That is really terrific news, thanks.
IndieGogo - Windows 10 GPD Handheld -299$ "A Laptop Fitting in Your Pocket"
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That is really terrific news, thanks.
Which was your order date? Mine is 10/13/2016 and is still stuck on Processing,.
09/10/2016
I preordered one month earlier than you
Hey got this as well ha
purseowner
Member
I'm #2000-and-something. Hope it shows sometime next month - I'm dying to play Owlboy and Xanadu Next.
Phawx
Member
I only have one data point, but if you check the dolphin blog from a month or two ago, Vulkan performed better or par with DX12.
Also for PPSSPP there is only future support for Vulkan right now. Looking forward to the future with updates.
DrROBschiz
Member
Im legit surprised it struggles with PPSSPP or am i reading these previous posts wrong
Hell my experia play could run a few PSP games on low settings
Phawx
Member
I'm actually happy with perf of PPSSPP. Metal gear and God of War stutter but every other game I played is super smooth.
Also, thats perf today. It's only going to get better. Nice thing about Windows over Android is how easy it is to update the driver.
DrROBschiz
Member
Good to know
I was curious. I know PPSSPP is a solid emulator at this point and runs smooth on just about eveything
Yep seems like it haha, no email confirmation is pretty silly.
For the PSP games that ran better, have you tried increasing the resolution?
Phawx
Member
Well, stock config was def in the 2-3 hour mark on heavy gaming Fan@max. After my BIOS changes to increase performance it's < 2 hours. We'll see how I go forward after I do my heatsink mod. I might revert all my changes and never use the fan to try to get to 4 hours.
I didn't. The Burnout game I could probably easily increase resolution but honestly, PSP games look amazing on the GPDwin.
Got three more videos up:
Rocket League: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCqanQsdr4I
Skyrim (with Low Spec Gamer settings): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQaL8teDDoE
Ori and The Blind Forest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi3MrrXZWK4
GhostTrick
Banned
I'm surprised by your PPSSPP performances. I remember getting better performances on Baytrail. That was with the DirectX backend.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
That's really impressive stuff Phawx. Have you thought about Dark Souls with a super low internal resolution using Dsfix?
Maybe we could get an indie showcase? Isaac, Spelunky, Gungeon, etc?
I subbed btw.
Maybe we could get an indie showcase? Isaac, Spelunky, Gungeon, etc?
I subbed btw.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
Well Phawx has his system 'unlocked' and is running really intense stuff. I imagine normal battery life is better. Maybe around five hours like they advertise?
Phawx
Member
For the most part, many games do run very well. It's just GoW or Metal Gear that showed poor perf.
I'll load up Dark Souls now and try to work with DSfix to see what I can manage. I think for tonight the only other video I was planning was showing Mario Kart Double Dash PAL and how well it works.
Doing an Indie Showcase is a good idea, I gotta load up Kingdom: New Lands which will be great on a handheld.
Thanks for subbing, it's totally not necessary. I just do the YT stuff as a hobby.
These are worst case scenarios. Also like Dr. Benton Quest mentions, I have my GPD Win unlocked which puts out more heat which is far more wasteful, energy wise. So the <2 hour case is if you are running like me. Otherwise, playing a 3D game from 2007 would be in the 3 hour range, realistically.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
Excellent. Low spec gamer has a great Dark Souls guide.
What do you expect when he's literally playing the most intense games he can run on the device and pushing it as far as he can, watch the Nintendo Switch have similar issues or just slightly better.
Less intense gaming or emulation won't drain it as fast.
Phawx
Member
It's not that good.
even the PAL version isn't that great. Hopefully future versions of Dolphin can make it run faster but right now it's not good at all.Having said all that, Intel released a new beta driver two days ago. Installing now and hoping Vulkan doesn't instacrash
Nope :/
Sevyne
Member
It's not that good.
Having said all that, Intel released a new beta driver two days ago. Installing now and hoping Vulkan doesn't instacrash
That's a shame. The one thing I've dreamed of for years is Prime on the go. Hopefully we're close to that reality.
HowardRoark
Member
You might get that with VC on the Switch. We'll see.
