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No Mafia III Review Copies Ahead of Launch

You could also just walk into a store on day one and buy the game. Preordering videogames is a completely ridiculous concept that the publishers have tricked many consumers into.

Yeah, I only pre-ordered because I was able to get it for $30 alongside $10 back in credit. I'll wait for some first impressions and see what I want to do from there in regards to returning it or not. I'm honestly not too worried, though
 
lol what?

what game besides DOOM hasn't been average to bad when the developer ships review copies late?

I have the game preloaded after my love of the first two, but I'm pessimistic.

BioShock: The Collection was released just few weeks ago. The reviews came after the release and yet 96% of critics recommend this game (from OpenCritic). And just like BioShock, Mafia III is also published by 2K Games.
 
You could also just walk into a store on day one and buy the game. Preordering videogames is a completely ridiculous concept that the publishers have tricked many consumers into.

How is buying a game cheaper than you would've payed going to a store on day one stupid?
 
I've played it for six hours at an event last week. I've also captured some footage.

So ask away. I'll try to respond as much as I can.

Also, would it be considered spam/advertisement if I'd share the YouTube link to my 30 minutes of footage?
 
How is buying a game cheaper than you would've payed going to a store on day one stupid?

I wouldn't say stupid, but you might change your mind on buying the game, if early reviews are bad, surely?

In the case of PC games, at least, prices rarely go up that much after release. Not worth pre-ordering IMO.
 
I've played it for six hours at an event last week. I've also captured some footage.

So ask away. I'll try to respond as much as I can.

Also, would it be considered spam/advertisement if I'd share the YouTube link to my 30 minutes of footage?

1) How does the gunplay feel? Is there a lot of "punch" to the weapons?
2) How is the AI, is it really so "dumb"/blind?
3) How are the animations in general and how was performance (on the platform you played)?
 
I've played it for six hours at an event last week. I've also captured some footage.

So ask away. I'll try to respond as much as I can.

Also, would it be considered spam/advertisement if I'd share the YouTube link to my 30 minutes of footage?

Is it a technical mess? Is it boring?
 
I wouldn't say stupid, but you might change your mind on buying the game, if early reviews are bad, surely?

In the case of PC games, at least, prices rarely go up that much after release. Not worth pre-ordering IMO.

In my case, review aren't affecting my decision of buying a game, so if I'm in the position to buy WD2 at half the price on day one while paying when the game ships it would be dumb of me not to do it.

And even though I change my mind about preordering it I can just cancel my preorder, I wasn't even charged.

I rarely do it and would never if I needed to pay in advance but theres legitimate case where preorder is a better alternative.

Never heard of buying a pig in a poke?

Nope, english isn't my native language so I don't know this saying.
 
There is gameplay footage up on YouTube. Exclude the cutscenes and I don't think it looks great. The open world gameplay looks extremely last-gen.

I loved the original Mafia game (and Hidden & Dangerous 2 by the same studio) but I don't think it's 3rd time lucky.
 
1) How does the gunplay feel? Is there a lot of "punch" to the weapons?
2) How is the AI, is it really so "dumb"/blind?
3) How are the animations in general and how was performance (on the platform you played)?
1) Yes, very much so. That's one of the main things I REALLY enjoyed about the game: the gunplay and the oomph. The SFX have a nice amount of 'body' to 'em. And the effect when a bullet hits is very 'fleshy', kinda Gears of War-like (but not as over the top).

2) AI is kinda dumb/blind. But on normal they hit hard, so getting in an all out fire fight and attracting the police will get you killed fast.

3) Animations are good, especially in fire fights. When you shoot a guy who's got his back against a wall, he'll bump into it before dropping down. Shooting specific body parts also triggers different animations.

All in all: I REALLY like blasting fools away in this game. So the foundation of the gameplay is solid.
 
