to share it with GAF...
Attack the Light (the SU game developed by my studio) had a little cameo/reference in tonight's episode:
(the awesome OKKO also got a shout out in that same bg!)
We had no idea this was going to be a thing until we spotted it in an early screening of the ep a few weeks back. Needless to say, there was much celebrating by our team.
It may seem like a little thing, but definitely a big deal and an honor for us
I don't think there's much doubt; it uses the same prism motif, the same title and it's on a video game cabinet. It'd be a hell of a coincidence!
Speaking of, MrCheez, how's that sequel to Attack the Light going? Like, you're totally working on one, yes? Because it seems inconceivable to me that you wouldn't be after AtL turned out so great.
User 73706
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I think Steven "poofs" by turning into a baby. In Steven's Birthday when he pushes himself too far by shapeshifting for too long he does it only to inexplicably recover by the end of the episode, so I'm thinking it may be the "default" state he retreats into since he seemingly can't go into his gem entirely the way full-on Gems can.
I figured the Stevens melting after their Time Things were destroyed was part of the "sand in an hourglass" motif more than anything.
I figured the Stevens melting after their Time Things were destroyed was part of the "sand in an hourglass" motif more than anything.
Ignatz Mouse
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Regarding Frowny and Smiley as a couple: I suggested this to my wife, and she thought it would be more emotional complicated if they were.
Well, I'm just passing by to say that this show is a trap. It starts like a normal cartoon for young kids, but suddenly you have horrible events taking place, character development in spades, great continuity, foreshadowing everywhere, and excellent world-building. Also, tears, a hella lot of tears. I almost finished watching season 1, and I'm hooked.
I guess that what I want to say is that the show is surprisingly great, and that I am glad to have given it a chance.
And now I'm bailing before I read a spoiler.
I guess that what I want to say is that the show is surprisingly great, and that I am glad to have given it a chance.
And now I'm bailing before I read a spoiler.
Ya, kinda, felt twee to me.
Did you mean 'temporary'? And I agree, whenever they're not in their default forms they're technically shape-shifting their forms to accommodate new looks.
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Wait, that means Pearl shape-shifted...
Yup that's what i meant, and yes, that's basically the only time she did.
Speaking of shape shifting, i like how Garnet and Amethyst use their shape shifting in different ways, Amy is like Mystique, she shape shifts into concrete concepts, whenever an animal, and object or just a different body, while Garnet is more like PlasticMan, stretching, making her fists grow and overally getting creative.
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They've said on numerous instances that it's on CN if they want a sequel. I believe Grumpyface would jump at the chance of an Attack The Light sequel, especially since they have a proven engine that screams to be expanded on. Limit Breaks! Party Combos! Steven actually being able to join in on battles! The mind boggles.
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