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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS

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Pineapple said:
I'm not sure if this has already been posted in this thread, or if it would warrant a new thread, but Gareth Edwards initially had everyone in the film living after the final battle, because he assumed that Disney wouldn't allow him to kill off everyone.

Disney then gave him the go ahead to do what he wanted with the film, so they then redid the entire ending.

Really interesting.









http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/20/14022380/rogue-one-ending-original-different-gareth-edwards
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Wow. How often does something like this ever happen?

I think the only other time I can think of was Joss Whedon killing off Quicksilver, but having filmed him being totally okay at the end just in case Disney/Marvel wouldn't allow it.


Anyway, they made the right call. Rogue One's ending stands out a helluva lot more by having the balls to do this.
 
Jeffrey said:
wonder if they will ever do a star wars spinoff film that actually bridges the gap between the 2 trilogies.

It's annoying as hell that lucas did 3 whole movies dedicated to the 'rise of anakin' and yet where we left off in eps3 and where we end up in Rogue 1/eps 4 is basically a completely different person in terms of mannerisms and temperment.
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Well, R1 does do some of that.

- Darth's Lair on Mustafar, the place where he lost everything in ep3, he's deeply connected to that place.
- Darth tearing up everyone with some of his fight style as Anakin (which has pointed out numerous times)
- Using Senetor Organa from Ep3 to handover Leia to the OT

The PT portrayal of Anakin is one of a human, trained by Obi Wan. In the OT he's more machine that transitioned over 20 years (where PT leaves us with Darth), jaded by the old ways, filled with anger and has Sidious training him in the ways of the Sith, I can see why when OT begins he's completely different. His only real purpose now is to fulfill his belief in control of the galaxy under the republic/empire, which would eventually mean him replacing Sidious.
 
sphagnum said:
Why would Boba Fett be breaking the fourth wall?

What I'd like to see, as I mentioned vefore, would be an old Boba post-RotJ on his last assignment so that we could get Temuera Morrison back. He could pass the baton on to another younger bounty hunter. He had a daughter in Legends.
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He breaks the fourth wall in the redoes of A New Hope.

BronsonLee said:
I think Jyn's a lock (it was her idea) and MAYBE Cassian (since he probably asked around for people to volunteer)

I don't think they'd know Bodhi since he just gave callsigns, never his name

No fucking way they know Baze & Chirrut



POOP POOP ON THE FLOOR
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Hmm that's true. He gives the call sign but they don't actually know who he is. Then again e was probably briefed and debriefed. Not to mention, if I recall he's the one that patches communication with the admiral to prepare them to receive the data plans. They got to keep a recording of that and figure out who it was later.

But yeah, Baze and Chirrut are out of luck.
 
Jito said:
For real? You had no problems with the opening of the film and first few acts? The cheese level of some of the dialogue "Rebellions are built on hope!" ? Actors like Forest and Mads being completely wasted and having little to do in the film at all?
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Pretty sure Cassian said it sarcastically the first time, then Jyn threw the line back at the rebel fighters the second time.
 
RadioActiveLobster said:
It opens with him flying at the side of Jabba's Barge and just as he hits you get the record scratch and the voice over.

"Yeah, that's me. I guess you're probably wondering how I ended up here..." and then it flashes back to young Boba Fett.
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Alcoremortis said:
Boba Fett falls into the Sarlacc pit.

*record scratch freeze frame*

Voice over: "Soooooo, yeah. I bet right now you're probably wondering how I got here, huh?"
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...wait a sec
 
Apologies if this has already been posted, but Dave Filoni's confirmed the Syndulla in Rogue One is Hera. There's more:

The Ghost is also visible in the upper left corner of this shot [see the image at the top of this article], on a landing pad at the temple base on Yavin 4. Filoni says fans of the show may someday see Rogue One’s action retold from his characters’ perspective on a future season of Rebels. “I already have some theories about the story behind it,” Filoni says. “I can imagine doing that entire [Scarif] battle from their point of view, whoever is on the Ghost at that point.”

Hera Syndulla is the green-skinned alien Twi’lek who pilots the Ghost starship, and although she doesn’t appear on screen in Rogue One, a “General Syndulla” is summoned to the briefing room over the intercom at the Yavin 4 base. Filoni credits sound designer Matt Wood, who also voices the character General Grievous, for that reference. We don’t see Hera, but we know she’s there. Although some fans are debating about that. We have the answer…

The “General Syndulla” reference has created debate among Rebels fans, since Hera’s father, Cham Syndulla, is already a resistance general on the show – and she’s not. It turns out, this a tease of things to come on Rebels. “I can clarify that’s absolutely Hera being paged, not her dad,” Filoni says. “The movie gives that away, but I would rather have all the [references] be right. Hera will eventually become a general in the Rebel Alliance.” But how? That storyline will remain a mystery for now.
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http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/12/clarification-on-the-star-wars-rebels-easter-egg-in-rogue-one.html
 
Pineapple said:
I'm not sure if this has already been posted in this thread, or if it would warrant a new thread, but Gareth Edwards initially had everyone in the film living after the final battle, because he assumed that Disney wouldn't allow him to kill off everyone.

