It's kind of a shame that Trump's campaign has to end like this...

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McDougles said:
Dude, EVERY SINGLE ELECTION has some sort of historic moment in October that sways the election.

Romney 2012: 47%
McCain 2008: "The foundations of our economy are strong."
Kerry 2004: Obsessed with using Cheney's lesbian daughter as a political prop.
Gore 2000: Poor debate stagecraft, including sighing passively and getting awkwardly close to Bush during the debates.
Dole 1996: Fell off a fucking stage at 73.
H.W. Bush 1992: Kept looking at his watch during a debate.

Even Trump's election-ending moment is way yuuuuuuuuuger than the others.
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I think you're overstating the impact of those moments. I think you're only bringing them up because all the political commentators have mentioned them for a couple days because they're relevant to the VP debates or the town hall debates.
 
Jobbs said:
Same question. Why would this matter to undecideds if nothing else has?

His campaign is already a farce, he's already said things so monstrously offensive and beyond the pale that conventional wisdom says he should have been buried a long long time ago. I don't understand why some sexist comments from someone who's already a known sexist and a racist and a liar and a know nothing and a blow hard would suddenly be the deciding factor.
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We've talked about this so many times in the main thread.

Not every Republican knows or likes a brown person, so the racism doesn't have the same effect. Every Republican has a mother and other female relatives and friends, so outside of true red-pill, PUA-MRA types, this does matter.
 
Fj0823 said:
I want to see his business destroyed after the election.

I want to enjoy looking at Jr's eyes as he slowly realizes his inheritance will be a couple of Subway Coupons

But as it is,It's enough for the world
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I like how your petty is setup
 
border said:
Supporters and Republican diehards will blame his loss on a "Gotcha" scandal from 10 years ago rather than Trump's terrible policies and positions. "Oh if only some disreputable person hadn't secretly recorded him long ago, he would definitely be president now! If someone had saved those Clinton emails she would have lost bigly!" Now there's a convenient excuse for an election loss that was probably inevitable anyway.

As much as I'm glad to see his house of cards come crumbling down, I wish that people could see it as a steadfast repudiation of his values rather than a reaction to him being a terrible sexist, racist scumbag. At this point there's almost no chance for Trump to wash off the stink of his deplorable comments, so in the future this loss will be chalked up to poor discipline rather than egregious policy.
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The fact that we're here at all means that it's still America's funeral
 
Uhyve said:
As someone from from the outside of the US, I honestly don't get why this is any worse than any of the other awful things he's done, but if it's stops him from having the opportunity to screw up the international community any more than it currently is, then I am thankful, we don't need a moron in change of one of the most important countries in the world after all.

I just worry that this might seem like a killing blow to sane people, stopping some sane people from bothering to vote. While at the same time, Trump voters might not give a crap, and vote as the initially intended to. Ya know? He's done plenty already, and he was still a threat, so, why now? Did he reach some sort of limit?

There seemed to be actual (non-dumb-youtube-conspiracy) evidence that he was in some way tied to the Russians.... that didn't seem to matter, why this? I just don't understand.
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The U.S. is a country that has no problem with children seeing thousands of people get murdered as entertainment, but will instantly cry about moral corruption if they so much hear about an exposed breast. They have no issue with his talk of violence, war, torture, and murder, but knowing he's a "morally impure" pervert would cause some people to stop in their tracks with their support.
 
And here I though that Twitter meltdown was what did him in.

The controversies are daily with him. Tomorrow: "Which NBA star did Trump call the n-word? Find out at 11"
 
JoeyJungle said:
I think you're overstating the impact of those moments.
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I'm not saying that these, and only these, are the moments that represent the only things that went wrong to bury a campaign. However, due to their proximity to absentee and early voting, their prominence is huge. Each of these moments absolutely swayed the remaining undecided voters, and only half of them are from debates.

If you're telling me that John McCain saying the economy was strong DAYS before the stock market collapse didn't have a major impact on the election, you're crazy.
 
Fuck the GOP, I hope they keep learning the wrong lessons from their general election failures. The voting demographics will never put another one of their shitheel candidates in the White House again. Fuck em.
 
In a world where Trump's campaign is not certain to end because of something like this, I am not sure why anyone would think it a shame if it did.

If the American people have not, in a sweeping majority, decided that this piece of shit is a piece of shit by now, then I will gladly take anything that makes them more aware of it. The results matter here, not the means.
 
I wouldn't get too comfortable yet. People who have been backing him will dig in their heels.

