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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS

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Killer Queen said:
I think you should either go rewatch the original trilogy or give up this line of defense because you're not convincing anyone.
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I don't need to rewatch them, and I don't care if you're convinced or not. Many people have an issue with the line. Just because you don't, that doesn't mean it fits his character. The tone might fit, but the actual dialogue is corny as fuck and doesn't fit with the OT at all. It's more like something young Anakin would have said in the prequels, and it's also crowd-pleasing bait more than anything. It's about as bad as "Now that's what I'm talkin about!".
 
Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
Just saw the movie. Thought it was alright, until the last few minutes.

Then they screwed it all up. What a fucking stupid ending. What the fuck where they thinking? "Oh guyz, letz make this movie DIFFERENT, how about we kill ALL the main characters??? Oh god we are so fucking BRAVE and EDGY!!!1 Critics will love this film!!"

When I watch a Star Wars movie, I want the characters who are the heroes to win. Not fucking die. This film single-handedly destroyed any anticipation I had for any upcoming Star Wars movie. Why care for the spin-offs, when they will just kill off any characters, to "tell a complete story" that doesn't "interfere" with the main movies? And this also makes me wonder how much crap they will introduce to the main movies in order to create "drama". Congratulations to the writing team. You killed the magic behind Star Wars, and literally made me stop being a Star Wars fan. This is especially astonishing when you take a look at the MCU. Those writers could easily write a better Star Wars movie than this, without this edge lord crap. And they even work for the same company. I really regret paying money to see this movie, what a disappointment.
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I'm laughing heartily at this...
 
Bobby Roberts said:
The outside world: The socio-political undertones of Rogue One, the dramatic increase in minority representation, is the current national situation is causing increased emotional resonance in audiences, are Baze & Chirrut more than friends...

NeoGAF: Did Vader's pun make you shit yourself just a little bit, or did you void bowels into the back of your toughskins like a city bus ramming a fire hydrant
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Bet you're glad you came back right?
 
Bobby Roberts said:
The outside world: The socio-political undertones of Rogue One, the dramatic increase in minority representation, is the current national situation is causing increased emotional resonance in audiences, are Baze & Chirrut more than friends...

NeoGAF: Did Vader's pun make you shit yourself just a little bit, or did you void bowels into the back of your toughskins like a city bus ramming a fire hydrant
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You do highlight a lot of things I like about Rogue One, but there's just some many heavyhanded shit that I feel like it bogs down it from being a classic for me. It's definitely good but the flaws needed to be ironed out.
 
Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
Just saw the movie. Thought it was alright, until the last few minutes.

Then they screwed it all up. What a fucking stupid ending. What the fuck where they thinking? "Oh guyz, letz make this movie DIFFERENT, how about we kill ALL the main characters??? Oh god we are so fucking BRAVE and EDGY!!!1 Critics will love this film!!"

When I watch a Star Wars movie, I want the characters who are the heroes to win. Not fucking die. This film single-handedly destroyed any anticipation I had for any upcoming Star Wars movie. Why care for the spin-offs, when they will just kill off any characters, to "tell a complete story" that doesn't "interfere" with the main movies? And this also makes me wonder how much crap they will introduce to the main movies in order to create "drama". Congratulations to the writing team. You killed the magic behind Star Wars, and literally made me stop being a Star Wars fan. This is especially astonishing when you take a look at the MCU. Those writers could easily write a better Star Wars movie than this, without this edge lord crap. And they even work for the same company. I really regret paying money to see this movie, what a disappointment.
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This is my favorite post in this entire thread. 10/10
 
My problem with Vader's joke is that it's a pun. I don't think Vader ever engaged in word play in the OT. His humor was more context like Captain Piet becoming Admiral because his superior was just force choked to death. The line itself isn't funny, its cold and ruthless and the context and reactions make it funny. Similar to when Vader says to Lando "pray I do not alter it any further" and Lando reacts like he knows he made a bad deal. Its funny in a way because of how Vader treats Lando like he's nothing and Lando knows it. When a new script has Vader saying things he's never said before, its gonna stand out. Puns should go on a list with Padme of things Darth Vader should never say.
 
BronsonLee said:
You know, as I think about it, this is easily the most diverse cast in Star Wars history and basically Fast and Furious level tier

White lady
Hispanic guy
Two Asians
Whatever the hell Riz Ahmed is (potentially Canadian? idk)
A robot
A handicapped man with no limbs
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I'm in the movie guys. I did it.
Bobby Roberts said:
The outside world: The socio-political undertones of Rogue One, the dramatic increase in minority representation, is the current national situation is causing increased emotional resonance in audiences, are Baze & Chirrut more than friends...

NeoGAF: Did Vader's pun make you shit yourself just a little bit, or did you void bowels into the back of your toughskins like a city bus ramming a fire hydrant
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This is why I'm glad this website is the minority.
Debirudog said:
You do highlight a lot of things I like about Rogue One, but there's just some many heavyhanded shit that I feel like it bogs down it from being a classic for me.
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Like what?
 
