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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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vainglorious
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My favorite thing about this thread is people not realizing Vader's costume is an exact replica of how he looks in A New Hope.
And you guys call yourselves Star Wars fans??? Pshhh
And you guys call yourselves Star Wars fans??? Pshhh
panama chief
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Saw the movie. Fucking great. Went looking for anything k-2so related and ordered this: ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Saw the movie. Fucking great. Went looking for anything k-2so related and ordered this: ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I'm debating getting the Funko-pop.
Also, this Rey one is cute as fuck.
I personally fought it was fine.
He worked for them under a friendly consenting pretended at some point then there must've been some sort of disagreement and he fled into hiding. Then krennic finds him. Cue movie.
There was definitely enough for me to get a sense.
Personally he even felt some of the exposition in the hologram was a bit on the nose.
They've been having a hard time finding a clean transfer. Not sure if the closest you can get is the Silver Screen edition. Or some parts of the Despecialized ones.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Stop discriminating against British accents saying Ma'am. I got enough of this with the recent bond movies.
RadioactiveLobster
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Just saw it and it was everything I hoped it would be and more.
The Vader boarding scene was incredible.
The Vader boarding scene was incredible.
A hallmark of Star Wars is that back story is hinted at but as an audience we are more or less dripped into the middle of a story be it the actual story or characters. Did we need to know why Biggs joined the rebellion? why did Obi Wan fight in the clone wars? Why did Darth Vader kill Anakin?
No, I've seen A New Hope way more than any other SW film. The red lenses were overdone. You could see the guy's face behind them.
I can understand someone feeling the exposition was on the nose. Personally I think the Hologram was fine but it should have been a bit more emotional and had Galen breakdown talking about how originally he thought he was doing something good. A bit more emotion there fleshing out Galen as someone who has been for 10 years living a life doing something he hates. Would have been nice.
I'm not saying you should hate the movie, I still really like this and considering someone posted that K-2 has a Lego figure I might buy it. But It's a flawed movie with a lot of things that make me think "couldn't you have taken the little bit of effort to do this?" Enough of those happened that I can' say it's the most amazing Star Wars movie or the equal of Empire.
This though does bother me. When people think a movie doesn't need good characterization to be a good movie. You're basically telling me a movie doesn't need good to be a good movie.
In answer to your questions, none of those are important because Biggs isn't really a character, Obi-Wan fighting in the Clones Wars is already backstory, and Darth Vader killing Anakin is something we hope to learn.
Things like Bodhi's motivation is important because he's what basically starts everything in the movie. Things like why Chirrut and friend go with are important because they're around for more than half the movie and have a lot of scenes but we get nothing about them or why they're going.
This shit confused the fuck out of me in Luther, for a few years I actually thought it was a cultural thing to call a woman who is your superior 'mum'.
Saw the movie. Fucking great. Went looking for anything k-2so related and ordered this: ❤️❤️❤️❤️
On topic of of Star Wars Rebels and relevant to Rogue One. While we've had plenty of Star Destroyer legos I would love to have that Mon Cal ship from the Scarif battle in some shape.
Came back watching 10am show. I was literally exhausted after watching it (and having a big meal afterwards), I fell a sleep and just woke up.
Loved the movie. 1st part was okay. I can definitely see why others would mention that it doesn't work or what not... but after seeing the ending, it just felt a bit pointless to dig into each characters stories.
I do have an issue with K2 though. I loved the droid, but seeing that droid hitting, killing other human beings - it rather made me uncomfortable. Looks like Disney's droids have much higher sense of self id, such as chopper and K2. R2, of course was feisty one, but I don't remember R2 shooting a blaster to kill another human being.
Also loved every bit of cameos in the movie, as much as some were pointless - such as Mos Eisley duo, and R2/3PO scene - but seeing all of them, in bits and all, were still very nice and kept me aware for the duration of the film.
Darth Vader did sound a bit older, but still it's that commanding voice of JEJ, which I loved - I would not have any other way. Costume, I noticed that gap around the neck but didn't bother me too much either. Vader-castle seemed a bit overly done, but well, who knows what goes inside of Vader's mind, especially choosing to live in Mustafar, where he lost his limbs and wife! LOL.
But the final scene... Vader wrecking havoc, I literally wept with nerdgasm, and in the end of the movie during credit, I had to hide the fact that I had tears in my eyes for reasons that I do not know.
One thing I don't get though... is why Organa and Mon Mothma are looking for Obi-Wan's help though. Leia was in desperate situation when she reached out - not sure going to Tatooine was her original intention - I thought she was going to Alderan or Yavin after getting that plan, and was pursued by Vader, and had to evac at Tatooine - maybe she knew Obi-wan was at Tatooine from Organa? Was she supposed to "pick-up" Obi-wan after retreiving the plan from Rogue One on the way back? Seems like too much risk to take for one person.
