PSVR will pass through 4K but not HDR to your 4KTV
- Thread starter Marty Chinn
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OrionsNebula
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I guess so haha. I can understand people being a bit annoyed, but to be upset or mad about it is just silly. I'm just surprised how much backlash there is about unplugging and then plugging a cord in!
DJ Lushious
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It comes with earbuds. It's important to note that.
Nothing about the PSVR breakout box being HDMI 1.4 is good for anyone adopting the standard the industry is moving to.
So, in order for me to switch to 4K+HDR on my UHDTV, while using the PSVR, I will need to
- Squeeze in between my TV and the wall
- Unplug the HDMI cable going from the breakout box to my 4K+HDR compatible receiver
- Take said HDMI cable and squeeze into an even tighter space in my entertainment center
- Plug HDMI cable into PS4/Pro
- Try not to kill myself during any of these steps
This is all shades of ridiculous. I feel especially bad for those that have wall mounted HDTVs or have run cabling through the walls/floors.
Omnistalgic
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It's forums man...
IRL this is maybe a minor inconvenience, for people that are even upgrading their TV, and for people that are constantly switching being VR and PS4 that are specially playing a game with HDR support.
It's literally switching a cable lol...
A PS5 won't solve these issues. This is a problem with the PSVR break-out box which was seemingly designed without any input from the Pro team.
Changing cables isn't exactly like changing a disc, now is it? I don't think you're considering the huge range of setups people are using. It's a bad solution and a huge oversight.
DJ Lushious
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Well, yeah, that's what everyone was under the assumption of. Now, if you have a 4K+HDR compatible TV, then that breakout box will not pass through the HDR signal in that 4K+HDR signal.
get2sammyb
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This is silly, irritating, and dumb. But some people do need to take a chill pill before posting.
An annoying oversight -- nothing more, nothing less.
An annoying oversight -- nothing more, nothing less.
CarbonFire
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You're correct, and this is pretty dumb considering the existence of the PS4Pro.
The breakout box having an HDMI out to the TV serves two purposes: it eliminates the need for swapping cables, and it allows for "social" experiences for people who are in the room NOT wearing the PSVR. Having to swap cables to get the most out of your 4k experience is a huge oversight, hopefully this can be fixed through a firmware upgrade.
DJ Lushious
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Just because your setup allows for you to easily swap HDMI cables at will does not make everyone else's setup the same. Let's start thinking about the variability of people's setups, including Home Theaters.
Fess
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Uhm, the Xbox One reveal had nothing to do with hubris of being on top, their strategy was crystal clear, they just didn't have a clue what their customers wanted.
As for PSVR, I simply think the VR project started out when HDR wasn't a thing and was eventually left out because it didn't seem like such a big deal.
LOL if this is an actual concern, I think you ought to leave it up to someone else who can put in a splitter.
If you have an open HDMI port on your receiver, you might want to use an extra cable to the PS4, negating these steps. Still bad, but a little bit less.
You did already fooled around with the PSVR, right?
Allow me to blatantly go off-topic, but do you have any idea why the breakoutbox has an additional AUX-port?
Marty Chinn
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What additional AUX port? I don't remember seeing one.
joecanada
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I'm not criticizing but it kind of always amazes me how many people are early adopters of new video game tech but don't even have an av receiver. priorities I guess, just seems weird to have such shitty sound for a hdmi device.
tv speakers oh god no why. lol. (I know some people prefer or need headphones to be quiet at night, etc).
DangerMouse
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There most likely aren't. Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray also do not use 4:4:4
UHD Blu-ray spec is still 4:2:0
Fess
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The HDMI ports aren't made for frequent switching either, surface mounted and far too fragile for thick modern cables, enough plugging in and out in a hurry might cause the solder pads to break off from the circuit board.
Marty Chinn
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Actually two more cords, the splitter and the additional HDMI cord on top of having to take up two inputs instead of one just to connect the PS4 now. I already have 8 HDMI devices hooked up. Having to hook up another one isn't ideal, not to mention the complexity of the wiring of my setup combined with the simplicity of design of usage.
Also this too.
