diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
The complaint was filed in FL that I know of. I'm sure somebody is investigating and will press charges if there is enough evidence.
FBI reviewing emails found on devices used by Weiner/Abedin
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The complaint was filed in FL that I know of. I'm sure somebody is investigating and will press charges if there is enough evidence.
psrock
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There has been no evidence she losing this election yet. The polls are close, but Trump told me they were rigged anyway.
"Pardon?"
Amazing how tactical his responses actually are when you have context.
Please proceed.
Have you jumped back to Trumper territory after your stint as a Third Partier? You went back to hard defending for Trump after saying you went third party.
ShironRedshift
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If you're still freaking out over 538's model, stuff like this is why you shouldn't take those fluctuations that seriously and that they seem to be because Silver's doing a lot of stuff in his models that just doesn't make any sense at all and nobody understands which is adding a ton of variability into his model for no good reason:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=222383943&postcount=6894
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=222383959&postcount=6895
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=222384435&postcount=6898
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=222384735&postcount=6903
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=222385407&postcount=6912
Well that makes me feel better. Watching the 538 numbers plummet in the last few days has been a little scary.
CoffeeJanitor
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So does anyone care about this story anymore
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Looks like there isn't enough evidence to proceed.
I already voted third party but Trump is my second choice since he is far more likely to shake out the corruption than Clinton.
I am not following the whole e-mails case (i am not from the US). Is there a TLDR?
My main question is, why anyone cares?
From what i understand she used a private server for potentially clasified data. It's obviously a security risk, but is this the only concern?
In my country there were a few cases of high ranking officers having secret information on their personal laptops. They got fired, but it's not such a rare occurrence.
My main question is, why anyone cares?
From what i understand she used a private server for potentially clasified data. It's obviously a security risk, but is this the only concern?
In my country there were a few cases of high ranking officers having secret information on their personal laptops. They got fired, but it's not such a rare occurrence.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
The problem here is the USA takes this shit seriously if you aren't a Clinton. Many upstanding servicemembers have been fined, lost security clearance, or been imprisoned for carelessness with Classified. Clinton gets to run for president.
It's a largely manufactured scandal that's much ado about nothing. It was only a crime if Clinton had purposefully sent on classified emails from that server, and since that wasn't her goal in setting them up that way, she never did so.
Realistically, being lax with IT security is a very common occurrence; especially among higher level corporate and government leaders who never grew up with this technology. Yeah, they should do a better job of managing this technology, and yes there should be better policies in place, but this particular case isn't worth all of the ink wasted on it.
Lord Frieza
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I, too, enjoyed the stint when diablos pretended to be third party but is very obviously a Trump supporter who deliberately spread misinformation about Clinton in every thread he could. Those were good times, less transparent times.
BrutishMrFish
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Wrong. Nobody gave a shit when Bush and friends lost anywhere between 5 million and 22 million emails. The media gave it next to no attention, the Democrats whined but didn't dwell on it for long, and the Republicans were obviously fine with it.
Lord Frieza
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Here's an article by Silver himself that...somewhat explains his model and why it has such ridiculous variation, often times day to day. There's been a lot of criticism of the model he's using this election, and not just because it's showing Dems what they don't want to see, it';s deliberately set up in a way that causes extreme variation with the data he takes in.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...r-model-is-more-bullish-than-others-on-trump/
Samurai G0SU
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Trump bringing corruption to ..justice?... do you literally ignore what this man is and has been and will continue to be? Nvm i know my answer from post history in every political thread..
Wow i just cant even....
The idea that Trump is more likely to get rid of corruption in government is pretty hilarious when he himself skirts and/or breaks the law at seemingly every opportunity, and has throughout his campaign been surrounded by some of the worst people imaginable.
Oh yeah - a government with him at the head would totally be filled with highly qualified, honest and hardworking folk who fight for the vulnerable and defend all that is good and just.
Oh yeah - a government with him at the head would totally be filled with highly qualified, honest and hardworking folk who fight for the vulnerable and defend all that is good and just.
Nazgul_Hunter
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But intent is still needed, per Comey's testimony. There's no evidence that she thought there was classified material in the server.
I'd say his mask has come off but it's more like the mask was limply hanging off the lower half of his face before finally falling off.
Lord Frieza
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Yeah, pretty much. Either that or he's just a troll who is subtle enough to squeak by. But I'm going with thinly veiled Trump supporter, though. The rhetoric and conspiracy latent crap he pedals is pure Trump supporter. At least there's the bet he has that he can't ever talk about politics again if Hillary wins.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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lol. thanks for the laugh man.
It's funny how people think Trump is the anti-corruption when he is the embodiment of everything that has been wrong with this country since baby-boomers began voting.
Just admit that you are a trump supporters. Stop tip toeing.
Ollie Pooch
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That people are deluded enough to believe this is mind-boggling. Trump is the absolute shadiest, dodgiest, slimiest, most corrupt guy around and you think he'll root out corruption? Fucking LOL.