From my point of view, Organa and Mon Mothma was looking for help to destroy the Death Star from Obi-Wan. Delivery of the plan, I thought, was Leia's part, and reaching out to Obi-Wan was to come 'after' delivering the plan to rebel base.... and the purpose of reaching out, somehow got missed...
Are you referring to the droids being harmful to humans being uncomfortable on a sort of "Asimov's laws of robotics" level?
Lest we forget the prequels were ALL ABOUT droids killing people. Trade federation, battle droids, etc
Regarding obi wan. That's just pure retcon. On its own in ANH, you have to assume that she stole the plans and since being pursued had to ditch them and obiwan was nearby. Or something.
Nah I'm just saying it was good enough for me.
Could've been fleshed out more, sure. It still passed a critical minimum for me though.
Sure he didn't say "Mon"?
It annoyed me and it made the deaths later at the end feel really meh but even I didn't hate the movie. Still a good movie, but it's just missed opportunities to be great. I was hoping for, like one person mentioned, a Dirty Dozen in Space, a ragtag group banding together for a common goal and bonding along the way while discovering courage in themselves only to heroically at the end make the Ultimate Sacrifice to complete the mission. I got...some of that I guess and it was enough to like it but it certainly didn't scratch that "itch".
He says Mon, not Mom.
StopMakingSense
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No, he said "Mum"
It's a britishism equivalent to "Ma'am." Used in addressing female superiors.
Saw the movie. Fucking great. Went looking for anything k-2so related and ordered this: ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I owned the Grievous of that line and he looked sad all alone so I bought K2 a few days before the movie. Came back from the cinema and built him right away. Now they both stand guard to the sides of my Lambda shuttle ^_^
Also, hopefully everyone's cries about "character background" will be heard and we get a Cirrut & Baze movie in 2020.
Uhm, the Leia Hologram in ANH specifically has her say "my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed". So no retcon there.
Just in case:
Give me Cirrut and Baze Buddy-Cop film. That and a movie about Darth Vader cutting up fools. Give me both of those Disney, I will see both in Theaters day one.
Serious? Mum is what those in Britain (as well as Australia) call their mothers instead of mom.
StopMakingSense
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Yes. Watch enough British TV procedurals and you hear it all the damn time. In the Craig Bond movies, for example, M is often referred to as "mum" (though probably captioned as ma'am if you were to look)
Back-In-Black
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Thought this was the best one since ESB. VIII has a lot to live up to, and VII's issues are more prominent now, mainly the editing and writing issues that felt like the movie was just trying to connect threads, whereas this one being a prequel actually managed to feel like it was its own fleshed out story.
The plot is thin, but it's Star Wars, what's great is that doesn't prevent it from being fun and having its emotional moments.
It went very fast, I still don't get how they got in that Imperial transport ship, but I don't care, I enjoyed it to and through and there's nothing I'd really cut out, unlike VII that could have benefited from some serious rewriting (Rancar scene, Maz Castle).
Still hope they never make that dumb Obi Wan movie. Vader's voice was a little disappointing, something was off. CG Cushing and Leia were not too disturbing, but still not quite right.
The plot is thin, but it's Star Wars, what's great is that doesn't prevent it from being fun and having its emotional moments.
It went very fast, I still don't get how they got in that Imperial transport ship, but I don't care, I enjoyed it to and through and there's nothing I'd really cut out, unlike VII that could have benefited from some serious rewriting (Rancar scene, Maz Castle).
Still hope they never make that dumb Obi Wan movie. Vader's voice was a little disappointing, something was off. CG Cushing and Leia were not too disturbing, but still not quite right.
I just saw this movie.
God damn that was amazing, possibly the best SW movie I have seen. So much pure action, felt like a real war one with real consequences.
Highlights for me were K2 Droid, who's sarcasm had me laughing all the way.. And Donnie Yens character (can't remember his name) he was so good to watch.
And Vader at the end. Holy shit.
God damn that was amazing, possibly the best SW movie I have seen. So much pure action, felt like a real war one with real consequences.
Highlights for me were K2 Droid, who's sarcasm had me laughing all the way.. And Donnie Yens character (can't remember his name) he was so good to watch.
And Vader at the end. Holy shit.
