crazygambit
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No universal power supply? That's disappointing. Since the PS3 they've had universal 100-240v power supplies. I wonder if it's external this time.
PS4 Pro specs revealed - 4.2TF, 8GB GDDR5, up to 310W power consumption
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Raiden1018
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Graphical upgrades, better framerate, and 1080p for all games is nothingburger? Alright
BoboBrazil
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Does this improve the graphics of regular PS4 games? I missed the presentation.
Similarish GPU power, maybe a bit more for the 970 due to the downclocked Polaris. Way worse on the CPU. The i5 is way better than a Jaguar.
Leyasu
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Native 4k uprendering.. Even better 😉
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Doesn't mean much to me--nowhere near worth upgrading from my OG PS4. I can see why some on GAF would want it, though.
PHOENIXZERO
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Depends on your 970 but just looking at the FLOP count it's probably still more FLOPS than the "Pro's" GPU. Mine is at just over 4.5TF at its factory OC that boosts to 1430MHz. The main issue going forward though is going to be potential VRAM limitations which probably won't be that big of a deal for another year or two.
CPU wise any i5 decimates the shit CPU in the console.
NVIDIA has dropped the "M" line of their GPUs and now laptops will have full GeForce cards including GTX 1070s and 1080s both of which are obviously way more powerful than what's in the PS4 Pro and in a smaller form factor. Cost an arm and a leg but that's where we're at.
Neo was a much cooler name...
UHD players at not 200 dollars. The cheapest you can find right now is $299. You're probably mistaking 4k upconverting players.
Audioboxer
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That is all a console iteration could provide you with? Heck it's 90% of what a whole new generation provides you with ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Unless you are looking to go quieter/cooler, than that's what the Slim does.
There's a list (a very small list) of 'forward compatable' PS4 games whose performance is increased in some way..I think. Hopefully more titles will be added to take advantage of the power. Someone just made a thread.
True. Seems like the Xbox S is almost as powerful and does more media wise than the new Pro. That's pretty crazy!
When talking PSU, then it has to compared to the PSU.
PS3 first gen was 400 W PSU.
lol
BigSkinny0310
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The OG PS4 is still more powerful than the One S. The PS4P is 2x more powerful than an OG PS4.
nowheretorun
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Yes!
310W WTF?
Hope my 'Lan not connected' I always get on my ps4 gets fixed too!
I'm sure that it's 14nmFF or 16nmFF and that the power consumption figure is just the rating of the PSU. I don't know the figures for Sony, but I know that Wii U consumes under 40W despite having a 75W PSU, and the same ls likely happening here.
scorcher59
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Cold blooded
I'm sure you'll still have people in the old Neo thread speculating how Sony can overclock the mega defibrillating unit twice over with a reach around in order to bump the specs and outclass the Scorpio.
Not even bothered by the specs though, never have been. More bothered about the lack of UHD drive and the design. Sony have missed the mark by gimping out a bit.
Not even bothered by the specs though, never have been. More bothered about the lack of UHD drive and the design. Sony have missed the mark by gimping out a bit.
The Xbox One S is a 1.4TF console.
The PlayStation 4 Pro is a 4.2TF console.
I think you should reconsider your math.
The ideal for PS5 is that AMD can hopefully align itself to the TSMC process nodes going forward, this should enable significant improvement vs. shitty GloFo. This should in turn lead to better semi-custom designs since the base designs wouldn't be so awful to begin with. This is just an unfortunate period to be aligned to AMD hardware, they are in a shitty state.
While true a laptop with even a 1060 in it starts at £1200 over here, for that you could get a PS4pro and a good 4K HDR TV. Or ps4pro and PSVR and lots of games.
Probably already mentioned, but like 30-60 minutes ago one Insomniac guy said there is some extra stuff in the Pro that helps to increase the resolution in addition to the increased raw power. Do we know what he means? Or did I misinterpret his comment (don't think so, but who knows)?