Disney then gave him the go ahead to do what he wanted with the film, so they then redid the entire ending.

Really interesting.









http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/20/14022380/rogue-one-ending-original-different-gareth-edwards
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So everyone saying disney has no control over star wars was wrong?
 
Alcoremortis said:
Boba Fett falls into the Sarlacc pit.

*record scratch freeze frame*

Voice over: "Soooooo, yeah. I bet right now you're probably wondering how I got here, huh?"
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That's so perfect. Disney are dumb for not doing this. This is how you don't make Star Wars a tired brand for Fans Only.

Hollywood sucks:(
 
duckroll said:
Taking Boba Fett as a dark edgy character seriously is a huge mistake lol.
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Boba Fett is like one of those one-off Buffy villains, who talk a big talk, threatening everyone with merely their presence in the room. But then just before a cut to credits, they are killed in a completely humiliating anti-climactic way for a gag, with the whole joke relying on how tough you thought they were going to be.

...Actually, no, that is Boba Fett. Except I don't know that the joke was intentional.
 
So would Bail Organa have been cool with Admiral Raddus just dragging his daughter right into the middle of a possibly suicidal battle?
 
BronsonLee said:
Boba Fett's movie should start with him getting killed
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Laurence Kasdan's original idea for a Boba Fett film was similar. At the very beginning Fett is tailing someone who kills him and then takes his armour - you never see their face, don't know who they are or why Fett was tracking them.
Kasdan wanted him to be more like the Eastwood "man with no name" character. He wanted to put some mystery back after the prequels ruined everything.

I'd pay to see it.
 
DarthWoo said:
So would Bail Organa have been cool with Admiral Raddus just dragging his daughter right into the middle of a possibly suicidal battle?
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Considering the very act of joining the Rebellion meant a death sentence for himself and likely his entire family, whether or not they were complicit, if the Empire ever found out? I'd say he accepted that possibility and I'm sure Leia did too.
 
So I watched it today and I was wondering for half the movie who was "the bothans"... haha silly me, I forgot there were two Death Stars, so when do we get a movie about the bothans, I want to see them die too.
 
Vader killing them fools.
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The last 45 minutes satisfied me but that Vader scene made this movie for me, love it.
 
Dantooine said:
Laurence Kasdan's original idea for a Boba Fett film was similar. At the very beginning Fett is tailing someone who kills him and then takes his armour - you never see their face, don't know who they are or why Fett was tracking them.
Kasdan wanted him to be more like the Eastwood "man with no name" character. He wanted to put some mystery back after the prequels ruined everything.

I'd pay to see it.
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That sucks and just comes off as something OT purist fanboys would want.
 
leia was fairly active as a rebel though, from supplying the rebellion with Hammerheads to of course, agreeing to bail's mission to find Obi-Wan
 
Lautaro said:
So I watched it today and I was wondering for half the movie who was "the bothans"... haha silly me, I forgot there were two Death Stars, so when do we get a movie about the bothans, I want to see them die too.
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That's gonna be made into a CG animated film with the help of Pixar. Bothans are like lions iirc.
 
From what I understand the novelization clarifies that the Tantive IV was docked inside the Profundity undergoing repairs so Leia just sort of got strung along into the battle.
 
So why is it that in ANH Vader and co. don't just blow up the rebel ship? What's the point in getting the plans? It's the only copy?
 
Ether_Snake said:
So why is it that in ANH Vader and co. don't just blow up the rebel ship? What's the point in getting the plans? It's the only copy?
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the plans were transmitted to the ship and saved on a disk. no backups to the Tantive IV were made

the original plans were destroyed with Scariff.

*EDIT* okay, i reread that. yeah, just listen to Trigonometrize.
 
Ether_Snake said:
So why is it that in ANH Vader and co. don't just blow up the rebel ship? What's the point in getting the plans? It's the only copy?
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They need to find the plans but also find the hidden rebel base. Vader can't just indiscriminately blow everything up if those two things are both kind of up in the air.
 
Well there goes my theory on Rey's mother. Expected Jyn to get off the planet and Luke to include a throw away line about how Rey's mother got the plans and Luke destroyed the death star the beginning of some connection in the force or something.

I don't know. It would be like poetry. It would rhyme.
 
I was going to write a detailed review of what I liked and disliked, but midway through I realized all I was trying to convey was my obsession with Vader's design in this, and love for K2.