I've watched every episode of Rebels and Clone Wars, watched the OT countless times, PT a dozen times (eh it's alright), VII a dozen times as well and even read a bit of some books. Rogue One is fantastic. It adds a lot to the Rebel Alliance and fills some holes in ANH. It shows the alliance was strung together by thin lines that were breaking, how vast the empire's power was (literally having a planet with its sole purpose was to hold on to its archives), made the rebel initiative actually less rightteous with Saw's succession and Cassian's actions/received orders, demonstrates Vader's gigantic balls, and more. It's not a perfect movie from a production standpoint (first half editing), but it's great Star Wars.
Back-In-Black
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They stole it on Edou.
Razgriz-Specter
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I really just wish the soundtrack had half the oomph that the majority of his Lost soundtrack had,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsRfNjAz8XU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsRfNjAz8XU
Personally, I prefer the red eyed look to the all black one anyway.
Not that Vader looks any less ridiculous in either.
You know, their pretty decent movies and all, but I never understood why Star Wars became the iconic pinnacle of sci-fi cinema, worshiped from every facet. I think it's because I just grew up with all art that was already influenced by star wars, so I've seen everything they've done, done better, so when I finally did see Star Wars, everything they did came off as done over, if not cliche. I just have to believe I'd have had to have been there, in 1970, when it took the world by storm.
But stuff like seeing Vader as a threatening look is just one thing I'll never wrap my mind around. I mean, sure he's a strong badass, but he looks nothing short of silly, especially the helmet. How he became THE iconic villain in terms of visuals, I'll just never get.
It is a period of civil war.
Rebel spaceships, striking
from a hidden base, have won
their first victory against
the evil Galactic Empire.
During the battle, Rebel
spies managed to steal secret
plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the DEATH
STAR, an armored space
station with enough power
to destroy an entire planet.
Pursued by the Empire's
sinister agents, Princess
Leia races home aboard her
starship, custodian of the
stolen plans that can save her
people and restore
freedom to the galaxy....
movie moved too fast at certain times and too slow at others, it was rather disjointed - especially early going
but the aesthetic was absolutely nailed beyond perfection, movie felt more like star wars than the originals (somehow)
have a number of complaints with the characterization or lack there of - but overall i think its a solid flick
you gotta give it credit for somehow improving ANH via retcon, that kind of thing never happens - you usually come away feeling like the original product is cheapened from a venture like this (cough prequels cough) - but the fanservice on display here is thoughtful and well executed
no matter how cynical you may be you gotta love that vader boarding scene, cmon people - he was done justice there
but the aesthetic was absolutely nailed beyond perfection, movie felt more like star wars than the originals (somehow)
have a number of complaints with the characterization or lack there of - but overall i think its a solid flick
you gotta give it credit for somehow improving ANH via retcon, that kind of thing never happens - you usually come away feeling like the original product is cheapened from a venture like this (cough prequels cough) - but the fanservice on display here is thoughtful and well executed
no matter how cynical you may be you gotta love that vader boarding scene, cmon people - he was done justice there
Freewheelin'
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What the fuck are you talking about lmao
Razgriz-Specter
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The Admiral of the fleet was the one pushing to fight the entire time, Rogue One gave him reason enough to attack.
Back-In-Black
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Nah, saw the prequels first as a kid and later watched the OT and was fucking blown away. I suddenly realized why the prequels were just action-shlock, as I kid I loved AoTC because of all the Jedi's that show up at the end. But, after the OT I automatically knew that ESB was the greatest thing ever, the movie where nothing really happens and there is only one saber fight at the end. And, Vader still gives me goosebumps to this day. Dude just looks menacing as fuck.
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Yeah but they crashes, I blinked, and then were inside it.
Back-In-Black
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They crashed the ship they came in on, then Bodhi and Cassian stole the Imperial Cargo Ship off-screen while Jyn was trying to get to her dad.
you sure it's really "mum", and not simply the person having a thick british accent, thereby turning Ma'am into "muh'um", which in turn sounds like "mum" (just like "ma'am" sounds like 'mam')
according to some quick googling, whenever someone supposedly says "mum" in James Bond, the subtitles say "ma'am"
StopMakingSense
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Right. What I'm getting at is that what's they hear when they thought the guy said 'Mom' or 'Mon' - it was clearly the british pronunciation of ma'am, which sounds like 'mum'
Well, I did the same thing, actually. Prequels first, then the original trilogy, though I never liked any of the prequels except Revenge. They're decent films, especially empire, and I'll even say I like return of the Jedi more than many. But I just can't help but feel that everything they did, I've seen done better somewhere else. Which is probably due to those films, since their influence is so wide spread, but I can't help but view them as a product of their time.
New character, nothing known about him yet. Judging by his name (Vanee, with an accent over the second e) I wonder if he's from Naboo.
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