They can't go back on their candidate at this point. That would make them look silly.
 
Rentahamster said:
In the battle over optics, possibly. But by that metric, I feel that Hillary buckling over at the 9/11 memorial, of all places, was worse optics.
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I mean sure, if your optics are framed by right wing conspiracy theories, then Hillary Clinton having pneumonia on 9/11 is worse optics. But the optics of the majority of Americans still aren't framed by right wing conspiracy theories.
 
platakul said:
He doesn't actually have any policy, so how would policy sink him?????
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I have it on good authority that Trump's policies are the best policies, the greatest policies. Unbelievably excellent policies made by the smartest people in the world.
 
I'm honestly waiting for a bigger tape coming out. Considering his hate of the central park five, I hope it's something real nasty.

F u Trump
 
AYF 001 said:
The U.S. is a country that has no problem with children seeing thousands of people get murdered as entertainment, but will instantly cry about moral corruption if they so much hear about an exposed breast. They have no issue with his talk of violence, war, torture, and murder, but knowing he's a "morally impure" pervert would cause some people to stop in their tracks with their support.
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Ha, I suppose a country leader being in some way morally impure wouldn't cause someone from the UK to bat an eye after Cameron, lol.
 
McDougles said:
Dude, EVERY SINGLE ELECTION has some sort of historic moment in October that sways the election.

Romney 2012: 47%
McCain 2008: "The foundations of our economy are strong."
Dole 1996: Fell off a fucking stage at 73.
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These all happened in mid-September.

Kerry 2004: Obsessed with using Cheney's lesbian daughter as a political prop.
Gore 2000: Poor debate stagecraft, including sighing passively and getting awkwardly close to Bush during the debates.
H.W. Bush 1992: Kept looking at his watch during a debate.
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These aren't even close to what were considered the "October Surprises" of those elections. In 1992, Reagan Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger was indicted four days before the election. Ross Perot re-entered the race on the last day of September. In 2000, George W. Bush's DUI was revealed a few days before the election. In 2004, bin Laden put out a new video on October 29th.
 
Boo fucking hoo. Trump can go break his foot kicking rocks. I literally couldn't care less what caused his campaign to fail so long as it fails.
 
No the real shame in all this is that enough human beings in this country let it get this far. They voted for this piece of shit who had already shown himself to be a vile human being. That's the real shame about all of this.
 
Pundits like Hannity have already set up that they will blame any Trump loss on the Republicans who didn't back Trump. And those Pundits control the Republican base.

We'll get another nutter in four years. I could even see Trump trying again.
 
I don't have enough faith in the American people to compeltley rule out a trump win, in my book there's still like a 5% chance. But yeah, this was a huge blow to a campaign that was already loosing steam.
 
ZombiePlatypus said:
It's over? His supporters are doubling down from what I've read and seen.
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He can keep those, they're not enough to win him the election.

Dude is done. There's simply not enough time for him to turn it around. This is too devastating and too close to the actual election, not to mention absentee and early voting is already underway.
 
DrForester said:
Pundits like Hannity have already set up that they will blame any Trump loss on the Republicans who didn't back Trump. And those Pundits control the Republican base.

We'll get another nutter in four years. I could even see Trump trying again.
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Hannity is on his way out. Trump is toxic, even those within his own party are turning against him, and the support he gathered from them was always soft and tense. The pundits will turn against him worse than anyone, especially if the rumors of him wanting to start a rival network ends up true. They are going to bury Trump after this cycle, and most of his diehards will latch onto next the cult of personality.
 
Wait what happened? Ive been out of the loop lately.
 
GrizzNKev said:
After everything else, you think THIS is going to end him?

haaaaaaaahahahahahahha
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He's not going to drop out because of this, but this is effectively the end of his campaign. If you can't tell the difference between this and all his other crap, I don't know what to tell you. He's done.
 
I agree. You were cool when he promised to force the military commit war crimes and torture. When he called Mexicans rapists. When called for banning all Muslims from entering the country. When he showed the policy knowledge of a middle school kid who didn't read the book they were supposed to do a report on. When he constantly insulted people and mocked and belittled. And now you are trying to save face by saying that this one thing makes him unfit? This thing that totally and completely fits the patter of all his other behavior that you already knew. You can't brush that crap under the rug. You publicly supported him through all of it. You own that forever.
 
I just want to say that we shouldn't get to make this kind of thread yet.

Let's go fucking vote. We can celebrate/stroke our egos in exactly 31 days, when we follow through. Not before then.
 
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