Sevyne
Member
Very true. Didn't even think of that.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Do you think battery life would double? It'll still be like 3 max I'm guessing. Wish it had 10k battery. Oh well. Trade offs for weight and usability. Still a good start to this market space.
I mean, it really does depend on the kind of game and how intensive it is. Not necessarily double but I don't see why it wouldn't last 4/5 hours on older games/low req indie games.
It's kinda hard to judge battery life on something like this with the vast array of games you can technically play on this alongside the OS and the fan and whatever its running. I guess buying an external power pack might be necessary for plane trips and whatnot since I think three hours is fine for general use
Phawx
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Technically you can make it run for a real long time but from a stock perspective, like a person who isn't going to touch the bios or even disable battery saver in Windows, I think a healthy outlook is 4 hours of gaming max. This thing will stay idle on for 10 hours if you wanted, like if someone wanted to use it as a umpc, 6 hours is easy.
But if the only thing you really expect out of this is to game, don't expect more than 4 hours.
I have two more videos coming up soon. Dark souls with dsfiX and the PAL version of Mario kart.
But if the only thing you really expect out of this is to game, don't expect more than 4 hours.
I have two more videos coming up soon. Dark souls with dsfiX and the PAL version of Mario kart.
Super Mario Sunshine running fullspeed, apparently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcEUDb3JxKw
Not sure if 8700 or 8750 though.
Not sure if 8700 or 8750 though.
Do you have Dark Souls 2? I'd love to see it tested as well, I think it might run better than 1.
Phawx
Member
"IMPORTANT!: You need to open the Graphics configuration menu after the game starts every time you run a game. You only have to do this once and then it continues to run at the faster speed until you end the emulation/current game. You can see me do this at the start of the video."
What is this? I gotta try this mumbo jumbo. I'll report back and let you guys know my findings.
I do. I can give it a go.
Two more videos.
Dark Souls with DSfix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TXi0WmqlHI
Mario Kart Double Dash PAL version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeTsDpQXaIM
HOLY SHIT! It actually worked. Why does this work?! It doesn't make any sense? Mario Sunshine is playing full speed for me.
Nice. Hopefully this voodoo magic will work on other titles.
Phawx
Member
Awesome. Hopefully it bumps a lot of other titles from "almost there" to "perfect".
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Fuuuuuu
Is getting knocked through the door by the undead asylum demon scripted, or were you just really lucky there? I don't remember that. It's always a joy to watch people play it for the first time, though, you should really play it from start to end!
I heard others were getting it to run, but it looks like even at incredibly low resolutions* Dark Souls is still choppy. I'm hoping DS2 will run better. Thanks again for the videos!
They could be but without making direct sales from software its not a very profitable market, hopefully more company's dive into it, and hey with Nintendo sticking around even if Nintendo don't do Windows handhelds there with always be Chinese company's to *copy* it.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
Thanks a ton man. DS1 is an awful port so I wasn't expecting much. Appreciate you giving it a go.
The x86 instruction set (operations implemented in the CPU) is insanely complex. Newer x86 designs simply added more and more operations while keeping all the old ones (for backwards compatibility)
This has one main advantage: x86 CPUs are remarkably compatible to REALLY old code (I think it's even possible to run some DOS applications natively on modern x86 CPUs).
But there is also a large drawback: There are a lot of duplicate and/or redundant instructions/operations that cannot be removed without breaking backwards compatibility for old programs. All these operations are implemented on the CPU with large transistor networks that constantly require some power, even when not in use.
ARM designs on the other hand are specifically designed for low power applications and use a very small and efficient instruction set (RISC). One the one hand that means that some operations that could be done on x86 in one single operation take multiple steps/operations to complete on ARM, but on the other hand the CPUs are much simpler, contain much less transistors and require much less power to run.
Add to that that at higher clockspeeds the differences between architectures begin to blur (at least for general computing, where you don't need complex operations all the time) and x86 has not that much of a speed advantage but quite a heavy power cost.
Phawx
Member
I thought getting knocked through the door was scripted? I've yet to play any dark souls yet.
