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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS

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One announcement would tell us what they have planned for 2020, past that seems getting pretty far ahead.

I believe Lucasfilm is set to start having meetings next month to plan the future of Star Wars which involves discussing new ideas for films. If things get settled before April it would be cool to get a celebration reveal in the form of what Marvel did with their Phase 3 announcement
 
I really hope Edwards was the one who pulled that off. INSANE.

My guess? He did. Remember, he's just as much of a fan as we are.
I'd watch a Star Wars movie just about Darth Vader slashing through Rebels ... just for that. Make Peter Jackson the director and we'll have 3,5 hours of pure carnage.
 
I find it so weird how some folks have liked this thing that has been a cultural icon for decades and then get mad that any of that stuff is referenced, played on, embraced or built on in any way. There's no real point in rejoining the franchise if you aren't going to do that. 'Fan service', 'fan film', etc have become the new eye roll worthy talking points that GAF drives into the ground with shallow critiques along with 'pretentious' and 'bad/lazy writing'.

Like using 'nostalgia' as a dirty word is weird enough, but doing it with friggin Star Wars seems particularly misguided.

I don't know if it's an age thing or what, but some folks seem to have a real hard time understanding that that stuff is part of the draw of a franchise like this. If you can't get down with an IV link, or finally seeing a devastating Vader, I'm not sure why Star Wars is something you're watching anyway.
That's right. When a series has a rich mythology that's soaked into popular culture, there's no way it can build additional branches without referencing itself.

Name any popular series that regularly spawns totally distinct extensions that might as well belong to an all new series. It can't be done, because that's an absurd expectation.

Also: complaining about references and crowd pleasing moments in a direct prequel to a mainline Star Wars film? Please. If that's how irrational you've become, it's time to find a different hobby.

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Everything I ever wanted.
 
Oh sure like these guys CAN'T be any more evil looking.

Lmao When they showed Vader's base I was like "Well, that's evil".

Can't believe the ending had mixed reception (the vader scene). I thought that was incredibly tense, as someone that has lightly, lightly followed the movies. It completely makes sense in the context of the film.

When Leia said "Hope" though, I must say that I, without thinking, accidentally said "Oh my god" out loud. How groan-worthy that was, lol.
 
Lmao When they showed Vader's base I was like "Well, that's evil".

Can't believe the ending had mixed reception (the vader scene). I thought that was incredibly tense, as someone that has lightly, lightly followed the movies. It completely makes sense in the context of the film.

When Leia said "Hope" though, I must say that I, without thinking, accidentally said "Oh my god" out loud. How groan-worthy that was, lol.

I don't think the Vader scene is that mixed. Some just pointing out it was pure fan service. The movie being mixed on the other hand...but to be fair most seems positive about RO. I just thought it was boring and only care to see clips of Vader wrecking fools again.
 
You really want more of this shit? O_O

https://youtu.be/8hy-IT4zbPg?t=41s
https://youtu.be/MT86esmL138?t=57s
https://youtu.be/MT86esmL138?t=3m23s

That style of acting (or whatever that is) is completely out of place in the new movies.

I swear Star Wars fans are crazy lol.

First, you cherry picked the worst lines from the movies and second, Ewan still managed to deliver a decent performance with even the worst dialogue. In every other scene he exceeds at the role.

So if by "you really want more of this shit" you mean an actor who can pierce through incompetent writing and deliver an awesome character, then yes.

What's wrong with you?

This film has put me right off Star Wars.

Was raised on it. Have always been obsessed with the brilliance of 4-6. The strange/ lazy/ pulpy/ unintentionally funny/ creative/ oddness of 1-3. But now Star Wars is just a grotesque exercise in broad crowd pleasing. It's embarrassing to watch and now the films are actually making the originals worse by inventing unnecessary and unconvincing fiction in the original films wake.

Let me get this straight: Now that Star Wars is on a yearly cycle and seems to be appealing to a larger audience, it's suddenly grotesque? I don't see anything inherently embarrassing about appreciating the two most recent films. They were great and fun to watch.

Be careful to not cut yourself on the edge of your bed when you sleep.
 
After thinking about the film over the last couple of days, I would probably now give it 3/5 stars. Its in no way a bad film, in fact it has some wonderful moments, but once you start thinking what works and what doesn't, it begins to lose some of its lustre, and for me it quickly became apparent, that my initial reaction was riding off of the high of that Vader scene.

Here is what I originally wrote. Basically I felt most of the problems stem from the writing. Characters and their motivations are far too underdeveloped, so when they are killed off, their deaths have little weight to them. I also didn't like how the movie ended (further explained here and here).

However, in addition I also realised the movie doesn't bring many new things with it. Look at the past movies and how they expanded on previous instalments.