I can't get over how impacting I found Vader's hallway scene to be. The prequels left me with an overwhelming feeling that the Jedi just aren't important because there are so many of them. THIS film however, brought a whole new meaning to that. As a viewer, what I personally took away from this more than anything else, was how insignificant the struggles and problems of the rebels vs. empire are next to force users.

So many long drawn out scenes of people shooting at each other, and Vader shows up just to dance through the room dicing everyone up. It has been a LONG time since a Star Wars movie had me holding my breath to a gasp the way that did.

For all the shit I hate in this, it made Jedi feel unique and rare again. They are just on a completely different plane of significance in comparison to the petty problems the other characters face.
 
Horse Detective said:
I was going to write a detailed review of what I liked and disliked, but midway through I realized all I was trying to convey was my obsession with Vader's design in this, and love for K2.

I can't get over how impacting I found Vader's hallway scene to be. The prequels left me with an overwhelming feeling that the Jedi just aren't important because there are so many of them. THIS film however, brought a whole new meaning to that. As a viewer, what I personally took away from this more than anything else, was how insignificant the struggles and problems of the rebels vs. empire are next to force users.

So many long drawn out scenes of people shooting at each other, and Vader shows up just to dance through the room dicing everyone up. It has been a LONG time since a Star Wars movie had me holding my breath to a gasp the way that did.

For all the shit I hate in this, it made Jedi feel unique and rare again. They are just on a completely different plane of significance in comparison to the petty problems the other characters face.
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It really helps that there were no lightsabers or jedi prior to that scene so we were seeing the galaxy and the fighting and flying from a non-force user perspective...and then Vader shows up.

It also helps that the directing and choreography are grounded and competent. Even Lucas could have ruined that scene if he was directing it. Thank god there were no cg flipping stuntmen all over this movie.
 
Theslammer said:
Eh, I thought Krennic more than held his own. And the way they wrapped it up was great considering Tarkin taking over his work and killing him in the blast explains why he's never mentioned in the OT.

Yeah, he can't be mentioned because he wasn't thought of at the time, but the movie created a story that perfectly explained why.

No, it's not even close. There's nothing convenient about how it wrapped up as it ends shortly before Episode 4 begins. However, Episode 3 starting to throw stuff that looks like the OT at the end, 20 years before the OT starts, is what's convenient. Leia didn't take the plans and sit on them for 18 years; it's a completely different scenario.

Plus, it actually enhances Episode 4 as Vader is noticeably more pissed at the beginning of ANH than at most points of any of the OT ("COMMANDER, TEAR THIS SHIP APART UNTIL YOU'VE FOUND THOSE PLANS!"). It's a louder, less contained version of himself, whereas later in the film and especially in 5, he's more of a calm badass who internalizes the anger more, at least verbally (obviously, he isn't above force choking someone to death). Watching Leia's ship slip away at the last second after annihilating the rebels on the ship is a very cool way of showing why he was audibly more irritated.
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Yeah.
Also, that look on his face when he knows he's about to get nailed by his own weapon.
I also caught his bit of a smile when Vader let him go.

Pandy said:
If anything, it felt like the fullfillment of a promise made in ANH.
They simply didn't have the SFX to show off Vader in the ANH as they did in R1, but for him to have the galactic reputation he does, it's kinda heavily implied he's still a bit more than just a middle manager.
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This. Him easily plowing through that ship further shows why by ANH everyone is fucking terrified of him, including most of the empire officers that have to actually interact with him.

Ezalc said:
Vader ripping those rebels a new asshole was so fucking good to watch though I do lament the lack of him killing anybody in the main cast.
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That was fantastic. In the heat of the moment you almost forget that ofcourse the plans obviously get through that door.

PalaceBrother said:
I think they did themselves a disservice by so heavily featuring human CGI characters - I'm surprised they did it as they surely must know that shit ages terribly. Had they just shown Moff from behind I'd have totally bought it....and that "hope" line at the end. Brutal.
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I actually thought they did a rather good job. I agree the Leia and hope line was just "ok," but I thought Tarkin looked unexpectedly great and they even used him quite a bit.

Speevy said:
I'd like to see a conversation between Whitaker's character in this and Eddie Redmayne's in Juipiter Ascending.
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LOL

Atleast we got the awesome, fun droid in exchange.
 
watershed said:
It really helps that there were no lightsabers or jedi prior to that scene so we were seeing the galaxy and the fighting and flying from a non-force user perspective...and then Vader shows up.

It also helps that the directing and choreography are grounded and competent. Even Lucas could have ruined that scene if he was directing it. Thank god there were no cg flipping stuntmen all over this movie.
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Man that's just the thing with this.

There is so much I dislike about this movie. But having so much time to focus on these smaller characters, then show how Vader interacts with them? Incredible, absolutely masterful.

The whole concept of Jedi has been made so boring and dime a dozen, but this movie actually brings to scale what they are capable of next to these foot soldier esque characters.
 
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