3N16MA said:
BB-8 or K-2SO?

Need droid rankings.
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Little White Cuck Ball vs Giant Robot Comedic Relief / Killing Machine / Rapper / Actor

I like BB-8. He is a different character and harder to put up against the other. Their roles are very different. I'd say K-2SO was more crucial to the successes in the film.
 
Sanctuary said:
I don't need to rewatch them, and I don't care if you're convinced or not. Many people have an issue with the line. Just because you don't, that doesn't mean it fits his character. The tone might fit, but the actual dialogue is corny as fuck and doesn't fit with the OT at all. It's more like something young Anakin would have said in the prequels, and it's also crowd pleasing bait more than anything.
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And just because you do doesn't mean it doesn't fit his character.
You haven't made any kind of convincing comments and all you've really done is post thinly veiled condescension.

The OT is corny as fuck, the movies are cheesy, they were made in the 70s and 80s. Where have you been?
Maybe it's your nostalgia getting in the way, but this is entirely Vader.

You choosing to re draw the lines of what's considered a joke and what isn't doesn't change the reality.

You're 'many people' likely won't even consist of one percent of people who see the film so really, why even bring it up that many (meaning you and 10 other people on GAF) didn't like it?

watershed said:
My problem with Vader's joke is that it's a pun. I don't think Vader ever engaged in word play in the OT. His humor was more context like Captain Piet becoming Admiral because his superior was just force choked to death. The line itself isn't funny, its cold and ruthless and the context and reactions make it funny. Similar to when Vader says to Lando "pray I do not alter it any further" and Lando reacts like he knows he made a bad deal. Its funny in a way because of how Vader treats Lando like he's nothing and Lando knows it. When a new script has Vader saying things he's never said before, its gonna stand out. Puns should go on a list with Padme of things Darth Vader should never say.
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What part of "try not to choke on your aspirations" is funny outside of the fact that he's intimidating him and choking him? It's just as cold and ruthless as anything else he says. It's sick and twisted, and while you might not find humor in dark comedy, Vader (and others) do, which is the point.
 
Killer Queen said:
And just because you do doesn't mean it doesn't fit his character.
You haven't made any kind of convincing comments and all you've really done is post thinly veiled condescension.

The OT is corny as fuck, the movies are cheesy, they were made in the 70s and 80s. Where have you been?
Maybe it's your nostalgia getting in the way, but this is entirely Vader.

You choosing to re draw the lines of what's considered a joke and what isn't doesn't change the reality.

You're 'many people' likely won't even consist of one percent of people who see the film so really, why even bring it up that many (meaning you and 10 other people on GAF) didn't like it?
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Yo Vader is serious business man. Not cool.
 
wazoo said:
The guy is right. Han Solo would never die in a main SW episode. never.
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Don't know who the second main character is supposed to be, but it's pretty damn apparent that Han Solo won't be dying in the Han Solo origin story, or whatever it is.

Killer Queen said:
You choosing to re draw the lines of what's considered a joke and what isn't doesn't change the reality.
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Redraw the lines? Regardless, you've made it quite clear that you're easy to please, you found the line "funny", so therefore it fits.

Incidentally:

https://www.bustle.com/articles/199...wars-fans-wont-be-able-to-stop-thinking-about

Pay close attention to the very last sentence in #10
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Boy, that Trump-supporter boycott really put the pinch on the box-office this weekend, didn't it?
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I don't think anyone actually believed that Disney did reshoots just to put an anti-Trump speech in the middle of the movie.

Now that everyone knows the truth, it's probably going to hurt the movie's legs.
 
I have to say, if you told me one year ago that people would be endlessly bickering over whether Darth Vader's dad joke in the new movie was appropiate or not as opposed to the Rey/Mary Sue shitshow we had back then, I would be over the moon.

Definitely an improvement.
 
Toa TAK said:
Like what?
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The over reliance on the "an rebellion is built on HOPE" qoute kinda gets old and forced, I didn't like the forced cameos such as CGI Tarkin, I felt some scenes were wasted what with the memory alien (and yet the pilot came out fine eitherway), some scenes were a lot of talking and not showing. i do happen to like the characters but I felt a better part of the movie should be about developing Jyn and her past and how she became such a scrupulous theif. The Vader scene was pretty damn good but Leia's bit was tacked on and abruptly unnecessary.

There's something really cool here in Rogue One. I just want there to be more because they are definitely some strong moments here as well.
 
Gemüsepizza;226819923 said:
Just saw the movie. Thought it was alright, until the last few minutes.

Then they screwed it all up. What a fucking stupid ending. What the fuck where they thinking? "Oh guyz, letz make this movie DIFFERENT, how about we kill ALL the main characters??? Oh god we are so fucking BRAVE and EDGY!!!1 Critics will love this film!!"