She has to intentionally give them access to classified. Which the FBI director testified that there is no evidence of that. I don't really see the case. It just seems like the far right is screaming for a crime that literally doesn't exist.
He's posted shit straight from the_donald.
TheLaughingStock
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Hillary gave paid speeches to wild firms like Goldman Sachs rather than one of Trump's ventures. I don't see how he'd be the shadiest. What he does hardly matters in comparison.
Samurai G0SU
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This thread continues to deliver. Oh my
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Oh no, she got paid to speak! While not holding any office.....oh no!
Mean while, trump just paid out $300k for to a contractor he did not pay, has a dozen women claiming they were sexually assaulted by him, has a statutory rape case pending against him, has a case pending regarding fraud and his university, didn't pay taxes for a decade +, walks in on nude teen beauty pageant contestants, etc etc etc etc.
but, yes, paid speeches!!!!
TheLaughingStock
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Fraud by Goldman Sachs is not only much larger than anything Donald Trump is alleged to have done (small time), but they've also committed financial support to his ventures.
Fisticuffs
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So sexual assault is considered "small time" to you? What do you think the punishment should be for someone who is found guilty of doing this? Just curious
perineumlick
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C'mon son....you can't be serious. What kind of fuckery is this?
TheLaughingStock
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Prison time. Just like Bill Cosby if found guilty.
Ollie Pooch
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What is your point, that Hillary is supporting Trump by proxy or something? I'm confused.
Claiming he will root out corruption is completely absurd. Deflect all you want to Hillary's speeches for your own reasons but Trump is dodgy, corrupt and lacking any basic decency. He's also a sexual predator and tax dodger.
It is remarkable how intellectually devious and vapid this view is. Trump is indisputably the single most corrupt candidate ever to be nominated by a major party for president in the past hundred years. I mean it's not even in the same galaxy. Even the most GENEROUS interpretation where I pretend for the sake of humouring your ridiculous viewpoint that every single scandal reported by major papers about Hillary is correct.
Let's say she intentionally destroyed e-mails, knew material was classified but mishandled it anyway, was dealing in pay to play for her Foundation and asked Donna Brazile for her questions in person... none of it, and I mean none of it, could compare to the sheer insanity and cloud of corruption facing Trump.
Here is a man who literally - with photo evidence - uses his charity as a front for his own personal gain, buying portraits of himself and fixing fountains and paying for his son's eagle scout membership fee. Paying off legal fees using charity money. A man who crashes charity events when not invited, donates nothing but still wants the photo op. Who has lied about virtually all his giving ever. Who pretended to give money to 9/11 charities and pretending to give money to Veteran's Charities, until reporters started looking into it. Then magically a donation!
Who bends the law beyond all recognition in his pursuit of using other people's money to avoid paying taxes. Who we actually do have hard evidence of destroying emails and evidence in direct violation of a court order.
Who refuses to sell or recuse himself from any of his 500 businesses despite the unprecedented conflict of interest were he to become president. A man whose disgustingly predatory and fraudulent University was meant to target the elderly and uninformed and disenfranchised to steal their money. Who has been accused of so much sexual assault no reasonable individual could argue he is innocent of them all.
Who faced one of the largest housing discrimination suits in the country at the time, with accounts such as this:
There was no argument he was guilty or not. He was. You can argue otherwise. You'll embarrass yourself the millionth time and reveal yourself as a racist as well if you try. Good luck refuting that.
There is no reference point for the level of corruption Donald Trump is mired in. We don't even need to touch his rampantly racist, misogynistic, bigoted and xenophobic views, though you're probably terrible for ignoring those as well. If your problem is actually corruption and you're not lying, you are the single most grotesquely intellectually dishonest individual ever to grace this forum for making him your second choice. And yes, shame is something you should feel for not looking inside yourself and figuring out how you can be so goddamned disappointing.
excelsiorlef
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Clinton voted to close tax breaks that allowed rich people to avoid paying their share.
Trump used them...
Clinton pays 30-35% in taxes... Trump pays zero and brags about it
Ollie Pooch
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Thank you. The cognitive dissonance is insane. None of these people can honestly say they give a damn about corruption or any moral stance they claim to have, or they'd be avoiding Trump like poison.
And blames Clinton for allowing him to do it.
TheLaughingStock
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My point is Goldman Sachs is one of the worst in the business and Donald Trump is just a real estate developer supported by wild firms like Goldman Sachs. If Donald was the most corrupt around then Hillary would go give paid speeches to a businessman like him rather than business men and women like them.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
You can't be serious. What? This doesn't actually make any sense. Why would Hillary give speeches to Donald Trump or people like him? Are you saying she chooses who she gives speeches to based on how corrupt they are? Weird.
Bobnob
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rich people? Like her doners?
excelsiorlef
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Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Is being rich a bad thing? Or only when it's not Donald Trump?
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QuantumZebra
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You do realize Clinton, Obama, etc.. all released their returns right
They didn't
Guys like Buffet and Gates, too
streetsahead123
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How do Trump supporters not realize that Successful Businessman is like the only career widely accepted to be more corrupt than Career Politician?
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