PS4 Pro specs revealed - 4.2TF, 8GB GDDR5, up to 310W power consumption

I bet you dont have a 350w psu inside your pc

And indeed this is the point; you are not going to draw 310w on PS4 Pro and the PSU will have a margin for safety; similarly a PC (obviously the quoted PC being more power hungry and higher spec) is also going to probably use a PSU with a higher wattage than it will actually draw
 
Tomb raider on Pro will have 3 modes just detailed on stream:

4k 30fps

1080p with unlocked framerates

1080p 30fps with max graphics


Good. Choices are good as long as they all work well no-fuss. I hope most Pro games have at least 2 modes, if not 3 like this (one 4K or 4K-ish, one pretty-focussed, one framerate focussed). This is meant to be for more discerning users, so I think they can handle options...
 
310 watts?
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Good. Choices are good as long as they all work well no-fuss. I hope most Pro games have at least 2 modes, if not 3 like this (one 4K or 4K-ish, one pretty-focussed, one framerate focussed). This is meant to be for more discerning users, so I think they can handle options...

Yeah, glad I threw in a preorder, if these 2 or 3 options become standard.
 
It's going to be interesting to see how a mid gen refresh will do against a new gen console as early as next year... Good luck with that, Sony. I'm curious how long they will have to undergo that situation. The PS4pro didn't make any sense to me from the start and i have no idea why they decided to release a mid gen refresh. It would maybe have been understandable if they were still a big player in selling tv's but they are not. And the thing doesn't even support 4k blu-rays, which is equally strange.
 
That's the total strength of the PSU, not actual power use of the console.

While true they wouldn't over spec that much unless they had to. The OG PS4 used a 200 watt PSU and it's power consumption was around 150 Watts. This system should not use much more than 170 Watts yet the PSU can provide upto 50% more power. It just does not make sense to me to over spec by such a large margin unless there was a reason.
 
they want you to pay $400 to replace your 3 year old console with another 3 year old console, which is twice the size and power hungry, but has a gimped verison of a $230 GPU.

Couldn't resist to pop out for your anti Sony / Console drive by, eh? At least get your 'facts' right - Pro is no where near twice the size of the regular ps4 and that power consumption if accurate, is nothing like what the console will be using in practical terms.

On topic. The specs were never going to receive a significant upgrade from the leaked specs in April / May - especially for a console launching this year. And at £349 to boot.
I think Sony made the right choice going the cheaper route, if a stronger (still behind Scorpio specs) but more expensive ps4 pro for Spring 2017 was the other option. Losing holiday sales and launching a stronger console - which would be superseded 6/7 months later by the competition anyway - and at a more expensive price (thus losing mass market penetration) was probably not going to be worth it.
From a user perspective, more powerful is always better but at the same time the value proposition offered by this Ps4 pro model is really decent in my opinion. For people who are still to buy their first ps4, this is easily worth the extra £100 over both the base ps4 / slim and the Xbox One S.
 
Someone tweeted yesterday those waiting to be blown away by PS4 Neo will be disappointed. And he was right. He surely knew details.
 
Someone tweeted yesterday those waiting to be blown away by PS4 Neo will be disappointed. And he was right. He surely knew details.

I just want to hear existing games will get patched to run better on it. Going to get one for the basement TV for sure and leave the OG upstairs.
 
~1800p I guess.

Which is around 5760000 pixels compared to 2073600 at 1080p.

Which is a pretty great update 3 years after launch imo. 2.77 times the resolution. IQ will greatly improve. Having seen 1800p content I can tell you it looks a lot better than 1080p.

Would have been nice to have something running natively at that resolution to show with unveiling of the console...
 
Reactions then & now:

PS3: Sony including blu ray to PS3, increasing cost is monumentalyl stupid

PS4: Sony NOT including UHD to Pro, NOT increasing cost futher is monumentally stupid ...

Just cant win them all, can they...
 
Someone tweeted yesterday those waiting to be blown away by PS4 Neo will be disappointed. And he was right. He surely knew details.

House looked disappointed announcing it. Look of apprehension on his face was palpable, you could tell those in the room already saw the thing was a total shitshow.
 
Yeah, underwhelming since my 970 with its factory OC is still more powerful than the PS4's GPU and 310W is fucking absurd when there are full desktop PCs that use less than that at full load with more more capable hardware. Obviously this thing won't use that much power but still.
 
If people didn't see how the three console versions (original vs. Slim vs. Pro) compare, Sony rated the original PS4 at 250W.

Original:

Slim:

Pro:

[source]

Some quick comparisons (not including graphical power) between the Slim and Pro: 56% of the volume, 64% of the mass, and 53% of the max power consumption.
 
PC is waiting to take you in its loving, smooth, embrace.

Yeah, i guess thats my only option for 60 fps. But my 5 year old PC is going to be a pain in the ass to upgrade since the Mobo doesnt support the new Skylake CPUs and my tower is falling apart. It will definitely be an expensive upgrade.
 
While true they wouldn't over spec that much unless they had to. The OG PS4 used a 200 watt PSU and it's power consumption was around 150 Watts. This system should not use much more than 170 Watts yet the PSU can provide upto 50% more power. It just does not make sense to me to over spec by such a large margin unless there was a reason.

Incorrect. PS4 used a 250W PSU and used 150W. The PS3 used a 380W PSU and used an absolute max of 210W but more typically 180-190W.

Sony have always specced the PSUs like this presumably for the 50-60% load efficiency sweet spot.
 
The Xbone S looks better and better.

An actual 4k UHD Blu-ray player with low power consumption to boot.

Sony done messed this one up.

It's a games console first and foremost and that's why people will mostly buy them. For better visual presentation and gameplay of the GAMES. If people want to buy a peice of plastic just for a 4K Blu-Ray player then they have more money than sense I tell you.
 
What's the difference between xbox one s upscaling to 4k vs this? Curious.

PS4 Pro is upscaling or reconstructing from double or maybe triple the resolution (or more, given how sub-1080p some XB1 games get!) than XB1-S.

XB1-S is simply upscaling the same original XB1 resolution. PS4 Pro is rendering at much higher, even if not 4K-native, buffers. The precise source resolution will vary from game to game, and some may use other more sophisticated temporal or checkerboard techniques.
 
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