The PS4 Pro does not have two HDMI outputs.
For everybody saying just buy a splitter, I don't think it's that easy, or if it is somebody needs to link me to a good splitter, because I've been looking for one to use to split my pc.
First of all, a good hdmi splitter that does 4k 4:4:4 60 hz is pretty expensive. Second of all, as fas as I've gathered from inquiring to sellers, If you split the signal and one signal ends at 4:2:0, the other signal will default to 4:2:0 as well. So if you used a splitter in this case, it would be pointless because both signals would just deault to whatever the PSVR passes through.
If the PSVR can't pass through HDR, then a splitter won't pass HDR to either end of the chain.
First of all, a good hdmi splitter that does 4k 4:4:4 60 hz is pretty expensive. Second of all, as fas as I've gathered from inquiring to sellers, If you split the signal and one signal ends at 4:2:0, the other signal will default to 4:2:0 as well. So if you used a splitter in this case, it would be pointless because both signals would just deault to whatever the PSVR passes through.
If the PSVR can't pass through HDR, then a splitter won't pass HDR to either end of the chain.
Marty Chinn
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Both of those connections go out to the headset.
f@luS
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I have no more hdmi on my tv just 3 already used. So it's more like ps4p/psvr/tv for psvr then take out PS4 pro to psvr hdmi cable straight to for non psvr games.
An it annoying but ok
HDR? Because it super doesn't.
What looks the same?
Both ports go to the headset. You have to pull the cover back, plug in the two plugs to the headset, and let it go. There's no extra port.
YuriLowell
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Well i guess its a good thing that VR is not going to take off.
Ah, I missed that, though it's quite clearly in the blue cable layout picture. Here I was with my head thinking it was somehow needed to plug in the Eye, instead of it being in the normal PS4 port.
The TLDR is pretty straightforward; if you want to view HDR content on a PS4 or PS4 Pro, it has to be hooked directly to the TV and not through a PSVR processing unit.
ss_lemonade
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Cthulhu_Steev
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Eh I kinda thought, combined with Sony's lack of firm HDR support on their TV sets and the overall messaging at announcement, that HDR was kind of a last minute addition. This supports that, somewhat. I don't think they were going to push it with Pro, but with XB1S pushing it, they were able to give us a software solution. Like UHD, they were probably going to skip both with Pro since adoption and standards are not where they need to be yet
As others have pointed out - it does come with bundled plugs - but I kind of like the headset plug coming from the HMD wire. Other headsets make it a lot more unwieldy to plug your own headphones.LukasTaves said:
I do think wireless should technically work with Pulse/Gold wireless headphones (connect the transmitter into PSVR output), but that just puts a wire in another direction rather than save it - so probably defeats the purpose.
Rain City Gamer
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I think the headsets need to be wired for 3D sound, you'd have to use ear buds or a cord with the Gold/Pulse headsets, I believe there is supposed to be a jack on the VR headset itself iirc
wesleyshark
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Laughed so hard it hurt a little
DJ Lushious
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I would buy the Gold or Platinum headset in a heartbeat if I could use them wirelessly with the PSVR. But having that is about as likely as the PSVR breakout box being able to pass through HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2.
Gtagentleman
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brb setting up psvr
I would buy the Gold or Platinum headset in a heartbeat if I could use them wirelessly with the PSVR. But having that is about as likely as the PSVR breakout box being able to pass through HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2.
Well you should be able to use them wirelessly without issue, they just won't have 3D positional audio that the breakout box handles (would be audio straight from the PS4)
DJ Lushious
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No, but it's the only logical inference we can make. HDMI 1.4 can pass through 4K, but at a diminished refresh rate (specs say 24P, but it seems 30P is doable). And since HDMI 2.0 is the next spec, which can pass 4K and HDR (with the A revision), we have to assume it's HDMI 1.4, which is already in the PS4.
That's what I meant.
Yeah but PS4 has 1.4 but does HDR so obviously there's some trickery going on. Probably can't update the PU's firmware though, which might be the issue that prevents this from getting done
@ bolded. Exactly. I just smells of different groups not talking with each other. It's a strange oversight.