In that case I'll order from cdkeys or gmg

I mean, this seems like a bad reaction tbh

No prerelease review copies doesn't mean that there aren't going to be reviews. If you were planning on buying it from Steam or a store then just wait a day or two longer and do that. It's better than going through a third party where you don't know how the money gets back to the dev
 
Is it a technical mess? Is it boring?
Hmm, not a technical mess. There's some jank (both good and 'bad', as in: kill animations slightly clipping through a wall). And on pc (the platform I played on) there were some graphical glitches. Nothing too bad.

And no, I don't find it boring. It's very story heavy (at least the beginning), and I had great fun simply sneaking around and killing dudes. The fundamentals feel right; blasting someone with an AK is fun. To me that's a good sign.
 
And more times than not, they don't point out shit. Take MGSV for example. Easily a checklist box game with repetitive areas, locations and side missions and objectives yet not a single fucking reviewer mentioned any of this. Add in the shitty story and boring characters and well, if it wasn't for the gameplay and Kojima's name on the game, it would have barely hit a 7/10 if that. Point being that some games get a free pass and are praised to the Gods despite usually being underwhelming and disappointing.

Uncharted 4 is another perfect example. Two horribly misused characters. Same lame ass ending as the ones before, only one action scene, boring flashbacks which were just a copy from Uncharted 3, gameplay that wasn't great at all and whoever made the cover/roll whatever button the same button was drunk that day.

These are just two examples of games that while good are nowhere near great or classic or perfect. Yet because reviewers say they are, people tend to be like sheep and just follow the herd.

Well said. Add in Fallout 4 and you've got a complete list of recent examples.

If I was genuinely unsure on a game then I'd wait for the dust to settle and then go by the general GAF consensus.
 
It looked janky as fuck in the trailers

https://youtu.be/5zDnuZ2OUBA

Yea, I really just don't think it looks that good. We'll see the reaction post release. But I probably won't be touching this at least until I have a playstation again in November with the Pro. I have a great gaming PC but I feel like this isn't a game I would care to hold onto for long.

Seems a little too close to Mafia II's controls, AI and animation for my tastes.
 
Pre-ordered yesterday, now trying to clean up my hard drive to make room for the install. Gaming press got to play 6 hour demo a while ago, I've heard some impressions based on that so I have some idea of what is going to be good and what isn't. I expect this to land 80(+) on metacritic.
 
I've played it for six hours at an event last week. I've also captured some footage.

So ask away. I'll try to respond as much as I can.

Also, would it be considered spam/advertisement if I'd share the YouTube link to my 30 minutes of footage?

Did you try driving with the sim mode on? If so how was it?

Did the police react at all to any kind of traffic violations? IE running red lights, speeding, etc.


Was taking over areas repetitive like for example, the Godfather games? OR was there a lot of variety to them and what how they played out?

Also lastly, link to your video plz, I'd like to see it.
 
Fingers crossed for the driving physics, the original was simply amazing. Never played the sequel but the little footage I've seen from mafia 3 looked arse, exploding cars, really arcade handling and sliding everywhere..
 
No review code and all of the sudden people got magnifying glasses lol, bad driving, janky animayions, bad shooting, it is crazy how deep in some people minds a damn score is, the game looks incredible from all the footage we have had, is not like there's no gameplay at all, there has to be different reasons for the embargo to lift so late, i remember people flipping out with doom and that turned out to be the best SP shooter of the last decade, sorry wolfenstein fans
 
No review code and all of the sudden people got magnifying glasses lol, bad driving, janky animayions, bad shooting, it is crazy how deep in some people minds a damn score is
Don't think it has something to do with a score for most people, it's just a bad sign, period. The game has been flying under the radar since its announcement and they didn't really show all that much of actual gameplay, so why wouldn't they want at least reviews before its release if they were expecting them to be good? Makes no sense.
 
Never heard of buying a pig in a poke?

Nope, english isn't my native language so I don't know this saying.

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It means to buy something without seeing it first. Most other languages have a similar expression along the lines of "buying a cat in a sack," as the expression comes from a con in the late Middle Ages where someone would sell you what they said was a pig in a bag but actually turned out to be a cat or a dog, which was not what you wanted to eat usually.

