Bitch Pudding
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Was a rant, but not an angry one, he's laughin (at MS) most of the time, unlike that special one back then in the day...
Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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Was a rant, but not an angry one, he's laughin (at MS) most of the time, unlike that special one back then in the day...
Jaguar Victory
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PS3 was also the cheapest Blu-Ray player for a good bit. Once that format situation settled with HD-DVD that was a big boost.
PS3 was a good console once the price regulated, just like the XBOX One.
To be fair, they did go full retarded when the reveal the xbox.
What games are MS going to use to push the Scorpio? Seems they'll have to buy the rights to some 3p game and soup it up in time for launch. Expecting devs to flock to the machine just because it's powerful seems very risky considering the difference in install base of Xbox and PS this gen. Why would a dev realistically prioritize the Scorpio? It's a shame because you'd think the Scorpio would have the capability to do Scalebound the right way.
Forza 7 I guess. I don't see Crackdown releasing this year.
inpHilltr8r
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Two generations prior. SMS was set up during PS1 era. When MS were still backing Sega.
onemanasylum
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The demand for ps1 titles is probably not worth the effort, how many people will actually play them to make it worthwhile?
Thats just one studio.
Crooked16th
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I'm pretty sure they reiterated yesterday that Crackdown 3 is launching this year.
I recall reading that somewhere. (Probably Reddit)
Edit:
http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/01/09/microsoft-confirms-scalebound-is-cancelled
MS via IGN said:
hasn't 343 specifically said Halo 3 Anniversary is not in the works at all at this point?
No doubt, but it sure as hell isn't gonna sell much Scorpio HW imo. They really need to nail that software lineup come E3.
You say this in this era haha.
PS4 was also $100 cheaper though at launch than the Xbone
Goose_Se7en
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Sure they set up the building blocks in place but it didn't really kick off until PS3. At the onset Sony couldn't count on the 3rd party support that had won them the generation back in the PS2 era.
They dug deep and invested heavily in 1st and 2nd party games. With PS3 Sony needed to dig deep and deliver exclusive after exclusive after exclusive and did just that.
MS needs to do the same thing.
Sure offcourse. But there is a reason digital foundry got so popular suddenly this gen haha.
inpHilltr8r
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Naughty Dog acquisition is in the same time frame. Pretty sure if you actually made a time line you'd see a steady process of growth.
power probably has the least to do with the PS4 being on top this gen. DF is popular on sites like gaf and other enthusiast circles but it has fuck all of an influence on the general audience
You say this in this era haha.
PS4 was the more powerful, cheaper console, which was going to get more thirdparties (Xbox being dead in Japan), more first parties people actually wanted(vs Kinect which noone wanted).
And it didn't have a DRM fiasco.
It wasn't just power.
Digital Foundry is great, but wasn't there always a pretty big market for coverage that focused on comparing different releases of multiplatform games? I definitely went on a few sites last gen when debating whether or not to pick up a game on 360 or PS3.
FinaruDensetsu
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The only issue is it's pretty obvious MS is clamping down on the funding Xbox gets. Unlike the PS3 the Xbox One has no rest of the globe to depend on to recoup the investment. They have the smaller userbase in both US and UK, but at the same time those are the only two countries they are even able to sell to. It's definitely a rock and a hard place position to be in.
MS would pretty much have to do this knowing that in all likelihood they're gonna lose more and more money before they make money.
Precisely.
Ahh okay, neat. Hope it doesn't slip or something else.
Was going off Shinobi's post earlier about it being in a rough state when I assumed it wasn't gonna make it out this year.
Sr. Wiggles
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Lol, I sure as hell will!
Never said it had most to do with it. Only said it plays a factor in it. Outside enthusiast circles also. That whole Xbox One 720p reached all audiences.
Dreamgazer
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Naught Dog was PS2
Japan Studio since PS1
Santa Monica since PS1
Bend Studio since PS1
London Studio since PS1
San Diego since PS2
SCE Cambridge (Guerilla) since PS1
Poly Phony since PS1
I mean that's not even including dead studios...
Last gen was also then gen where people joked about Sony not being able to buy anyone.
onemanasylum
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You say this in this era haha.
Power barely made much difference, are you forgetting x1 was $100 more, kinect and the DRM backlash? The difference in multiplats is not very big, most would not notice it. Power is the least of x1's issues. A more powerful x1 is not going to change anything.
OK, but he clearly means on a large scale, and he is right.
Like the many gamers that bought a PS4 Pro.
You say this in this era haha.
People generally buy the most popular console. We often talk about how it is a marathon and not a sprint. That is incorrect, it is a sprint. It is important to sell as many consoles as possible as early as possible.
Xbox is far from the most popular console, so they have to change that. Ignoring games and releasing a console that is likely going to be more expensive than the competition is not going to work. Their best bet is to lower the price of the S and just deal with the rest of this gen until they can reboot with the next gen.
Goose_Se7en
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So much this. Spencer and Co. are gonna have to spend some serious coin to stay in the industry. I hope MS and the man in the cloud Nadella back up the Xbox division. I hate hyperbole and I'm being just that, hyperbolic I guess, but MS shutting down the coffers for these games is no good.
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Just wondering how much a Scorpio and a Vive VR bundle will cost to a customer....I dont think it's gonna be cheap.
Apparently it's doing pretty well? Despite having a pretty quiet launch with no big games from Sony.
bodes well for the Scorpio
Dural
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Yep, $100 was what killed it out of the gate. Not sure what they were thinking with that, did they not just see what happened with the PS3 in the previous gen?
Crooked16th
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Frank O'Connor did http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224193951&postcount=49
but they could be planning it as a surprise for E3.
eh that sounds pretty conclusive to me
lukeskymac
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I'm willing to bet a large portion of those gamers have a decently beefy PC as well. Those people aren't going to buy Scorpio when they can just keep their PCs.
FinaruDensetsu
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You're mistaken. Sony has done A LOT of dumb moves but the best thing they've ever done was that as soon as they entered the industry after the deal with Nintendo broke down they approached it from a worldwide perspective. They heavily invested in setting up American studios while both Nintendo and MS have generally stuck to their own home countries.
We all acknowledge that the Playstation's reach is global because from day 1 Sony utilized a global strategy.
That took a lot of vision and we saw that strategy pay dividends in salvaging the PS3 and pay off in spades with the PS4.
Best console version of every 3rd party game. Yeah whats been good for the the goose should be good for the gander. Right?
I'm in.
Ummm... someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but assuming Sony never returns to trying to push Cell-like exotic hardware with their consoles and keep going forward with x86 architecture with future PS consoles, backwards compatibility is not costly at all. There won't be any need for any kind of emulation, the future hardware should be able to play everything natively so long as every subsequent console is more powerful than the last.
So you bought a PS4 Pro as well?
You would be correct. Why would someone with a decent gaming PC consider the Scorpio unless you like extra junk laying around for no reason. You get the same software on PC with usually much better performance/bells & whistles.
onemanasylum
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So you got a PS4 and a pro?
Nope. First gen I don't have a interest in Sony. Bought the PS3 last gen because of the BD Player. Ended up loving it.
You say this in this era haha.
At launch, the PS4 was $100 cheaper and didn't have a 24-hour check in DRM debacle shooting itself in the foot.
Oh, and it was more powerful, but honestly, that seemed to get downplayed by the reviewers at the time. No one cared that Ryse was 900p.
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