Empire - Bespin, Hoth, AT-ATs, Lando, Dagobah, Yoda, and so on.
Jedi - AT-STs, Emperor, Jabba (and his palace), Speeder bikes, Endor, and so on.
Prequels for all their faults, had a huge swath of new characters, places, vehicles, aliens etc.
The Force Awakens, whilst often considered a bit of a retread, still gave us the first order, a bunch of new characters we were invested in, starkiller base, etc.

I feel there wasn't a great deal of cool new things in Rogue One. Though I quite liked seeing Vader's castle and Scarif.

Something I noticed, and I imagine it is the same for a lot of others, was that my favourite scene was Vader at the end, and it its a bit of an issue when you realise he is only tangentially involved in the plot.

Anyway, I am planning on seeing it again at some point, so after a second viewing I might find some of the issues I found are not so much of a problem.
 
There were quite a few new things. Off the top of my head: Death Troopers, Shoretroopers, Hovertank Troopers, Tie Strikers, the U-Wing, Scarif, the Ring of Kafrene, Jedha, Vader's castle, AT-ACT (OK, that one's cheating) and the first live-action Hammerhead. Lah'Mu was cool as well. Eadu reminded me of Kamino minus the sea with all that rain.

There felt like a good mix of the familiar (Yavin, Death Star) with the new.
 
Wait I leave for a day and people are saying Ewan is a bad actor and bad in the prequels?

:/

Starting to wonder if the majority of people posting in this thread even enjoy SW at all. I'm a pretty vocal prequel hater for the most part but it's pretty goddamn clear he was one of the only good things that happened to those films.
 
There were quite a few new things. Off the top of my head: Death Troopers, Shoretroopers, Hovertank Troopers, Tie Strikers, the U-Wing, Scarif, the Ring of Kafrene, Jedha, Vader's castle, AT-ACT (OK, that one's cheating) and the first live-action Hammerhead. Lah'Mu was cool as well. Eadu reminded me of Kamino minus the sea with all that rain.

There felt like a good mix of the familiar (Yavin, Death Star) with the new.

I wish they did more with some of them though. The scene with the Hammerhead and the Hovertanks were really cool, but I felt many of the other things might as well have been purely cosmetic. Deathtroopers and Shoretroopers didn't do anything particularly different from regular Stormtroopers (at least from what I can remember), though they did look cool.
 
Why would people clap for that? Shit looks like a scene straight out of a horror film. My audience didnt clap for that scene, they did after the film was finished tho.
My audience cheered because holy hell was that scene cool. I laughed when Vader used the Force to lift the guy to the ceiling then cut him down. Shit was great.

Also, folks need to get ovee themselves. You don't like that a franchise spanning from the 70s has a built mythology it can and will reference if it makes sense(with some egregious examples here and there)? Then bye. Star Wars obviously ain't for you
 
There were quite a few new things. Off the top of my head: Death Troopers, Shoretroopers, Hovertank Troopers, Tie Strikers, the U-Wing, Scarif, the Ring of Kafrene, Jedha, Vader's castle, AT-ACT (OK, that one's cheating) and the first live-action Hammerhead. Lah'Mu was cool as well. Eadu reminded me of Kamino minus the sea with all that rain.

There felt like a good mix of the familiar (Yavin, Death Star) with the new.
I would say this is one of the areas R1 improved upon in comparison to TFA. World building was much better. The scope of the universe was surprisingly improved.
 
Also I'd like to say that I've never been more annoyed watching a movie in theaters than I was with this one. There were at least 20-25 occasions in which people clapped for at least 5 seconds. It ramped up once as the movie progressed, so much so that people were clapping at both Jyn and Cassian making the jump on the hard drive tower.

You annoying asses. I was completely sympathetic to being excited and clapping in the beginning and during one or two callbacks in the movie, but holy shit contain yourselves.
 
Wait I leave for a day and people are saying Ewan is a bad actor and bad in the prequels?

.

Yeah, surprised at that myself. Ewan's Obi-wan is something I rarely see criticized in any of these debates. I suppose McDiarmid's Palpatine performance is next up.
 
Is clapping in the movie theaters a common thing in the US? Here in México I don't recall a single time I've heard people clapping during a movie, and certainly no one did during Rogue One.

People laughed at the robot's jokes, though, but that was pretty much it.

Yeah, surprised at that myself. Ewan's Obi-wan is something I rarely see criticized in any of these debates. I suppose McDiarmid's Palpatine performance is next up.

Oh, oh! Do I get to post the usual "goofy Emperor face" picture that everyone loves to post? :p
 
Is clapping in the movie theaters a common thing in the US? Here in México I don't recall a single time I've heard people clapping during a movie, and certainly no one did during Rogue One.

People laughed at the robot's jokes, though, but that was pretty much it.