In English it became "poke" from corruption of the French word "poque."
 
Did you try driving with the sim mode on? If so how was it?

Did the police react at all to any kind of traffic violations? IE running red lights, speeding, etc.


Was taking over areas repetitive like for example, the Godfather games? OR was there a lot of variety to them and what how they played out?

Also lastly, link to your video plz, I'd like to see it.

Yes, tried the sim driving. It was noticeably different, it was harder for me to keep the muscle car in check and speed away from the police who were chasing me. Can't say wether it was realistic or not, but it sure was harder.

Nope, on normal (haven't tried other difficulties) the police don't care. There's this mechanic where the game tells you when the cops have eyes on you (a blue arrow), but they don't react to you driving like a madman. They'll react to violence.

And taking over areas pertains a lot of violence in different ways. Interrogation, killing, destroying objects, things like that. It depends on the way you approach the missions. I've used a silent pistol a lot, snuck around, and I've blasted my way through some situations. I mostly stuck to one playstyle and I had fun the entire demo. But I could see someone finding it a bit repetitive after ten plus hours. Though there are a enough weapons to differentiate your playstyle.

The game does a decent job of surfacing the smaller missions in different ways. For example: cars will drive by containing a 'kill target', or it says you should/could follow the car. This makes it a bit more dynamic.


My footage:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6dPofpyhr-M
 
Watch it being an okay game on top of an absolute technical fuck up. Just a (pretty strong) feeling.
 
Don't think it has something to do with a score for most people, it's just a bad sign, period. The game has been flying under the radar since its announcement and they didn't really show all that much of actual gameplay, so why wouldn't they want at least reviews before its release if they were expecting them to be good? Makes no sense.
You serious? Just type mafia 3 on youtube and you can find previews that last hours, this game has had so much coverage, almost every YouTube game channel has a gameplay preview and they're recent and almost everyone that has played tha game praises it
 
JodokusK would you recommend buying/playing it? I feel like the game is getting undeserved hate mostly by those who have not played it.
 
Don't think it has something to do with a score for most people, it's just a bad sign, period. The game has been flying under the radar since its announcement and they didn't really show all that much of actual gameplay, so why wouldn't they want at least reviews before its release if they were expecting them to be good? Makes no sense.

Bruh, I don't know how much lookin' you actually did, but the internet is full of gameplay for this game

Plus I've had ads all over the place for it. I don't think that's a fair criticism to throw at this game.

You can read as much into no preview copy getting sent out as much as you want, but I don't think it's as big of an indicator as to the quality of the title as we're lead to believe

I wouldn't be surprised if, regardless of why it's happening in this case, in the future more big budget titles did this.
 
JodokusK would you recommend buying/playing it? I feel like the game is getting undeserved hate mostly by those who have not played it.
Yeah, if you enjoy open world games where you take over the map district by district, you know the type.

It's like Sleeping Dogs meets Shadow of Mordor (both games I really enjoyed a ton).

After playing it for six hours, I really just wanna go back to it. I had so much fun shooting people, it felt great, sounded great, and I had fun applying my style of playing to the situations. Also, the story and the villains just work. It's pulpy, but still well written, and when Lincoln angrily decides to murder everyone even slightly affiliated with the death of his 'family', I was right there with him. It's simple, but it works.

I can imagine it looks average. But hot damn, I really like shooting people in Mafia 3 :P
 
Cars sound nice, but weapons sound very weak and not even remotely close to what they sound like in real life. AK-47 sounds like airsoft gun in Mafia 3, apparently :/ Shame considering awesome car audio and weighty movement audio for Lincoln.

Some visual glitches and flickering here and there, but nothing too major.
Hmm, maybe the sound is a speaker/headset-thing. For my taste it has a lot of oomph. Or maybe it's a YouTube thing; once I'm back at the office I'll compare the footage on YouTube with my recordings.
 