When I watch a Star Wars movie, I want the characters who are the heroes to win. Not fucking die. This film single-handedly destroyed any anticipation I had for any upcoming Star Wars movie. Why care for the spin-offs, when they will just kill off any characters, to "tell a complete story" that doesn't "interfere" with the main movies? And this also makes me wonder how much crap they will introduce to the main movies in order to create "drama". Congratulations to the writing team. You killed the magic behind Star Wars, and literally made me stop being a Star Wars fan. This is especially astonishing when you take a look at the MCU. Those writers could easily write a better Star Wars movie than this, without this edge lord crap. And they even work for the same company. I really regret paying money to see this movie, what a disappointment.
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The fact that they killed all the main characters, makes me like it much much more. They all died to get the plans to the rebels to stop the empire. That is awesome.
 
Killer Queen said:
And just because you do doesn't mean it doesn't fit his character.
You haven't made any kind of convincing comments and all you've really done is post thinly veiled condescension.

The OT is corny as fuck, the movies are cheesy, they were made in the 70s and 80s. Where have you been?
Maybe it's your nostalgia getting in the way, but this is entirely Vader.

You choosing to re draw the lines of what's considered a joke and what isn't doesn't change the reality.

You're 'many people' likely won't even consist of one percent of people who see the film so really, why even bring it up that many (meaning you and 10 other people on GAF) didn't like it?
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I won't say that I consider it outside of what Vader would say. I think I just come down on the fact that it wasn't as clever in its delivery or conception as "apology accepted" or "no disintegrations." Maybe I should watch it again, but it's not the greatest zinger in the world which makes it come off as more goofy than ironically sinister.

Also, why are people always so sure that people on GAF are the minority? 99 our of 100 would say the line is great? Really?! Really annoys me how a dissenting opinion is played off as some wacky hyper-minority.
 
fritolay said:
The fact that they killed all the main characters, makes me like it much much more. They all died to get the plans to the rebels to stop the empire. That is awesome.
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Yeah i thought it was awesome. they are real heroes. They sacrificed everything to get those plans, so it adds real weight to the death Star,a nd subsequently the series of events in A New Hope.
 
Trigonometrize. said:
I won't say that I consider it outside of what Vader would say. I think I just come down on the fact that it wasn't as clever in its delivery or conception as "apology accepted" or "no disintegrations." Maybe I should watch it again, but it's not the greatest zinger in the world which makes it come off as more goofy than ironically sinister.

Also, why are people always so sure that people on GAF are the minority? 99 our of 100 would say the line is great? Really?!
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Most of gaf declared Nathan Drake a massmurderer.

Around 1% of the general population who played the Unchartef games would agree/say the same.
 
Sanctuary said:
Redraw the lines? Regardless, you've made it quite clear that you're easy to please, you found the line "funny", so therefore it fits.
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So back at it again with thinly veiled condescension?
Sorry that I actually enjoy films instead of nitpicking them and arguing with others about how big of a super fan I am and why it is that they need to go back and look over something while I don't because I'm right and they're wrong because reasons.

Get over yourself man, none of us are in middle school so stop acting like it.

Trigonometrize. said:
I won't say that I consider it outside of what Vader would say. I think I just come down on the fact that it wasn't as clever in its delivery or conception as "apology accepted" or "no disintegrations." Maybe I should watch it again, but it's not the greatest zinger in the world which makes it come off as more goofy than ironically sinister.

Also, why are people always so sure that people on GAF are the minority? 99 our of 100 would say the line is great? Really?! Really annoys me how a dissenting opinion is played off as some wacky hyper-minority.
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That's an entirely different argument though, and considering the size of GAF and the audience of this movie, GAF is most certainly and will always be the minority and considering that that side of this argument is already the minority you can assume that at the very least the vast majority won't care or will be indifferent.
 
Frankly, I'm appalled that you guys are more upset about Vader's one-liner than the fan film-tier title card. What the FUCK was that shit
 
Fewr said:
Droid rankings > Star Wars film rankings
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I'm sorry. Really.
 
Wanna see the film again because the more I'm thinking about it its going from a 7 to a 6 in my head. Need to confirm or deny.

Still better than half the series though.
 
On a second viewing, the only part that dragged for me a bit was Eadu before the Rebels show up. There's like a 10 minute (at least what seems like it) bit there of getting out of the crashed ship, climbing, etc, that just goes on.

The Blade Runner scene and the insurgent stuff made more sense and the jumping around was easier to follow.
 
fritolay said:
The fact that they killed all the main characters, makes me like it much much more. They all died to get the plans to the rebels to stop the empire. That is awesome.
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This. I honestly assumed most of the team would survive so Disney eventually could greenlight Rogue One 2 if it proved successful. The fate of the main cast was something that dramatically improved the movie for me.
 
GeeTeeCee said:
This. I honestly assumed most of the team would survive so Disney eventually could greenlight Rogue One 2 if it proved successful. The fate of the main cast was something that dramatically improved the movie for me.
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The problem with that is Rogue One 2 is A New Hope.
You're written into a box when you write a prequel film with new characters, because then people ask "Well, where the fuck were they during the OT?"
 
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