FBI reviewing emails found on devices used by Weiner/Abedin
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No, Comey actually literally said it wasn't even close, and that anybody reviewing the case would have come to the same conclusion he and his team did.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...i-director-clinton-emails-20160907-story.html
God damn. That was great.
So you trusted Comey then and you don't now?
Tim Kaine was even praising Comey a few days before new information dropped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gup1MClDlrM
Obama himself says that Comey isn't trying to interfere with an election. I will take Obama's word over yours. Do you think Obama is lying or is misleading people? If so...then please explain
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/31/p...ames-comey-clinton-emails/index.html?adkey=bn
Vincent Alexander
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So you admit what you claimed about Comey is completely wrong?
A Link to the Past
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You'll take Obama's word over the poster's, but you won't take Comey's word over yourself?
Lord Frieza
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Yeah, he still is.
Yep, and unsatisfied with that, he then went on to give his own two cents and put the screws to Hillary to placate his home team. The guy is a partisan hack and I don't give a shit what Obama says. He's expected to be diplomatic. I've got my own eyes and my own functioning brain, and everything that has transpired here points to a political power play or gross incompetence. Take your pick.
What's there to trust or not trust? Clinton never committed a crime, and nobody in the know ever suggested she did. Any statement contrary to that would obviously be wrong.
What the hell is this about trust? There is either evidence or there isn't. Full Stop.
This concept seems completely foreign to people that live in their "feels" fantasies.It also is completely orthogonal to making politically motivated statements regardless of evidence or not.
He broke procedure (which he himself admits) to make a statement about an ongoing investigation, regarding evidence that he has no idea whether it is pertinent or not, because said statements were made even before they had a warrant to investigate the emails.
This concept seems completely foreign to people that live in their "feels" fantasies.It also is completely orthogonal to making politically motivated statements regardless of evidence or not.
He broke procedure (which he himself admits) to make a statement about an ongoing investigation, regarding evidence that he has no idea whether it is pertinent or not, because said statements were made even before they had a warrant to investigate the emails.
This may blow your mind but, it is entirely possible that Comey made the correct legal call back then, and is now making the incorrect political call now. Your assumption is that his first call was political. Nope. He was just following the law, he found no criminal activity, says it wasn't even close.
TestOfTide
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You seem to not be able to grasp the fact that it's not simply Democrats who are saying that Comey's letter was a stupid move.
Comey was praised before because he didn't decide to waste time on an unwinnable charge (which is the way the FBI is supposed to work. Federal Prosecutors don't like spending time in court on cases they aren't confident they will win).
Now Comey is getting shit from BOTH SIDES because he sent a letter against the advice of literally everyone else in his department before he even had a warrant, all because he didn't want to piss off some conservative jackasses in congress.
No, Comey was then, and is now, a douchebag. I said so myself back then (July).
His "clearing" of Clinton has happened over 2 days back in July. Day1 was a scathing review, excoriating Clinton for lack of judgement, etc.
This was massively reported in the media, in no positive way for the most part.
Day2 gave details on the review, and it was then clear that Clinton did not break the law, that no evidence of hacking were found, that the few document labelled secret at the time found were labelled incorrectly by whomever had sent them to Clinton, etc.
So yeah, Comey did the right thing (the "not even close" was an internal memo though, I am not sure he ever said that in public), but he visibly tried to hit Clinton at the same time.
Same thing here. Under the "doing the right thing" cover, he is actually, in my opinion, doing a hit job on Clinton.
Now about President Obama's official stance, 2 things:
1- He nominated him. Even if he regrets it now, it's pointless
2- It would be rather unprecedented (Comey's comments being unprecedented themselves) for the President to crucify a FBI director he nominated himself, when under pretense of transparency. He would likely appear partisan and actually hurt Clinton (and himself) more than help.
Btw, you are the one who said
I merely proved you were wrong, but do keep going.
DontBeThatGuy
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I agree with this.
It's good for Clinton to learn this lesson nice and early.
You're reading this wrong.
I agree with Obama here, I don't think Comey is trying to influence this year's presidential vote.
However, his actions have the unintended consequence of starting a fire storm over what is essentially nothing. Comey wasn't trying to get Trump elected, he was trying to save his own ass from congressional questions if the information about a new bunch of e-mails was leaked before he could get ahead of it. In his haste, he was inarticulate and frankly inaccurate in his letter to congress.
Comey's not secretly plotting to tank Hillary, he just didn't predict the consequences. He should have... but he didn't.
DontBeThatGuy
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He absolutely knew how it was gonna wildly speculated about, misinterpreted. He can't feign ignorance here, he knows it.
What do you mean he didn't predict the consequences? In his internal letter to the bureau he predicted them quite well.