Oh, oh! Do I get to post the usual "goofy Emperor face" picture that everyone loves to post? :p

It seems more of a US thing than anywhere else. In the UK I remember people clapping after Harry Potter when the first couple of films came out but otherwise it's quite reserved, although people clapped after Rogue One.
 
How is Cassian a better character than Han Solo?

Personally, I find a character whose family was murdered by the Empire, joins the Rebellion in response, does a bunch of shady shit for them, gets tired of it, goes on a suicidal mission, in part, because he's tired of living in that grey area and wants to do something right, to be more compelling than A New Hope's 'thief with a heart of gold.'

But that's just me.
 
I wish they did more with some of them though. The scene with the Hammerhead and the Hovertanks were really cool, but I felt many of the other things might as well have been purely cosmetic. Deathtroopers and Shoretroopers didn't do anything particularly different from regular Stormtroopers (at least from what I can remember), though they did look cool.

That's almost everything in Star Wars. Tie Interceptors are in ROTJ, but nothing that shows them as unique or special, but they are just window dressing. Boba Fett has about as much screen time as these new troopers really, and hes one of the most beloved characters.
 
That's almost everything in Star Wars. Tie Interceptors are in ROTJ, but nothing that shows them as unique or special, but they are just window dressing. Boba Fett has about as much screen time as these new troopers really, and hes one of the most beloved characters.

I love seeing all the different types of vehicles and troopers.
 
Personally, I find a character whose family was murdered by the Empire, joins the Rebellion in response, does a bunch of shady shit for them, gets tired of it, goes on a suicidal mission, in part, because he's tired of living in that grey area and wants to do something right, to be more compelling than A New Hope's 'thief with a heart of gold.'

But that's just me.

Lieutenant Han Solo was on track to become an Imperial Officer along the lines of Veers or Piett until he liberated the Wookiee he saw a fellow officer attempting to enslave.

Surely it is more compelling to abandon the winning side because of its immorality and risk your chances in open space?
 
Lieutenant Han Solo was on track to become an Imperial Officer along the lines of Veers or Piett until he liberated the Wookiee he saw a fellow officer attempting to enslave.

Surely it is more compelling to abandon the winning side because of its immorality and risk your chances in open space?
Uuuuh... is that still canon?
 
Personally, I find a character whose family was murdered by the Empire, joins the Rebellion in response, does a bunch of shady shit for them, gets tired of it, goes on a suicidal mission, in part, because he's tired of living in that grey area and wants to do something right, to be more compelling than A New Hope's 'thief with a heart of gold.'

But that's just me.

Yes, but what about the scoundrel of a smuggler who picks up an old man and a plucky kid as passengers and finds their cause and their mythology shake his world view? Later, he falls for a feisty princess who inspires him to be a better man, to believe in a cause, and to become a famous war hero.

It's all in the presentation, right?
 
Lieutenant Han Solo was on track to become an Imperial Officer along the lines of Veers or Piett until he liberated the Wookiee he saw a fellow officer attempting to enslave.

Surely it is more compelling to abandon the winning side because of its immorality and risk your chances in open space?

1) Wookipeida doesn't mention that stuff and 2) isn't it non-cannon now anyway?
 
Lieutenant Han Solo was on track to become an Imperial Officer along the lines of Veers or Piett until he liberated the Wookiee he saw a fellow officer attempting to enslave.

Surely it is more compelling to abandon the winning side because of its immorality and risk your chances in open space?

lul

c'mon man

There are plenty of arguments for Han Solo, but citing EU schmaltz in an argument about movies isn't one of them.
 
Lieutenant Han Solo was on track to become an Imperial Officer along the lines of Veers or Piett until he liberated the Wookiee he saw a fellow officer attempting to enslave.

Surely it is more compelling to abandon the winning side because of its immorality and risk your chances in open space?

This is never mentioned in the film, nor hinted at. C'mon now.
 
Personally, I find a character whose family was murdered by the Empire, joins the Rebellion in response, does a bunch of shady shit for them, gets tired of it, goes on a suicidal mission, in part, because he's tired of living in that grey area and wants to do something right, to be more compelling than A New Hope's 'thief with a heart of gold.'

But that's just me.
There's a huge difference between the way something looks on paper and the actor's performance in the film itself.

And Han's little finger is more compelling than Cassian's entire being, on screen. Dude did a great job with what he was given in R1 but he's a cardboard cutout next to Ford's performance/charisma in ANH.
 
Lieutenant Han Solo was on track to become an Imperial Officer along the lines of Veers or Piett until he liberated the Wookiee he saw a fellow officer attempting to enslave.

Surely it is more compelling to abandon the winning side because of its immorality and risk your chances in open space?
Sounds like something I'd write in high school
 
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