Mafia II was so bad and left unfinished that I was anyway going to wait before even thinking about getting this.
 
I was very positive towards this game after E3, but the recent streams don't look too hot. The world feels very flat and lifeless, it looks kinda washed out.
 
One reason is that they have a bunch of pre-orders and don't want to risk them cancelling when they predict mediocre reviews to come in.

This. Pre-orders matter to these companies (hence all the pre-order extras) and it would be a disaster if no one pre-ordered.

Peiple need to get used to no reviews before release. I'd only worry if you've seen no footage.
I've learned my lesson. While I'm hyped for the game and previews have been positive, no man's sky pre order without in depth reviews was a mistake. I'm not getting games from a Dev I've played no previous game from before so I don't have any confidence built from experience
 
No review code and all of the sudden people got magnifying glasses lol, bad driving, janky animayions, bad shooting, it is crazy how deep in some people minds a damn score is, the game looks incredible from all the footage we have had, is not like there's no gameplay at all, there has to be different reasons for the embargo to lift so late, i remember people flipping out with doom and that turned out to be the best SP shooter of the last decade, sorry wolfenstein fans

The gameplay thread has been full of people voicing their concerns regarding repetitive gameplay and technical issues for sometime now a move like this has done nothing to bolster confidence.
 
BioShock: The Collection was released just few weeks ago. The reviews came after the release and yet 96% of critics recommend this game (from OpenCritic). And just like BioShock, Mafia III is also published by 2K Games.

Xcom 2 just came out on consoles with no early codes or previews or anything of the sort and it's excellent and runs fine.
You could say well it's almost a year old but then I'd say well then what'd they have to lose!
I'll keep my preorder at Best Buy and wait for impressions before I open it

So...Ports?

Pretty bad examples tbh
 
I still think it looks fun, but I am going to hold off. I am over jumping on every game I even slightly want on day one because I have been burned one too many times. I'll just stick with picking up Skyrim: Special Edition this Fall. An enhanced version of a game I know I love to hell and back.
 
And more times than not, they don't point out shit. Take MGSV for example. Easily a checklist box game with repetitive areas, locations and side missions and objectives yet not a single fucking reviewer mentioned any of this. Add in the shitty story and boring characters and well, if it wasn't for the gameplay and Kojima's name on the game, it would have barely hit a 7/10 if that. Point being that some games get a free pass and are praised to the Gods despite usually being underwhelming and disappointing.

Uncharted 4 is another perfect example. Two horribly misused characters. Same lame ass ending as the ones before, only one action scene, boring flashbacks which were just a copy from Uncharted 3, gameplay that wasn't great at all and whoever made the cover/roll whatever button the same button was drunk that day.

These are just two examples of games that while good are nowhere near great or classic or perfect. Yet because reviewers say they are, people tend to be like sheep and just follow the herd.

As for Paper Mario, I can't comment on since I don't care about Nintendo these days but okay, one game where the reviewers were correct but how many times have they actually been correct for you? Majority of the time for most people, they're wrong and usually way off. I know they are for me. Hell, if reviews even match my opinions on games 10% of the time, I'll be shocked.

What's been going on in this thread? Holy shit. I don't like reviewers either but what a terrible damn post.
 
I like the small touches like the soundtrack and the collectible magazines, and the overall ambience is nice as well. The gunplay looks like it's lacking that satisfying oomph to it but it doesn't look too bad. Everything seems decent enough for early reviews to be made imo.
 
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It means to buy something without seeing it first. Most other languages have a similar expression along the lines of "buying a cat in a sack," as the expression comes from a con in the late Middle Ages where someone would sell you what they said was a pig in a bag but actually turned out to be a cat or a dog, which was not what you wanted to eat usually.

In English it became "poke" from corruption of the French word "poque."

You're wrong about the cat in the bag, it's a cat o nine tails (a whip) they'd lash people with 'a cat'. Don't let the cat out the bag, not enough room to swing a cat etc
 
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