Then you have shit like this:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html
The Lamonster
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It's insane how much the media is misportraying this story even into today. They should've fixed the headlines FRIDAY NIGHT!
dragonfart28
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I think we are going to see a President Trump guys.
The timing on this release couldn't be more perfect for a temporary upswing that gives him the election.
Escape Goat
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Your analysis can't be beat. All hail President Trump.
Nah, he has no chance, and barely anyone cares about Clinton's emails unless they're already in the anti-Clinton crowd.
If I wasn't on mobile only today I would photoshop "why can't I hold all these limes" guy with a bunch of troll faces
"Why can't I ignore all these troll posts?!"
No way. She could even get arrested and she would still win.
No way she loses this election.
dragonfart28
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I know LA Times polls are bullshit and the electoral college is still in Hillary's favour but the aggregates are showing a huge spike and the gap is less than 3 points now.
The election is in a week and we are seeing Hillary's lead evaporate in days.
I don't want to be correct about this but the right forces are brewing at the right time for Trump.
Nah, the people have proven time and again that no one gives a shit about a non-existent e-mail scandal.
Unless they find pictures of Hillary murdering Vince Foster I think we'll still have a 7p Dem win.
Even with those pictures we'd probably get a 3 point Dem win.
maquiladora
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His path to victory is so narrow and unlikely that it's virtually impossible.
On topic :
@AP
BREAKING: Justice Dept. says it'll dedicate all needed resources to quickly review emails in Clinton case.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Trump will win popular and Clinton will win the electoral.
Thats great and all but doesn't the pace depend on he FBI?
I have more faith in the FBI under Comey than I do with the Justice Department under Lynch.
I smell another airplane meeting.
EatinOlives
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Lol if people think that Obama not blasting his own appointee in public somehow means that Comey's justified in doing this shit.
He even says it: The White House is not going to weigh in on this either way.
Because to put your finger on the scale in this manner (*coughwhatcomeydid*) would be idiotic.
He even says it: The White House is not going to weigh in on this either way.
Because to put your finger on the scale in this manner (*coughwhatcomeydid*) would be idiotic.
Oh thank goodness, I'll just stay home instead of voting then. Thanks for the reassurance.
This kind of stuff would fit Fanfiction.net better than here.
It's not likely, but the FBI might get taken off the case.
Shake Appeal
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"He's in a tough spot, and he's the one who will be in a position to defend his actions in the face of significant criticism" is as close as you're going to get to Earnest setting fire to a picture of Comey's face right there at the podium.
Yeah, they're basically cutting Comey loose right there.
I certainly wouldn't want my boss saying that about me.
RustyNails
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This is the gentlest way Obama threw Comey under the bus.
diablos991
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Under what scenario could the FBI be removed from the case? This is literally what they are supposed to investigate.
Carpe Libertatem
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I don't get why people act like our opinions of Comey need to stay the same no matter what happens.
Yes, and the director of the FBI screwed up, so the door is opened to giving it to someone else. Screwups do have consequences, and this one has a chance of being agency-wide.
maquiladora
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You're welcome.
diablos991
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So putting the Democratic appointed justice department leader who is a Democrat in charge of an investigation possibly implicating the next Democratic leader is what should be happening? Especially given the email leaks showing how unethical the Democratic establishment is?
Not to mention this Democratic justice department leader has already shown terrible judgement when she met with the next Democratic leader's husband on a place before the "don't prosecute" decision came out.
That doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
ryutaro's mama
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When the instrument that's supposed to do the job is incapable of performing, it's time to give it to someone who isn't. It's obvious that this kind of investigation is wholly beyond someone like Comey's ability to handle. Moreover, the political party of the people behind the government agencies shouldn't matter. But as the Republicans are proving to be incompetent, then putting Democrats in charge is the obvious answer.
This scandal doesn't have anything to do with Clinton - it's all about Comey and his screwup.
metalslimer
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Well it could say they hadn't even gotten a warrant to look at them so technically they weren't reviewing anything at the time this thread was made
I'm confused. Didn't Comey mention Clinton's emails?
Even Clinton reacted strongly:
"We are 11 days out from perhaps the most important national election of our lifetimes," Clinton said in a press conference in Des Moines, Iowa. "Voting is already underway in our country, so the American people deserve to get the full and complete facts immediately."
Clinton not even being in the subject line of this topic is simply silly.
It is incredibly frustrating to witness this over and over again. It gives everyone a chance to spread shit in forums, and the reasonable people flip the fuck out and get banned. Careful arguments with cited information is so much harder than just shitting on my keyboard with this weeks talking points.
"she's corrupt" but they wont ever tell you why or be specific or substantiate anything. The media tossed Donald Trump's headlines to the side for this. Fuck the nonsense that the media is in the tank for Hillary. The evidence is right in front of us.
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