I'll take smoother framerates and/or better assets/details anyday
ASilentProtagonist
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This event just further cemented why i'm more than satisfied with my PS4 right now.
THE:MILKMAN
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No need to apologise. Have you seen how many confused people there are in this thread!?
I have seen card only figures for RX 480 of 160W+ including RAM but even taking account of the reduced clock of Pro, all those other things in Pro really add up.
I guessed the Pro would have a 300-330W PSU over a week ago now so it really isn't a surprise to me. Some games that push Pro to the max will, as you say, likely use around 180W but a lot will only use 150-160W I think.
Underrated post. Aye lmao
Dwight Schrute
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Are those the leaked specs or upgraded ones ?
Cerny said as much during the presentation. There's definitely some custom hardware on the GPU that helps with driving resolution but we don't know what yet.
SlipperyFishes
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They mean Xbox S(corpio)
You remember this guy at PS4 Reveal Conference in February 2013?
People had fun saying he had a flash of the future. Now we know what that flash was about: PS4 Pro. His disappointed face says everything, really.
Jokes aside, I'm not sold on this PS4 Pro. The improvements are pretty much what I expected but now that it's so close I can confirm that I've no interest in this mid-gen updates. Plus, they're pushing too much on 4K and HDR for the new TVs and that annoys me a little, honestly, because all I care right now are more solid games with the tech already available, at 1080p. Let the PC be the platform with muscles, console are not ready, that's what I say. But to each his own, as always.
People had fun saying he had a flash of the future. Now we know what that flash was about: PS4 Pro. His disappointed face says everything, really.
Jokes aside, I'm not sold on this PS4 Pro. The improvements are pretty much what I expected but now that it's so close I can confirm that I've no interest in this mid-gen updates. Plus, they're pushing too much on 4K and HDR for the new TVs and that annoys me a little, honestly, because all I care right now are more solid games with the tech already available, at 1080p. Let the PC be the platform with muscles, console are not ready, that's what I say. But to each his own, as always.
Keep the trolling going.
DarkestHour
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I see a lot of people believing they have to have a 4K TV to use this. That seems silly. Why couldn't you use a 1080p TV and still benefit from the performance increase? Surely this thing can output at 1080p and it's not forced to always do 4K output.
So 1.4 is basically 4.2(1.4*3)?
That's dead on three times the TF.
NVM i've been wrong.
Proelite
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GPU is overlooked to 914 MHz. So 1.4 teraflops.
The 970 will have greater real-world performance(the 970 has similar performance to the 480 at 5.5 TF, so a 20% downclock on that in the ps4k is much worse). The I5 is much much better.
The fact that you ask this question tells you just how piss poor this hardware reveal was.
Yeah i've forgotten this i've already edited my post
Caayn
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Any info on the HDR version it'll support? I'm guessing that it'll be HDR10 but would be pleasantly surprised if they went with Dolby Vision as well.
Outside of that it's not logical to add 512MB to a pool of 8GB.
The leak spoke about 512MB of extra memory freed up for devs as a side effect of the OS footprint being reduced thanks to the higher memory bandwidth.
Outside of that it's not logical to add 512MB to a pool of 8GB.
Elven_Star
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May I ask how? Is there a guide I can read? I'm new to this stuff.
(Sorry about the off-topic, guys)
Sarcasm at it's finest ? Wait for the firsts Digital Foundry's face offs between PS4 Pro and XB1s...
The Xbox S isn't even "almost as poweful" as the OG PS4.
Scousefury
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People are going nuts and saying im skipping and waiting for Scorpio... A console with the same lead weights around it even more powerful legs. Remember no Xbox one user left behind. Same disc for both consoles etc etc. Both companies have same plan, extend the life cycle.
It sucks for the basic level consumer as it makes them a second class citizen but this is the game, either get on board or strap in for the ride.
It sucks for the basic level consumer as it makes them a second class citizen but this is the game, either get on board or strap in for the ride.